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Kith posted:Wow, that model, uh... doesn't look very much like the art. Like, at all. Model!Whitemane lost a few pounds in prep for the spotlight, I see. Her arms are skinnier than Kel'Thuzad's and he's a literal skeleton.
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Yeah while I find her mechanics fun looking, her model is a disappointment after that art.
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Jul 27, 2018 20:16
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like 100% of whether whitemane’s good or not comes down to the numbers on her abilities, like can she pump out damage fast enough to keep people alive? I can see spamming out Plea to spread Zeal and then whacking people with searing lash and inquisition to get a malf-style top-off but it’ll depend on the numbers being there and her not going oom
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Jul 27, 2018 20:26
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The need to break muradin. Being so well rounded makes him boring
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^^ ban him  Primetime posted:He has the blades of the templar at 16 now. It's basically nexus blades but gives 30% attack speed instead of damage, which may be a buff given how his passive works? Hrm, I must have missed that, but it means another 16 talent can't be picked. Does Blizzard typically do re-works like this (not redesigns like Jimmy) without a heads up in advance? Seems strange that this wouldn't be on PTR for a week or two before implementation.
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Kith posted:That said, the Mage'jin main I pulled replays from is Master in HL. Not only does he know what he's talking about, but his opponents know what they're doing - it's not just a question of "aim better". In his words: "It's better to go for a non-optimal poke for more damage on Arcanite than try for the damage bonus of Wrong Place and gently caress up your positioning. Twin Cleave is for poke and zoning. If you want to blow someone up, use Guillo." For what it's worth, Wrong Place is by far the most picked talent in Masters league. I'm not in masters but I don't find it to be particularly hard to land without getting out of position, especially when your teammate sets you up with a bit of CC. Constantly trying to keep an 8 second buff up for your shorter range AA seems like a much more difficult task.
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Jul 27, 2018 20:38
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I mean Kharazim is a Damage/Healer hybrid kind of dude and he actually works pretty well as a solo, even when taking SSS.
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Obviously they need to add that talent from WoW where you can channel Penance on an ally to heal them directly for you weenies who are afraid to play a disc priest.
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Jul 27, 2018 21:07
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Why is one of her abilities literally Mind Flay but not called that. I guess now we can't have a Shadow Priest with Mind Flay.
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SirSamVimes posted:Obviously they need to add that talent from WoW where you can channel Penance on an ally to heal them directly for you weenies who are afraid to play a disc priest. They basically showed that with Inquisition in the spotlight
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Wrong Place also works on structures, mercs, and monsters. I like taking it when the enemy doesn't have heavily armored heroes.
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bamhand posted:Why is one of her abilities literally Mind Flay but not called that. I guess now we can't have a Shadow Priest with Mind Flay. It's not mind flay it's Penance. You know, the Disc Priest spell.
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This was definitely a bottom-up design. Somebody discovered that the disc priest shell basically designs itself and then realized that they had no character to pin it to. Because, y'know, top-down Whitemane is known for precisely three things: Putting the whole group in un-breakable sleep, "Arise, my champion!", and the hat.
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It's also possible that they connected the dots of "spec named Discipline" and "priestess who looks like a dominatrix"
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SirSamVimes posted:It's not mind flay it's Penance. You know, the Disc Priest spell. Can't you channel Penance on allies and it doesn't slow? Inquisition is enemies only. 3 second channel for damage with a slow attached is literally mind flay.
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Jul 27, 2018 21:27
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She also casts Power Word: Shield during the fight, which is another We also don't know her whole talent set, the sleep could be hiding out as an extra ability or something.
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bamhand posted:Can't you channel Penance on allies and it doesn't slow? Inquisition is enemies only. 3 second channel for damage with a slow attached is literally mind flay. Didn't they make it foe only unless you talent into being able to cast it on an ally? edit this may have only occurred in my head
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bamhand posted:Can't you channel Penance on allies and it doesn't slow? Inquisition is enemies only. 3 second channel for damage with a slow attached is literally mind flay. Watch the entire highlight. There is an entire section dedicated to a level 1 talent that lets you channel Inquisition on allies to heal them.
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It would be kind of hard to give her a Mass Sleep as an ult when that’s literally Deckard’s ult
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Orange Crush Rush posted:It would be kind of hard to give her a Mass Sleep as an ult when that’s literally Deckard’s ult One that lets her burst heal others during the sleep would be very problematic, too.
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SirSamVimes posted:Didn't they make it foe only unless you talent into being able to cast it on an ally? That is correct, at least in Legion.
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Did you know that 4chan's /vg/ video games board has a HOTS chat channel?  Don't go there.
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What's it named, so I can totally not go there?
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Jul 27, 2018 21:44
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No Wave posted:What's it named, so I can not go there? 4Chan
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The HOTS team was absolutely right to not build a kit themed around an era of WoW where mechanics in a boss fight meant that sometimes they would cast Frostbolt instead of Auto Attacking.
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Mists of Pandaria had good boss design though. 
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bio347 posted:Because, y'know, top-down Whitemane is known for precisely three things: Putting the whole group in un-breakable sleep, "Arise, my champion!", and the hat. The sleep and rez would be awful for Heroes of the Storm, and the hat has no mechanics of which to speak. And no, no one in this game is ever getting a mass rez.
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If the hat does not appear as a talent at the very least I will have no interest in purchasing the hero until my very last ones. Hot take: Abathur Whitemane skin as a simultaneous release with the hero, where you put the chapeau on your teamates
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Her Thighness looks like a lot of fun for my level of play so I'm excited. Plus I like her model, but I'm all about that Gothic/thigh showing/running mascara look. It's a very niche attraction, I know.
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The rich anime girl laugh during that beam move is sick.
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i'm a little disappointed they still didnt add a priest analogue
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Relin posted:i'm a little disappointed they still didnt add a priest analogue You mean... Aside from the discipline spec priest that just got announced?
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Spudd posted:Her Thighness looks like a lot of fun for my level of play so I'm excited. Plus I like her model, but I'm all about that Gothic/thigh showing/running mascara look. It's a very niche attraction, I know. Her design is horny as gently caress, but it at least looks cool and is not something like Ivy from Soul Calibur which is simultaneously embarrassingly horny and also awful to look at. Frankly I wish they had toned down her alt-skin, since it's really cool thematically but they had to up the ante with some underboob to sell a couple extra skins. Semper Fudge fucked around with this message at 23:15 on Jul 27, 2018 |
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SirSamVimes posted:You mean... Aside from the discipline spec priest that just got announced?
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basing the character on how the spec actually plays now instead of their previous design = not a priest analogue?
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Semper Fudge posted:Her design is horny as gently caress, but it at least looks cool and is not something like Ivy from Soul Calibur which is simultaneously embarrassingly horny and also awful to look at. Yeah, but dat sweet hat.
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 Whitemane confirmed for being the worst hero in HOTS due to bare minimum stats
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Relentless posted:Yeah, but dat sweet hat. dat chapeau tho
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Shadowlyger posted:And no, no one in this game is ever getting a mass rez. I could see it as a huge conditional, requiring building up a laaaarge charge (a la D.Va) based on some skillshots or something, or something like 1500 hp divided by the # of heroes so a mass rez means squishier rezzes. Comedy option: an ult with a literal 10 min CD, halved at level 20
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Dire Human posted:Counterpoint: any bottom-up kit they could put together for a WoW Priest character could be skinned as a much more interesting and relevant character Oh hey, at least one of my calls was right
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