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Devor posted:Mandatory minimum for drug offense against a minority: my hands are tied mandatory minimums aren't necessarily a bad thing. they're good in cases where local authorities have a history of undersentencing people for certain crimes for example, if local prosecutors and judges repeatedly let a prominent local rancher off with wrist-slaps despite a decades-long crime spree the guy loving sandpapered his grandkid's skin off and got off with "pretrial diversion". he's been sending death threats to government agents since the 80s. He's been involved in obstructing federal agents, kicking people off of public land, illegal hunting, forget, and more, and I'm pretty sure the arson stuff is the first time they'd ever spent more than a few days in jail
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Just remember to wear a cowboy hat when you commit your crimes.
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e: wrong thread arsonists are bad and should be punished, imo
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lol at the law n order cucks in the original bundy/malheur thread certain the feds were playing 11th dimensional chess and not smug, incompetent morons who've lost whatever edge they ever had because they spent the last decade+ gangstalking and entrapping mentally ill muslim teens you utter rubes you loving morons
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Main Paineframe posted:mandatory minimums aren't necessarily a bad thing. they're good in cases where local authorities have a history of undersentencing people for certain crimes best part is that even ignoring all this, these fuckheads intentionally set fires during fire season in southern oregon. i live in southern oregon. there's a fire not even 10 miles from me right now that has killed two people and forced a shitload of evacuations. intentionally lighting a forest on fire during fire season here is one of the shittiest fuckin things a human being can even do.
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1994 Toyota Celica posted:lol at the law n order cucks in the original bundy/malheur thread certain the feds were playing 11th dimensional chess and not smug, incompetent morons who've lost whatever edge they ever had because they spent the last decade+ gangstalking and entrapping mentally ill muslim teens yeah pretty much but that was in the time before trump so it was much easier to believe things weren't so incredibly stupid at every single level
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All we can hope is that ordinary people recognize the injustice here, because the chud base is lapping this poo poo up.
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1994 Toyota Celica posted:lol at the law n order cucks in the original bundy/malheur thread certain the feds were playing 11th dimensional chess and not smug, incompetent morons who've lost whatever edge they ever had because they spent the last decade+ gangstalking and entrapping mentally ill muslim teens it really is impressive how badly the FBI managed to gently caress it up i still can't believe they let these guys run around racking up crimes for months and still managed to completely botch the prosecution they really were too used to judges letting them get away with whatever they wanted
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Main Paineframe posted:it really is impressive how badly the FBI managed to gently caress it up Well, in one case the FBI hosed up (the brady violations). In some of the cases, jury nullification is the culprit because they're white sovcits.
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Is it seriously too much to expect the FBI to if not competently prosecute an extremely easy case, then to rig it so they win anyway, or at least just kill everyone before trial? What do they even do all day?
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i'm hoping they just go in guns blazing next time something like this happens. no need for those idiots in arizona because lol its arizona in summer
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Jose posted:i'm hoping they just go in guns blazing next time something like this happens. no need for those idiots in arizona because lol its arizona in summer sorry to burst your bubble, but the president of the United States is donald trump
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Jose posted:i'm hoping they just go in guns blazing next time something like this happens. no need for those idiots in arizona because lol its arizona in summer
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Main Paineframe posted:they really were too used to judges letting them get away with whatever they wanted This applies to federal prosecutors too. Can't recall where it was from, but I either heard a legal expert being interviewed or read an article with the same saying that since assistant US attorneys have come to rely on strong-arming defendants into accepting plea bargains so frequently that they are horribly out of practice when they actually have to take a case to trial.
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Hey, remember these guys? https://twitter.com/jjmacnab/status/1021250826734456832 They're mildly upset. https://twitter.com/jjmacnab/status/1021472491976310785 So are their fans. https://twitter.com/jjmacnab/status/1021474854589976576 "Fans." https://twitter.com/jjmacnab/status/1021485089409183747 "Yes we are, how you say, "fans"' https://twitter.com/jjmacnab/status/1021487080168476672 e: lol it keeps getting better https://twitter.com/jjmacnab/status/1021489288389840896 McGlockenshire has issued a correction as of 21:18 on Jul 23, 2018 |
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"He is the Rosa Parks of child trafficking"
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1994 Toyota Celica posted:lol at the law n order cucks in the original bundy/malheur thread certain the feds were playing 11th dimensional chess and not smug, incompetent morons who've lost whatever edge they ever had because they spent the last decade+ gangstalking and entrapping mentally ill muslim teens That self soothing line is used by anxious libs in any circumstance where failure is too horrifying
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Ammon Bundy, a constitutional rights defender to his allies and a domestic terrorist to his critics, spoke in Smithfield, Utah, on Wednesday and claimed that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, of which he is a devout member, has been infiltrated by socialists, globalists and environmentalists.quote:He claimed at Smithfield, which is in northern Utah near the Idaho border, that the federal government’s prosecution of him and his supporters following confrontations in Nevada and Oregon is really a “battle of high priests” of the LDS church. He said his father, himself and his attorney are all high priests in the church. But so are the lead U.S. attorney prosecuting his family, the chief judge in Oregon and former Nevada Sen. Harry Reid. quote:Bundy went on to explain his view that events detailed in the Book of Mormon and the Bible have been repeating themselves over the past several years in his confrontations with the federal government.
