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With the way they are now I'm wondering why you aren't doubling up on the guardians!
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Hard to get enough stuff to justify them I think. They'll only control so much of the board. I do think more solos would be good though, karax UA probably isn't necessary.
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Jul 26, 2018 23:09
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Jimmy Hats posted:With the way they are now I'm wondering why you aren't doubling up on the guardians! With no pathfinder and few skorne casters who can give pathfinder being not the current preferred choices I can't see the need for more than one in a list
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Jul 26, 2018 23:29
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I'd take them just to have them touch the edge of the zones and poo poo out an unending supply of cetrati, everything else is a bonus
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Jul 27, 2018 00:10
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Jimmy Hats posted:I'd take them just to have them touch the edge of the zones and poo poo out an unending supply of cetrati, everything else is a bonus https://conflictchamber.com/#c9201b_-0Z4b4x6V6vdH5P6K5P6h6hmBmB Skorne Army - 74 / 75 points [Theme] Masters of War !!! Your army contains CID entries. [Xerxis 1] Tyrant Xerxis [+28] - Basilisk Krea [7] - Tiberion [22] Extoller Soulward [3] Gobber Tinker [2] Cataphract Cetrati (max) [18] - Tyrant Vorkesh [0(6)] Cataphract Cetrati (max) [18] Tyrant Commander & Standard Bearer [0(6)] Tyrant Commander & Standard Bearer [0(6)] Supreme Guardian [16] Supreme Guardian [16]
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Jul 27, 2018 03:08
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Hell yeah brother.
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Jul 27, 2018 03:34
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Maaan its really depressing that exemplar warders are locked into the stupid exemplar theme. I want to live in a world where I can have their clients be Champions of the wall and crank those fuckers up to def 15, 17, 19 or even... 21??!? In melee.
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Jimmy Hats posted:Maaan its really depressing that exemplar warders are locked into the stupid exemplar theme. I want to live in a world where I can have their clients be Champions of the wall and crank those fuckers up to def 15, 17, 19 or even... 21??!? In melee. gently caress offfffffffff
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Jul 27, 2018 06:05
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If they miss, you can't cut them in half with retaliatory strike! I've been playing a lot of double Champ lists and they live through some stupid stuff: charges from heavies, casters, it's good. I do wish Eilish was less prevalent...I feel neutered playing Vindictus. I want true path on my jerks.
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S.J. posted:https://conflictchamber.com/#c9201b_-0Z4b4x6V6vdH5P6K5P6h6hmBmB Hang a banner between the two Supreme Guardians reading, "The Summit of Miserable Meat Mountain". Wanna play that list... edit: So I'm thinking of packing my bag and trying to sneak in a few Skorne games here and there before the school year really heats up. I bought Morghoul3 ages ago and never got around to playing him. I'm probably going to pair it with Morghoul1 in that Masters of Agony theme for armor cracking while Morghoul3 is my more attrition scenario game. https://conflictchamber.com/#c9201bhS4x4y4y6N6v7y6wfs6C5U5SeI6h Skorne Army - 75 / 75 points [Morghoul 3] Dominar Morghoul & Escorts [+25] - Basilisk Krea [7] - Cyclops Brute [8] - Cyclops Brute [8] - Aptimus Marketh [5] Extoller Soulward [3] Orin Midwinter, Rogue Inquisitor [5] Paingiver Bloodrunner Master Tormentor [4] Legends of Halaak [8] Nihilators (max) [15] Paingiver Beast Handlers (min) [5] Paingiver Bloodrunners [9] Praetorian Keltarii (max) [15] Tyrant Commander & Standard Bearer [6] I'm not really sure what Battlegroup to give him so I stayed pretty minimal and focused on keeping Morghoul alive. After that, its Nihilators (with Occulation) and Keltarii (with Apparition) in the front lines. The Bloodrunners may hang out behind or sneak up the side depending and the Legends of Halakk are behind the front line waiting for the feat turn to get up to no good. The rest is pretty bog-standard support. I have no idea what this will look like on feat turn other than making my opponent's battlelines a mess and looking for a good place to land the assassination. Marketh being able to throw out his Blind spell seems, or juggle a buff, seems like a good idea. Crazy Ferret fucked around with this message at 14:42 on Jul 27, 2018 |
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Jul 27, 2018 14:30
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The fukkin gobber really cracks me up
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Crazy Ferret posted:Hang a banner between the two Supreme Guardians reading, "The Summit of Miserable Meat Mountain". All I gotta say is that my first game with Morg 3 was against Circle and the units (name escapes me right now) that gets boosted attacks against units with upkeep spells. It did not end well for me. Watch out for those matchups when you bring out Morg 3.
