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Rated PG-34 posted:idk I think zuccboi will be a little less smug for at least a few days this is the closest he's gotten to cumming in years he's pretty happy about that
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an actual dog posted:lol if you think that facebook's stock going down means that anything is changing yeah, cramer's honking the "buy facebook stock" horn instead of the "sell facebook stock" awooga
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# ? Jul 27, 2018 16:10 |
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look at this prosperity bible undertaker looking motherfucker
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# ? Jul 27, 2018 16:11 |
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That article has made me physically ill and the only cure is socialized medicine.
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# ? Jul 27, 2018 16:14 |
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an actual dog posted:lol if you think that facebook's stock going down means that anything is changing it simply means everything is proceeding entirely according to the plan
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# ? Jul 27, 2018 16:14 |
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lollontee posted:it simply means everything is proceeding entirely according to the plan lol if you think there's a plan
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# ? Jul 27, 2018 16:15 |
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:look at this prosperity bible undertaker looking motherfucker lmao his name is literally John Calvin Thomas
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# ? Jul 27, 2018 16:15 |
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For the current generation, it appears one thing is more seductive than sex — and that's socialism.
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# ? Jul 27, 2018 16:16 |
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Socialist millenials are destroying the loving industry
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# ? Jul 27, 2018 16:16 |
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definitely does a poo poo load of meth with a rentboy in a dingy motel
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# ? Jul 27, 2018 16:19 |
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an actual dog posted:lol if you think there's a plan i'm starting to think you're planning on laughing on contiously
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# ? Jul 27, 2018 16:21 |
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per wikipedia he was VP of Moral Majority for a while
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# ? Jul 27, 2018 16:21 |
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that guy has literally murdered at least three prostitutes
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# ? Jul 27, 2018 16:22 |
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my man looks like a Mike Judge drawing that some arcane ritual turned into a real person
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# ? Jul 27, 2018 16:23 |
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GalacticAcid posted:per wikipedia he was VP of Moral Majority for a while we must stop these radical religious terrorists from infiltrating america and defend our homosexuals. also gays are physically, emotionally and spiritually bad for our country
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Pablo Nergigante posted:Socialist adults under 30 are destroying the loving industry
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# ? Jul 27, 2018 17:22 |
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rudatron posted:No, I think that would be a terrible idea, and its precisely the fact that it is a terrible idea, that is itself a demonstration of the weakness of the left. There are plenty of right wing militias right now, but they can get away with it because they have institutional support, ie, they're in a position of strength. The militias as they are now are basically hobby clubs. They don't have any power as militias- they don't control territory and, in the rare instances where their members are influential in local politics, it's not because of their arms. There are actually a handful of leftist gun clubs too. It doesn't mean much. If these groups were to try to seize power even in a local setting they wouldn't last very long. A couple years back those idiots occupied that national park in Oregon thinking local people would support them. The locals found them, at best, a nuisance. The thing lasted a month and now they're all in jail, except for the one guy who got himself killed. The leftist equivalent of this I guess would be Che Guevara and his focoismo theory, which is romantic nonsense that just gets people killed. Generally in revolutionary situations, civilians arm themselves but the ultimate survival of the revolt depends on mass defections from the existing military and police forces. And before that happens there's a long period of unrest, repression, agitation, etc. As much as Americans complain, they are very, very far from the kind of conditions that produce such upheavals. At the moment I'm happy that public figures can openly advocate universal healthcare and criticize Henry Kissinger; only a few years ago they would have been shouted down or ignored. No, this doesn't confront the real powers in society but no political movement is capable of doing that, only a spiritual one.
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# ? Jul 27, 2018 17:28 |
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Confounding Factor posted:The leftist equivalent of this I guess would be Che Guevara and his focoismo theory, which is romantic nonsense that just gets people killed. yeah that definitely hasnt worked before,
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# ? Jul 27, 2018 17:33 |
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:I hang out with my neighbors I moved to a new neighborhood last year. I have talked to 4 of my neighbors and 2 of them only because I walked over to their house to introduce myself and my family. Suburbs are loving terrible.
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# ? Jul 27, 2018 17:49 |
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:yeah that definitely hasnt worked before, It failed on all of South America :/. Same with Marighella's urban guerrila thesis
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# ? Jul 27, 2018 17:52 |
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I'm sorry, what? What do you mean by "Spiritual"? I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.
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# ? Jul 27, 2018 17:57 |
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:yeah that definitely hasnt worked before, Congo and Bolivia would like a word
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# ? Jul 27, 2018 18:20 |
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Infernot posted:Congo and Bolivia would like a word didn't seem to stick now did it
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# ? Jul 27, 2018 18:26 |
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rudatron posted:I'm sorry, what? What do you mean by "Spiritual"? I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. When you say, "Confronting the real powers in society," I assume you mean the networks of capitalists, financiers, etc. who pull the strings in our society. I would just say, to put it bluntly, that our entire political system is controlled by demons, in the literal sense. Attempting to address the evils with mere force of arms and ideology, by removing the human masters, is just sweeping and tidying the house for the bodiless ones. Marx likens capital to something akin to a Frankenstein monster, that takes a life of its own and starts acting independently of its creators (capitalists). Engels mentions the possibility of capitalism dispensing with capitalists entirely and replacing them with salaried bureaucrats- something which was fulfilled in the Soviet Union. So these materialists recognize something inhuman and autonomous in what is evidently inanimate and mindless. They account for this with impersonal social forces, as their historical determinism demands- a certain social relationship, and not any particular group of people, at the root of social evil. But as a Christian, with my old horror vacui, there is no such impersonal force without something personal behind it. And that goes a lot further toward explaining how men like Stalin and Beria could not only exist but rise to the very top in a society ostensibly committed to radical equality and the removal of all oppressors.