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owning the libs by trashing the mormon church
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Jul 24, 2018 03:57
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thank Christ our nutjobs are so dumb
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Would really like to see these fuckwits get Ruby Ridged.
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It’s hilarious that dude’s bond was 500$.
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Getting excommunicated to own the libs
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Casimir Radon posted:Getting excommunicated to own the libs As a socialist, globalist, and environmentalist Mormon, I can only dream.
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remember when that one fed insisted that the only reason that Bundy was in trouble was that the BLM were discriminating against Mormons
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Main Paineframe posted:remember when that one fed insisted that the only reason that Bundy was in trouble was that the BLM were discriminating against Mormons  It's a tenant of Mormonism to graze our cows for free on government land, drive our 4-wheelers on archeaological sites, and point guns at federal employees. Just leave us alone
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Casimir Radon posted:
You forgot “abuse children”.
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https://twitter.com/conradjwilson/status/1022197854499004416 astarita should almost certainly be convicted, but he also owns
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Rip all their cowboy hats off and stomp on them.
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Ryan Payne gets at least something: https://twitter.com/jjmacnab/status/1031954956562165760
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lmao, just over three years for a prolonged armed standoff with federal authorities meanwhile, a left-wing radical got six years for trying to blow up a Confederate statue https://mobile.twitter.com/jjmacnab/status/1031913776344457217
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TotalLossBrain posted:Ryan Payne gets at least something: Seems to have been taken down
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Huh, weird. Ryan Payne got 36 months. That's it.
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TotalLossBrain posted:Huh, weird. Ryan Payne got 36 months. That's it.
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Don't let american prison sentences distort reality. It's not fair in the large picture of things compared to some other offenders, but literally nobody who goes to federal prison for 36 months will think that he got off easy, and that he will do it again because he'll only get another 36 months. Certainty of punishment plays a large role in effective criminal justice, but severity of punishment doesn't really. There are plenty of countries where 36 months is the extreme high end of sentencing scale for any crime. He definitely doesn't think he got off easy, or that he won. Vahakyla has issued a correction as of 05:50 on Aug 23, 2018 |
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Uh, he's a militia dipshit. He thinks he's a martyr right now.
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Vahakyla posted:Don't let american prison sentences distort reality. It's not fair in the large picture of things compared to some other offenders, but literally nobody who goes to federal prison for 36 months will think that he got off easy, and that he will do it again because he'll only get another 36 months. Certainty of punishment plays a large role in effective criminal justice, but severity of punishment doesn't really. There are plenty of countries where 36 months is the extreme high end of sentencing scale for any crime. he'll be a free man in March or April of next year the time he's spent in custody awaiting his two trials is being counted toward his sentence we also know that he thinks he got off easy and will do it again. after the Nevada trial, they let him out for a bit to go visit his family over the holidays, under the condition that he only goes to the area where his family lives and doesn't have any contact with the other Bundy occupiers. instead, he went to the Bundy ranch to party with Ammon and Ritzheimer (both of whom were released under similar conditions), and they all posted pictures on facebook. the judge specifically cited that blatant violation of his release order during sentencing as a sign that he hasn't actually learned his lesson yet
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Vahakyla posted:Don't let american prison sentences distort reality. It's not fair in the large picture of things compared to some other offenders, but literally nobody who goes to federal prison for 36 months will think that he got off easy, and that he will do it again because he'll only get another 36 months. Certainty of punishment plays a large role in effective criminal justice, but severity of punishment doesn't really. There are plenty of countries where 36 months is the extreme high end of sentencing scale for any crime. True. Casimir Radon posted:Uh, he's a militia dipshit. He thinks he's a martyr right now. Also true! There is an argument to be made for incapacitation here, not just deterrence.
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