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Jul 27, 2018 14:55
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Woldwyrds are real mean
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Jimmy Hats posted:The fukkin gobber really cracks me up The tinker? It's the crowning jewel
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Jul 27, 2018 16:54
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Protectorate CID changes are live in war room and on their website. They threw in a discount on the Cygnar bunker and upped its deployment range
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Jul 28, 2018 00:43
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god drat do I not want to fight against harbinger exemplar
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Exemplar Warder isn't out yet, it could theoretically go Into other themes. Also I'm pretty pleased with the change to Fire Of Salvation overall.
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I mean, that's pretty good I guess, but the real secret list is motherfucking kreoss 2 in guardians https://conflictchamber.com/#c2201b_-0c0Am31X3U3Sf72_2M2K2L2K2L2K2L Protectorate Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] Guardians of the Temple [Kreoss 2] Grand Exemplar Kreoss [+28] - Fire of Salvation [14] - Guardian [15] - Sanctifier [14] Nicia, Tear of Vengeance [0(5)] Pyrrhus, Flameguard Hero [0(5)] Wrack [1] Choir of Menoth (min) [4] Daughters of the Flame [10] Temple Flameguard (max) [11] - Temple Flameguard Officer & Standard [4] Temple Flameguard (max) [11] - Temple Flameguard Officer & Standard [4] Temple Flameguard (max) [11] - Temple Flameguard Officer & Standard [4] Because sometimes you need 36 tough, no-knockdown bodies that knock you down when you manage to kill them. And that auto-hit and swing twice, for good measure. Backed up by some strong anti-magic tech and the game's new single best beater, who counter-charges.
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Jul 28, 2018 01:41
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i don't wanna play against that bullshit either!!!!
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Jimmy Hats posted:Because sometimes you need 36 tough, no-knockdown bodies that knock you down when you manage to kill them. And that auto-hit and swing twice, for good measure. Backed up by some strong anti-magic tech and the game's new single best beater, who counter-charges. gently caress u
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The damage output on fire of salvation is frigging insane even before you factor in the choir. Hand of fate is such a dirty effect, and then you add in dispel... Like, without any support, on a charge he deals about 27 damage to a Khador jack, and is more likely to skew higher than he is to skew lower. On a walk-in he's doing 29ish. Add battle and those change to 35 and 37, respectively. All with a 1/216 chance to actually miss an attack! This loving guy! He's also hitting def 16 on average and he's hitting def 17 52% of the time. When he isn't, you know, auto-hitting under Kreoss2.
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rydiafan posted:gently caress u I'm bringing it to an event next weekend looks like. I know there's an Una2 player in the mix... 
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Jul 28, 2018 01:47
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I need a Judicator...
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Jul 28, 2018 01:59
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menoth players don't deserve good things
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Trading my menoth for circle at the start of mk3 was the single most idiotic thing I've ever done and I've been slowly piecing it back together ever since. I am cursed. I miss my deliverers  Fun fact: Deliverers under Sev1 do POW 16 blast damage on their CRA. In a world of medium bases...
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Jimmy Hats posted:Trading my menoth for circle at the start of mk3 was the single most idiotic thing I've ever done and I've been slowly piecing it back together ever since. I am cursed. I miss my deliverers Ouch, talk about misreading the tea leaves. I really feel bad for... Jimmy Hats posted:Fun fact: Deliverers under Sev1 do POW 16 blast damage on their CRA. In a world of medium bases... Oh wait no...No I do not. I feel nothing here.
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Jul 28, 2018 03:49
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Welp, I was thinking about dipping back into Protectorate having only played Cygnar in MK3 and this sure looks like it's going to do the trick holy poo poo. Time to buy Fire of Salvation.
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Jul 28, 2018 05:29
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I aint got that much TFG
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Jul 28, 2018 08:21
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That's the budget list, and I'm still missing one of the units and two of the UAs. In a perfect world I'd have 7 min units... E: Crazy Ferret posted:Ouch, talk about misreading the tea leaves. I really feel bad for...
