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Lactose Is Wack posted:He is advocating replacing a publicly good with a private one, how are these even remotely the same? He isn't advocating Amazon replace libraries with free amazon bookstores. that dude knew a tiny fact and felt super smart about it, plz don't deflate him with your logic and context
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Spatial posted:lmfao Is this a smart home thing? Why would you invite a cash obsessed amoral HAL into your home?
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Jul 25, 2018 16:31
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Outrail posted:Is this a smart home thing? People are really lazy and really, really loving stupid
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Jul 25, 2018 17:21
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amazon should replace my electricity to save taxpayers money
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Jul 25, 2018 17:25
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Outrail posted:Is this a smart home thing? You can turn your lights off... from around the globe!
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quote:The latest example of this is a survey suggesting that all 43 of the affordable houses in London aren't actually houses, but rather boats. You should probably check and make sure your house is not actually a boat before reporting it as a house
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Jul 25, 2018 18:01
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Yes I know he means houseboats shut up
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quote:These regulations don't just affect the type of squalid accommodation that they were designed to outlaw. A recent project to build 'micro-flats' worth up to £231,000 required the intervention of the London Mayor to exempt it from certain regulations. Developments like these might be the future for young people like me struggling to get onto the housing market, but this kind of ad-hoc policymaking is no way to run a country. Wholesale change is needed. I smugly look down on houseboats but eagerly want to pay enormous amounts of money for a tiny box branded as trendy, I am a smart and clever boy.
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Jul 25, 2018 18:03
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ate all the Oreos posted:You can turn your lights off... Big deal, my electric company can do that without a fancy gadget.
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Jul 25, 2018 18:23
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"I learned a little song, Dave. Would you like to hear it? You may skip ad in 5,4,3..."
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Jul 25, 2018 18:36
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Outrail posted:Big deal, my electric company can do that without a fancy gadget. Haha, reminds me of when the Social Democrats sold off control of our national energy grid to Goldman Sachs so they could extract profits through notorious tax shelter Luxembourg, and their immediate reaction to being warned about raising energy prices was almost literally, "Nice infrastructure you've got there. Would be a shame if anything like frequent outages happened to it." The company used to be called DONG and the Minister responsible for the sale immediately quit politics to work for McKinsey, the very same company that had advised the government on the deal. i wonder what necklacing smells like haha im just curious for laughs haha i would like to smell it
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SplitSoul posted:Haha, reminds me of when the Social Democrats sold off control of our national energy grid to Goldman Sachs so they could extract profits through notorious tax shelter Luxembourg, and their immediate reaction to being warned about raising energy prices was almost literally, "Nice infrastructure you've got there. Would be a shame if anything like frequent outages happened to it." The company used to be called DONG and the Minister responsible for the sale immediately quit politics to work for McKinsey, the very same company that had advised the government on the deal. I live in a place where everyone shrugged their shoulders when the government sold the utilities off, and prices have risen 600-800% in about 15 years. But now everyone is making GBS threads their pants because the new government put a 5% tax on it. A pic went viral a little while ago of a dude getting charged an UNACCEPTABLE $4 of tax on his utility bill, but then totally glosses over the $80 "delivery" fee.
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Jul 25, 2018 19:10
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Outrail posted:Is this a smart home thing?
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Fashionable Jorts posted:I live in a place where everyone shrugged their shoulders when the government sold the utilities off, and prices have risen 600-800% in about 15 years. But now everyone is making GBS threads their pants because the new government put a 5% tax on it. The gently caress. Has anyone asked them to justify the delivery? Does a man in a funny hat personally deliver baskets of electrons like an old timey milkman?
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Spatial posted:Gotta be part of the future! The future where your wifi-enabled door handle stops working because of a botched over-the-air update Purchase the 'midnight til dawn' dlc for after hours access to your own property.
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SplitSoul posted:Haha, reminds me of when the Social Democrats sold off control of our national energy grid to Goldman Sachs so they could extract profits through notorious tax shelter Luxembourg, and their immediate reaction to being warned about raising energy prices was almost literally, "Nice infrastructure you've got there. Would be a shame if anything like frequent outages happened to it." The company used to be called DONG and the Minister responsible for the sale immediately quit politics to work for McKinsey, the very same company that had advised the government on the deal. I can't find it now but someone wrote a great article about how a bank (JP Morgan I think?) bought some nasty old coal power plants so they could exploit how the rules governing the grid worked. Like one of the things they did was figure out that the algorithm that determined who to buy power from wouldn't check prices correctly if the block of time crossed midnight so they'd bid -$1 per megawatt or something like that to guarantee they won the bid for 11 PM and then lock in the next three hours (because it's allocated in blocks like that, since generators need time to spool up and down), and charge $999 for the other two hours. So not only were they exploiting the system, they were doing it with ancient, dirty coal plants 
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ate all the Oreos posted:I can't find it now but someone wrote a great article about how a bank (JP Morgan I think?) bought some nasty old coal power plants so they could exploit how the rules governing the grid worked. Like one of the things they did was figure out that the algorithm that determined who to buy power from wouldn't check prices correctly if the block of time crossed midnight so they'd bid -$1 per megawatt or something like that to guarantee they won the bid for 11 PM and then lock in the next three hours (because it's allocated in blocks like that, since generators need time to spool up and down), and charge $999 for the other two hours. See in a just world the person(s) responsible for this would be drug into the street and shot.
