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This also hit at around the same time: Keith Baker got permission to basically do an official/unofficial Eberron DM's guild product. http://www.dmsguild.com/product/247882/Wayfinders-Guide-to-Eberron-5e Fun thing from the preview: Reinventing the wheel by introducing scene aspects from FATE. (get advantage on a roll by tagging a feature of the location in the description of your action.) unseenlibrarian fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Jul 23, 2018 |
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I'm tentatively interested in a Ravinica setting book. I am glad they are doing something 'new' for 5e, at last. Still not gonna run it in 5e, but I dig nice books full of art and evocative stuff.
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The underpowered/boring classes in 13A are Barbarian, Ranger, Paladin, and Monk. Multiclassing Fighter/Ranger and Paladin/Cleric (IIRC) can add some complexity to those two. They’ve added more character classes since I’ve played 13A, but those are the big ones I remember. F/E: Is Druid still a hot mess, too? Edit: It was Jonathan Tweet, not James Wyatt who co-wrote 13A. BetterWeirdthanDead fucked around with this message at 12:03 on Jul 24, 2018 |
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Jul 23, 2018 19:23
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Wording on that Eberron product makes me think this could be a full retail Campaign setting (or better, adventure) book down the road if it sells well enough.
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Some information on the new setting stuff. http://dnd.wizards.com/articles/news/new-worlds The other setting is Eberron and it's available now in the DM's Guild. (Along with a bunch of other resources) http://www.dmsguild.com/product/247882/Wayfinders-Guide-to-Eberron-5e?src=newest_in_5e Edit: Beaten. MonsterEnvy fucked around with this message at 19:43 on Jul 23, 2018 |
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So far at 5th level it's not so bad, it helps that the dm doesn't roll damage.
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BetterWeirdthanDead posted:Multiclassing Fighter/Ranger and Paladin/Cleric (IIRC) can add some complexity to those two. James Wyatt apparently made the Monk bad on purpose. I played a Monk but respecced to Bard and described everything as drunken boxing and had a much more effective character. The Barbarian’s Rage is severely limited early on, but an easy houserule for it would be 1+CON mod/day at level one. Not sure why you'd intentionally make a bad class. Are the designers one of those people who subscribe to the "No monks, European fantasy only, Final Destination" philosophy? The kind that sees a monk as Friar Tuck, not Bruce Lee. Because these are the same people who ban everything but humans, elves, dwarves, and hobbits(and refuse to call them halflings) because if it isn't Tolkien, it's crap. There should be enough options to cover everything the players might think to do. Whether the DM decides something doesn't fit in their campaign setting should be up to them.
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dwarf74 posted:I'm tentatively interested in a Ravinica setting book. I am glad they are doing something 'new' for 5e, at last. Ravnica is basically the only magic setting I care about. I wonder if 3e contributed to it’s popularity, or if instead they released Ravnica now because it was out around 3e?
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The next MTG set is Ravnica. So that probably factored into it.
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PrinnySquadron posted:The next MTG set is Ravnica. So that probably factored into it. I'm trying not to be too cynical about this, but it's tough. There are probably half a dozen settings I would've much rather spent my money on than a loving MTG tie-in. It feels super marketing-driven and I guess this is just what I have to expect for the world's best-selling RPG. The only thing that doesn't make me immediately dismiss this outright are the reactions ITT about the setting and how cool it could be. I just am not that excited, though. I wanted a Dark Sun or Dragonlance book similar to Curse of Strahd. 
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Finster Dexter posted:I'm trying not to be too cynical about this, but it's tough. There are probably half a dozen settings I would've much rather spent my money on than a loving MTG tie-in. It feels super marketing-driven and I guess this is just what I have to expect for the world's best-selling RPG. Much as players already in the marketplace might have wanted something else, they are probably releasing this book to capture some of the much larger MTG player base and get them to bleed over. Ravnica is pretty much the MTG fan favorite setting and its timed with a return to it, makes pretty perfect sense.
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Ignite Memories posted:again?!? Yes, they are straight up doing a Return to Return to Ravnica.
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PrinnySquadron posted:The next MTG set is Ravnica. So that probably factored into it.
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Finster Dexter posted:I'm trying not to be too cynical about this, but it's tough. There are probably half a dozen settings I would've much rather spent my money on than a loving MTG tie-in. It feels super marketing-driven and I guess this is just what I have to expect for the world's best-selling RPG. Well we just got Eberron right now as well and the article says more setting stuff will be coming by next year.
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Honestly this MTG tie-in is the most excited about 5e I've been in a while. Hoping that Spore Druid is in it so I see if my GM will let me switch over.
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Looking forward to getting a Yu-Gi-Oh tie-in before we get an actual campaign setting.
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I guess I could just google it but maybe post cool pictures of stuff from ravinica in this topic? I can't say I'm particularly excited for an mtg crossover as a setting but cool monsters are cool anyway.
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Jul 23, 2018 20:27
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BetterWeirdthanDead posted:James Wyatt apparently made the Monk bad on purpose. I wouldn't mind hearing why this is the case, if it's literally the case.
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I think they broke Monk with Warforged. The key phrase "wearing armor" is brought up in multiple places, but I don't see where it says Warforged are considered "wearing armor" if they use one of their alternative AC forumlas, they are just considered (armored) for spells and abilities.
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PrinnySquadron posted:Honestly this MTG tie-in is the most excited about 5e I've been in a while. Hoping that Spore Druid is in it so I see if my GM will let me switch over. When that UA came out I immediately thought of Golgari. I assume this will have a number of formalized UA subclasses. Izzet makes a natural case for Alchemist PCs.