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Jul 28, 2018 13:29
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Have faith. I did the same thing at the end of the Mk3 with Cygnar. I was exhausted with Mercs in tournaments and felt like I was working twice as hard for half as much power. I bought this big Cygnar army from a friend and a few months later, Mark 3 is announced. Between learning and loving Mercs again, learning Skorne twice over with the erratas, and getting back in GW a bit, that army has sat in the closet, never played. Worst yet, my cat knocked it off the shelf so I need to do repairs for a good chunk of it before I would even be able to get started. That poor, dumb army is never going to see the light of day. Edit: Sorry if I came across as a dick. Just teasing Crazy Ferret fucked around with this message at 17:06 on Jul 28, 2018 |
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Jul 28, 2018 15:00
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Plz excuse me while i climb into a man-o-war suit, forever...
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War Room Army Protectorate of Menoth - Lugnut Theme: The Faithful Masses 2 / 2 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army Grand Scrutator Severius - WJ: +28 - Hierophant - PC: 0 - Blessing of Vengeance - PC: 13 (Battlegroup Points Used: 13) - Guardian - PC: 15 (Battlegroup Points Used: 15) Initiate Tristan Durant - PC: 0 - Judicator - PC: 34 Wrack - PC: 1 Reclaimer Gatekeeper - PC: 3 Deliverer Skyhammers - Leader & 9 Grunts: 13 Idrian Skirmishers - Leader & 9 Grunts: 15 - Idrian Skirmisher Chieftain & Guide - Chieftain & Guide: 5 Choir of Menoth - Leader & 3 Grunts: 4 THEME: The Faithful Masses --- Because Judicator needs +2 arm, eye of menoth, and hand of vengance. And future sight, of course. *cackles maniacally*
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Jul 28, 2018 18:15
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It's fine. this is fine
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Jul 28, 2018 19:13
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On a serious note having Menoth back in a strong position in the metagame is going to be really good because it preys on boogie man poo poo. Haley3/Sloan pairing, Grymkin, etc are going to have to readjust, which will really help everyone else out.
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Jimmy Hats posted:On a serious note having Menoth back in a strong position in the metagame is going to be really good because it preys on boogie man poo poo. Haley3/Sloan pairing, Grymkin, etc are going to have to readjust, which will really help everyone else out. I love seeing Protectorate when I'm playing my Grymkin in an event.
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I sold my Menoth off at MK 2. Kinda regretting it now. War Room Army Protectorate of Menoth - New Army Theme: The Faithful Masses 1 / 1 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army Servath Reznik, Wrath of Ages - WJ: +29 - Devout - PC: 9 (Battlegroup Points Used: 9) - Revenger - PC: 10 (Battlegroup Points Used: 10) - Scourge of Heresy - PC: 16 (Battlegroup Points Used: 10) Shrine of the Lawgiver - PC: 14 Champion of the Order of the Wall - PC: 8 - Champion of the Order of the Wall (Continued) Champion of the Order of the Wall - PC: 8 - Champion of the Order of the Wall (Continued) Wrack - PC: 1 Idrian Skirmishers - Leader & 9 Grunts: 15 - Idrian Skirmisher Chieftain & Guide - Chieftain & Guide: 0 Choir of Menoth - Leader & 3 Grunts: 4 Horgenhold Forge Guard - Leader & 9 Grunts: 16 - Attendant Priest - PC: 3 THEME: The Faithful Masses --- Also, I hear tell mercs with the Ranking Officer count towards free models now? If so add Vilmon for Righteous Vengeance on those Champions. Edit: So yeah, I found Pagani confirming it. Faithful masses is the ONLY theme list were mercs attached to a ranking officer, in this case the Attendant Priest, count towards theme benefits. Warroom just won’t do it right now Excelsiortothemax fucked around with this message at 22:06 on Jul 28, 2018 |
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Jul 28, 2018 21:50
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I have Menoth from Mark2, which means I have useless trash.
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dexefiend posted:I have Menoth from Mark2, which means I have useless trash. Errants are good though?
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dexefiend posted:I have Menoth from Mark2, which means I have useless trash. I mean they just buffed Cinerators aga-oh, right...
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Pretty sure the only units in menoth that aren't good right now are cleansers and maaaybe holy zealots.
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