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Okan170 posted:Found the archived snapshots of the forums from 9/11: I miss the old layout.
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https://twitter.com/Freeyourmindkid/status/1022825111995469824
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Jul 28, 2018 07:27
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The Thinking Sideways podcast is ending. 
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Jul 28, 2018 07:34
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Aesop Poprock posted:Well yeah but he’s been depressed since the 70s and was pretty open about it. I’m not an expert on his disease so don’t know if it gestates that long though tbh I've read there's a link between the mental stress from depression and dementia. All four of my grandparents died at points where they couldn't recognize their kids anymore. My dad's cancer came back a couple months from retirement and dementia followed within two years. This is all anecdotal but i believe the link is real. A
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Jul 28, 2018 09:20
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Apraxin posted:But if you want to though, it's here: It's just as awful as I remembered, why did I click that... Thanks for the documentary though!
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Jul 28, 2018 11:01
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bean_shadow posted:The Murder of Brian Wells I remember that! It was big news since it was all of an hour or two away from where I live and was real  at the time.
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Jul 28, 2018 14:23
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That was an amazing documentary. Netflix has really been bringing it's A game for crime docs.
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Jul 28, 2018 19:22
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Rondette posted:The Thinking Sideways podcast is ending. Aw no, did they announce this on a recent episode? I admit I haven't listened in a while but it was one of my first podcasts and I have such fond feelings for it. Why are they ending?
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Jul 28, 2018 19:31
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Kitfox88 posted:The reaction when the second plane hits and they realize it was deliberate and not an accident and start screaming brings back bad memories. I dunno if the memory and feeling is ever gonna be one I forget.
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Jul 28, 2018 19:42
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YES CURES SINNERS posted:Aw no, did they announce this on a recent episode? I admit I haven't listened in a while but it was one of my first podcasts and I have such fond feelings for it. Why are they ending? Awwww... I also haven't listened in a while because I've been a bit off podcasts for the moment. I just popped in to listen to their latest (and last) episode and it sounds like Steve is moving to southeast Asia and they just don't think it's feasible to continue the podcast after that. They have some content they're going to keep releasing for a little while.
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Jul 28, 2018 19:51
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Arsenic Lupin posted:I was watching Challenger live and the WTC live. I still remember the cold shock in both cases, the "this can't possibly be happening". God, that moment when the second plane hit and we all knew this was intentional. I saw and heard the Challenger blow up. My family and neighbors were all watching it in our backyard. I barely remember it, but I seem to recall it sounding like thunder.
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Jul 28, 2018 21:50
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It's a good time for Thinking Sideways to call it. They have a massive backlog of good episodes and it seems like they have already tapped every interesting case there is. The last few haven't been very captivating. Hopefully some of them can move on to other podcasts.
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Jul 28, 2018 23:27
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Ariong posted:Just found this 9/11 footage I’d never seen before. It’s a recording made by a woman living on the 32nd floor of a nearby building. She and her friend debate whether or not the things visibly falling from the burning tower are people. Don’t click this if you don’t want to see 9/11 happen. This is...rough, JFC. From a few pages back, but the Air crash Investigation/Mayday episode about 9/11 is...harrowing. It's largely based on the experiences of the flight attendants and how they tried to explain to the ground what was going on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRNPyNuRa4s
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Jul 29, 2018 00:24
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bean_shadow posted:The Murder of Brian Wells Just watched the netflix documentary on this, Evil Genius, and...jesus. What a weird case.
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Jul 29, 2018 00:27
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Evil Genius is great because, like they point out in the documentary, most people just remember the bomb going off and then some vague memory of hearing that the victim was in on it. Finding out about the whole crazy web of wannabe Moriartys stabbing each other in the back was really something (and really sad, if they're right about Wells being innocent)
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Jul 29, 2018 05:02
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I doubt we'll ever know if he was in on it in any way. I just think it's a stupid law that says you can't be tried for murder if they were part of the conspiracy. How the gently caress is that a thing?
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Jul 29, 2018 05:22
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Solice Kirsk posted:I doubt we'll ever know if he was in on it in any way. I just think it's a stupid law that says you can't be tried for murder if they were part of the conspiracy. How the gently caress is that a thing? It’s... not? 
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Jul 29, 2018 07:46
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Okan170 posted:Found the archived snapshots of the forums from 9/11: Took one page for them to go, "Bin Laden". drat, Past SA had its finger on the pulse.