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Karl Barks posted:didn't seem to stick now did it Yeah that's my point, Che's focoismo theory got him killed and failed miserably in the Congo and Bolivia.
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# ? Jul 27, 2018 19:56 |
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ugh i can't tell who's being ironic anymore
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# ? Jul 27, 2018 19:57 |
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1 in 4 republicans approve of socialism
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# ? Jul 27, 2018 20:39 |
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yeah focoism/peoples war has never worked before if you ignore all of the times it has worked
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# ? Jul 27, 2018 20:44 |
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Infernot posted:Congo and Bolivia would like a word not saying it always worked but it did work in Cuba (from which the entire theory was derived from) and Nicaragua. Obviously not going to work in every situation, but blowing it off as "romantic nonsense" is ignoring history.
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lollontee posted:i'm starting to think you're planning on laughing on contiously lol if you think I have a plan
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# ? Jul 27, 2018 20:49 |
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I haven't made a prediction since november 2016
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# ? Jul 27, 2018 20:50 |
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:not saying it always worked but it did work in Cuba (from which the entire theory was derived from) and Nicaragua. Obviously not going to work in every situation. it's more or less what also occured in china, vietnam, laos, cambodia, etc it's also very disingenuous to compare a bunch of larping americans in a public park in Oregon to what Che and Fidel and co. did in Cuba
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tadashi posted:I moved to a new neighborhood last year. I have talked to 4 of my neighbors and 2 of them only because I walked over to their house to introduce myself and my family. Suburbs are loving terrible. I really locked out tbqh I think
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Postoyevsky posted:yeah focoism/peoples war has never worked before if you ignore all of the times it has worked Postoyevsky posted:it's more or less what also occured in china, vietnam, laos, cambodia, etc so i'm not an expert on this stuff but i thought che's focoism and mao's protracted people's war theory were two different strategies for fighting colonial powers, and the countries you listed were all examples of the latter?
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# ? Jul 27, 2018 21:03 |
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:not saying it always worked but it did work in Cuba (from which the entire theory was derived from) and Nicaragua. Obviously not going to work in every situation, but blowing it off as "romantic nonsense" is ignoring history. ive heard it argued that the revolution in cuba was a lot broader than che portrayed it as
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# ? Jul 27, 2018 21:06 |
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This is off-topic but this LRB essay on the anti-colonial movement in Angola, "Apartheid's Last Stand", includes a long segment on Cuba's intervention. it's very good.
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# ? Jul 27, 2018 21:08 |
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alsothere posted:so i'm not an expert on this stuff but i thought che's focoism and mao's protracted people's war theory were two different strategies for fighting colonial powers, and the countries you listed were all examples of the latter? they are different strategies but from the same school of thought
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# ? Jul 27, 2018 21:09 |
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https://twitter.com/futb0livariano/status/1022891789244657665
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# ? Jul 27, 2018 21:15 |
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I think the reason that Che failed in both Bolivia and the Congo is he didn't understand that revolution is, at least a little, about the spectacle. He was such a committed revolutionary that he didn't understand that other people need to be motivated to join the revolution, he figured everyone could see the writing on the wall as he did. That was a major difference between Bolivia and Cuba, in that Castro is a phenomenal showman. Castro was already pretty famous in Cuba before he came over on the Granma after his trial after attacking the Moncada barracks, and Guevara tried to conceal his presence in Bolivia, when he could have been the light that drew the revolutionaries to him like moths. What's more, Guevara was an advocate of attacking random patrols, whereas Castro was in favour of attacking barracks in the Sierra Mastre, because he knew that it would have a tremendous effect, that neither the government nor the random peasants could deny. That's also part of the failure of Carlos Marighella's urban guerrilla. The advantage to building up in lesser populated areas is that you can have some degree of above-ground presence. How did the Red Army Faction recruit? Although their actions had some spectacle, similar to the Tupamaros, they didn't have any established safe areas, where they could retreat to under pressure, defend with some success, and then hit some other area. As well, how could the average revolutionary in Germany, for example, try to join the Red Army Faction? That's why their history consists of multiple affinity groups, with one surfacing years after the last was totally dismantled by the state apparatus.
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Postoyevsky posted:they are different strategies but from the same school of thought Foco puts too much emphasis on the guerilla as a vanguard of popular discontent, and ends up falling back on the propaganda of the deed idea. Mao's Peoples' War is about building up an entire state in parallel to the ruling power, which incorporates rural people as revolutionary agents in their own right. You build up enough support in the countryside that you can eventually isolate urban centers and military outposts, then overwhelm them when the numbers are on your side.
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