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Mizuti posted:Seen outside an Apple store after Steve Jobs died: I'm pretty sure this is from the public funeral for the woman who was run over by the nazi. I remember it being used in this articles.
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Play posted:I'm pretty sure this is from the public funeral for the woman who was run over by the nazi. I remember it being used in this articles. Narrator: It was not.
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Play posted:I'm pretty sure this is from the public funeral for the woman who was run over by the nazi. I remember it being used in this articles. He’s crying about how dumb you are
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ate all the Oreos posted:I can't find it now but someone wrote a great article about how a bank (JP Morgan I think?) bought some nasty old coal power plants so they could exploit how the rules governing the grid worked. Like one of the things they did was figure out that the algorithm that determined who to buy power from wouldn't check prices correctly if the block of time crossed midnight so they'd bid -$1 per megawatt or something like that to guarantee they won the bid for 11 PM and then lock in the next three hours (because it's allocated in blocks like that, since generators need time to spool up and down), and charge $999 for the other two hours. Found it: https://dealbreaker.com/2013/07/electricity-market-rules-were-not-a-worthy-opponent-for-jpmorgans-brainpower/ quote:FERC built a terrible box, and the box had some buttons that were labeled “push here for money,” and JPMorgan pushed them and got money. You can understand the category mistake very easily:
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Outrail posted:The gently caress. Hahahahaha gently caress no. Its business, they do what they want. You can use zero natural gas in a month (like, you can literally shut off the input valve to your house so no natural gas is capable of reaching you), and you can still get hit with a $40 delivery fee. But the guys who deregulated our utilities gave everyone a $300 check, so thats more than enough to buy a lifetime of loyalty.
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In my attempt to find the one that went viral earlier this month, I found a great example. $14.39 in electricity. $36.42 in delivery. But no, deregulating our utilities will save the consumer money! Competition is good for everyone!
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Fashionable Jorts posted:In my attempt to find the one that went viral earlier this month, I found a great example. still better than Direct Energy
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Jul 25, 2018 19:51
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TOS by Sylvia Plath
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Remember when Enron caused rolling black outs in California because they were exploiting government loopholes? https://www.theguardian.com/business/2005/feb/05/enron.usnews
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Fashionable Jorts posted:In my attempt to find the one that went viral earlier this month, I found a great example. IIRC the grid itself does tend to be the most expensive component of the system but I'm pretty sure it's not over twice as loving much
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Colin Ward made the argument that slums are great in places that are hosed over in housing, but that ultimately they aren't ideal, and people should have SAFE housing. These guys just ignore that part entirely to dunk on housing standards in the developed world. Amazing.
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ate all the Oreos posted:IIRC the grid itself does tend to be the most expensive component of the system but I'm pretty sure it's not over twice as loving much Oh for sure it's expensive to run an electrical grid. It's just funny that these fees only started to exist when the utilities were deregulated but most people don't seem to care. We also have some of the most expensive cell phone coverage in the first world, despite most of the infrastructure being originally built using taxpayer money.
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Fashionable Jorts posted:In my attempt to find the one that went viral earlier this month, I found a great example. The total works out to 10 cents a kilowatt/hr. which is a fairly unremarkable, if not cheap, price for electricity  The listed 2 cents per kilowatt/hr. is pretty much unheard of, so is the criticism that the bill's presented deceptively?
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Split Pea Superman posted:I just love licking the taint of deregulated utilities.
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Split Pea Superman posted:The total works out to 10 cents a kilowatt/hr. which is a fairly unremarkable, if not cheap, price for electricity Fashionable Jorts posted:
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Fashionable Jorts posted:We also have some of the most expensive cell phone coverage in the first world, despite most of the infrastructure being originally built using taxpayer money. If weren't already aware, you should check out  cellphone rates.Canadian Cellular networks: Built by Crown Corporations, Privatized, now with the most expensive cell phone plans in the Western World.
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They used 577 kilowatt hours. No one sells electricity at the 2 cents a kilowatt hour they've been charged in the line item, but the total bill works out to 10-11 cents a kilowatt hour, which is a fairly standard price.
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