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Jul 29, 2018 09:53
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I've just started listening to podcasts, so I'm way behind the times; tried Sword and Scale based on ancient recommendations in this thread, pretty sure Mike Boudet is working up to earning an episode of his own podcast. LPOTL wasn't my thing, but the ones I've appreciated so far (relevant to this thread) are: Criminal, Generation Why, In The Dark, Lore, Aftereffect, Strangers, The Trouble, and Snap Judgment. Whoever suggested the Playing God episode of Radiolab (https://www.wnycstudios.org/story/playing-god/), that was absolutely spot on. Listened to it tonight and it was chilling, not just because of the events, but because it asks you to make the same decisions when there are no right answers and live with them.
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Jul 29, 2018 10:05
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Dissapointed Owl posted:Took one page for them to go, "Bin Laden". drat, Past SA had its finger on the pulse. I mean at that point Bin Laden had (semi) successfully bombed the WTC once before, and Al Qaeda had successfully bombed the USS Cole so it wasn't completely out there that AQ would have been responsible for such a horrendous attack. But the "WATCH BUSH START A WAR" quote was also extremely prescient. Really that thread is an interesting snapshot to what I remember hearing back during the initial attacks.
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Jul 29, 2018 10:37
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RNG posted:I've just started listening to podcasts, so I'm way behind the times; tried Sword and Scale based on ancient recommendations in this thread, pretty sure Mike Boudet is working up to earning an episode of his own podcast. LPOTL wasn't my thing, but the ones I've appreciated so far (relevant to this thread) are: Criminal, Generation Why, In The Dark, Lore, Aftereffect, Strangers, The Trouble, and Snap Judgment. Whoever suggested the Playing God episode of Radiolab (https://www.wnycstudios.org/story/playing-god/), that was absolutely spot on. Listened to it tonight and it was chilling, not just because of the events, but because it asks you to make the same decisions when there are no right answers and live with them. Sword and Scale is the ultimate in trashy crime podcasting, it feels so skeezy to listen to. Try Casefile: http://casefilepodcast.com/ as it's a lot more respectful and interesting, imo. I haven't heard of In the Dark, Aftereffect, etc - thanks for the recs! And seconding Lore for anyone and everyone, it's fantastic. 
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Jul 29, 2018 11:05
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StrixNebulosa posted:Sword and Scale is the ultimate in trashy crime podcasting, it feels so skeezy to listen to. Try Casefile: http://casefilepodcast.com/ as it's a lot more respectful and interesting, imo. You should also check out the podcast called Dirty John. It's a trip.
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Jul 29, 2018 11:19
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StrixNebulosa posted:Sword and Scale is the ultimate in trashy crime podcasting, it feels so skeezy to listen to. Try Casefile: http://casefilepodcast.com/ as it's a lot more respectful and interesting, imo. I really wanna listen to Casefile (and a bunch of others) but since I have to download them to listen to later I can't use Stitcher or other apps. Will try to find a workaround, but thanks!
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Jul 29, 2018 11:59
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RNG posted:I really wanna listen to Casefile (and a bunch of others) but since I have to download them to listen to later I can't use Stitcher or other apps. Will try to find a workaround, but thanks! What do you mean you can only download them? Like you can't stream on your phone or something and need to be on wifi? If so try dogcatcher, it has a download X new eps only when on wifi option.
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Jul 29, 2018 12:18
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Plinkey posted:What do you mean you can only download them? Like you can't stream on your phone or something and need to be on wifi? I save and download them, if possible, have to use my phone for work.
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Jul 29, 2018 12:26
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RNG posted:I really wanna listen to Casefile (and a bunch of others) but since I have to download them to listen to later I can't use Stitcher or other apps. Will try to find a workaround, but thanks! "Click on the audioboom link and type .mp3 on the end of it" I googled and you CAN download Casefile episodes!
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Jul 29, 2018 12:28
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StrixNebulosa posted:"Click on the audioboom link and type .mp3 on the end of it" Nice, thank you, seriously, really wanted to listen to those.