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:I guess I could just google it but maybe post cool pictures of stuff from ravinica in this topic? I can't say I'm particularly excited for an mtg crossover as a setting but cool monsters are cool anyway. mango sentinel posted:Brief summary of the settings and guilds, as of the original Guildpact era: I'll post more evocative card art when I'm home.
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:I guess I could just google it but maybe post cool pictures of stuff from ravinica in this topic? I can't say I'm particularly excited for an mtg crossover as a setting but cool monsters are cool anyway.  You could pair this jackass with a guy to give him doublestrike for maximum hilarity. (Honestly, I far prefer Innistrad as far as MtG settings go, but that's treading very close to Ravenloft) e: Also, dick worms  e2: Also there better be rules on how to be an elephant with a hammer 
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I like Ravnica if only because I like the whole global city setting.
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The last time I played MTG was during Return to Ravnica. Definitely doing some kind of Izzet tinker gnome if my group uses that book.
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Pokemon TCG / D&D Crossover when
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Time to play an extremely sneaky elephant rogue.
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Gharbad the Weak posted:I wouldn't mind hearing why this is the case, if it's literally the case. Sounds like nerd hyperbole. They have two designers who put notes on their competing design philosophies through the core rules, might be an exaggeration of something in one of those? This is off topic though. I played a few sessions of Strahd with a bunch of goons and we're having a blast so far, 5e seems very solid.
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Races of Eberron UA https://media.wizards.com/2018/dnd/downloads/723UA_EberronRaces7232018.pdf I assume they are also in the campaign guide.
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Campaign guide is ... okay. It's weird to re-use Pathfinder art. It has all that dungeonpunk quality to it which seems jarring. Not much mechanics, mostly just fluff. It's good reading, but like.. I'm not sure how much of it is game-able. There's a one-page adventure essentially in the back, and a few tables (2d20...) like you might expect from a DIY d&d product... There's some cool stuff about Dragonmarks. I guess you could use the city here. There are some good pages on how to do a pulp adventure, shades of grey, etc. which is way more advise on roleplaying than WotC usually gives. This may as well be an official product, right? It doesn't get a hardcover, but the M:tG setting does? Alright? E: If you like Eberron you should get it, but you probably know everything it's talking about anyway. With so little actual mechanics, you can just use the fluff that you already have. The mechanics come from the new races & dragonmarks mostly, but they are not all that spicy. If you don't like Eberron and wanted to maybe have a cool city, just get Vornheim or something. I think on second look there is enough to start a game here, but the "expanded reading" list just tells you to go read a bunch of 3.5 books and novels. Things are very brief here for some vast swathes of land that are not much more interesting than what you could make up yourself. Firstborn fucked around with this message at 23:04 on Jul 23, 2018 |
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Firstborn posted:Campaign guide is ... okay. It's weird to re-use Pathfinder art. It has all that dungeonpunk quality to it which seems jarring. Not much mechanics, mostly just fluff. It's good reading, but like.. I'm not sure how much of it is game-able. Appearntly it's partially play test stuff. They are hoping for feedback on how to refine the stuff. Then I assume they will release a complete book containing more the world and stuff like the artificer. Then hopefully they grant a discount to those who own this version. Still even on it's own it's pretty cool.
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Nevermind my last comment. It appears the Wayfinders guide is going to be a living document. https://twitter.com/mikemearls/status/1021493084536881159 Both the Pdf and beyond version getting updates.
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MonsterEnvy posted:Both the Pdf and beyond version getting updates. I mean, good to know its not done but they should probably finish everything then release it and solicit feedback. Also where do you submit feedback anyway? EDIT: Im genuinely shocked that the warforged and changling both have good racial features that are fun to play, I'll assume they are going to get nerfed like crazy. kingcom fucked around with this message at 01:59 on Jul 24, 2018 |
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I'm one step closer to realizing my AL dream of Blasto the Warforged Warlock and that's OK in my book. Still weird that they didn't make a bigger deal about this being basically an early access purchase.
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kingcom posted:I mean, good to know its not done but they should probably finish everything then release it and solicit feedback. Also where do you submit feedback anyway? Don't know I have not checked on that stuff yet. I have not even finished reading through the pdf.
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MonsterEnvy posted:Don't know I have not checked on that stuff yet. I have not even finished reading through the pdf. I was just going off the racial stuff you linked, and its for the most part really good but now people are complaining that warforged can get plate armour for free as a racial which means the good design is going to get taken away im sure
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kingcom posted:I was just going off the racial stuff you linked, and its for the most part really good but now people are complaining that warforged can get plate armour for free as a racial which means the good design is going to get taken away im sure Plate armor for free as a racial... at level one. Eventually it scales up past even +3 plate armor because it scales with your proficiency bonus, and you're not reliant on the DM's charity (which is a big deal in this edition).
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Magic items being largely/completely in the DM's hands is a good thing. Specific "builds" of magic items are really goddamn boring when it comes to D&D.
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Arivia posted:Magic items being largely/completely in the DM's hands is a good thing. Specific "builds" of magic items are really goddamn boring when it comes to D&D. I'd be totally fine with this logic except for the fact that martial characters get owned hard by it. There are an incredible amount of monsters who take half damage from all nonmagical weapons. We went through the entirety of Princes of the Apocalypse and our bow fighter did not get a magic bow. Thank god she picked Arcane Archer.
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The best part of the Ravinca setting is that I could GM a campaign and say that Jace is dead. So dead. So so so so so dead. Cut into a thousand pieces, those pieces caught fire, and then Bolas swept them into a vortex dead. No, you can't bring him back. Garruk is your lord now.
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