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Jul 29, 2018 12:33
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Dissapointed Owl posted:Took one page for them to go, "Bin Laden". drat, Past SA had its finger on the pulse. Hell, I had that one figured out while watching the news on the TV in my school cafeteria. I was 14. (I think I'd read some magazine article in Reader's Digest about him at some point?) With regards to podcasts, I'd recommend Reply Ally's 4 part episode "One the Inside". It's almost like a mini-Serial. https://www.gimletmedia.com/reply-all/64-on-the-inside#episode-player quote:For years, Paul Modrowski has been writing a blog from inside a maximum security prison. Only thing is, he was arrested when he was 18 and has never seen the internet. Sruthi Pinnamaneni reaches out to him with one small question that alters the course of her next year. There's a few other crime related episodes but they're mostly about internet scams of various sorts. (fascinating, but not quite the theme of this thread) There's also Futility Closet which does "forgotten stories from the pages of history" including a lot of murders and disappeared people and that sort of thing. The production values aren't quite as high on this one as it's just made by two people at their house, but Greg Ross puts a HUGE amount of research and lists all his sources. https://www.futilitycloset.com/podcast/
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Jul 29, 2018 14:33
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Don Gato posted:But the "WATCH BUSH START A WAR" quote was also extremely prescient. Really that thread is an interesting snapshot to what I remember hearing back during the initial attacks. Was it that far fetched to predict Bush starting a war? Iraq tried to kill his daddy. He would have found some way to invade, no matter if the reason was a lie or not. And there was the oil, of course. Shoot and ask questions later.
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Jul 29, 2018 14:36
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Someone Knows Something is sort of hit-or-miss with each season but the season 4 is peak unnerving. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eF4qM_VgJ4 It builds upon this short film, which begins with an incredibly  , triggering and traumatic 911 call.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3N1RMJuKvBk
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Jul 29, 2018 16:49
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bean_shadow posted:Was it that far fetched to predict Bush starting a war? Iraq tried to kill his daddy. He would have found some way to invade, no matter if the reason was a lie or not. And there was the oil, of course. Shoot and ask questions later. No, it was widely known the neocons were looking for an excuse to go back into Iraq long before 911
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Jul 29, 2018 18:03
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There’s the slight temptation to be like “well if 9/11 hadn’t happened then Bush Junior would be remembered mostly for No Child Left Behind” but yeah I’m sure something would have happened that triggered a jingoistic foreign adventure, though it would have been a smaller one than the two-country party we ended up getting.
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Jul 29, 2018 18:50
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my husband ariel sharon was against invading iraq because it would accomplish nothing but plunging the region into an unmanageable tyre fire!  he wanted to invade iran instead 
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Dissapointed Owl posted:Took one page for them to go, "Bin Laden". drat, Past SA had its finger on the pulse. And 17 pages to start arguing about posting images from a comic book.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_David_Coughlinquote:On August 8, Kodikian wrote in his journal: 
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Jul 30, 2018 12:43
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this was the inspiration for Gerry, a really great film!
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Jul 30, 2018 16:38
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The thing that I never understood and still really have no theory on about the Brian Wells case, even after watching the documentary, is why they decided to give wells these convoluted instructions that would've made it ten times harder for him to get back to them before the bomb went off. I mean, the two basic scenarios are: 1. Wells was at least partially in on the scheme, so the instructions were meant as a way to throw off investigators and make it seem like he was just an innocent victim. The problem with that is Wells appears to have actually followed the instructions at least up to the point where he was confronted by police, so it seems that if the instructions were bullshit, nobody told Wells that. 2. Wells was 100% innocent, so the instructions were meant to get him to drop the money at a drop-off point where they could come along later take it without worrying about the cops. The problem with that is the instructions kept Wells close to the bank, basically doing laps right around where cops were converging to find him. So he was almost immediately caught and had zero chance of making it back to the conspirators with the cash. When you look at what the instructions has Wells doing, and the time he had to do it, you have to conclude that he was never meant to make it back with the money. So the only idea I can think of that makes any sense is that Marjorie just decided to hatch this plan out of boredom/curiosity and was basically just doing it for fun because she's a psychopath. She never had any intention of getting any money out of it and just wanted to enjoy the show. Basebf555 has a new favorite as of 17:39 on Jul 30, 2018 |
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Jul 30, 2018 17:36
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I haven't seen the documentary, but the Casefile episode on the Wells bombing heavily suggests that Marjorie wanted revenge on the bank, and every other element of the plan was secondary to that. http://casefilepodcast.com/case-81-brian-wells/
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Basebf555 posted:So the only idea I can think of that makes any sense is that Marjorie just decided to hatch this plan out of boredom/curiosity and was basically just doing it for fun because she's a psychopath. She never had any intention of getting any money out of it and just wanted to enjoy the show.
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Scarodactyl posted:Well, you know, some women aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some women just want to watch the world burn. And if they come with a psycho not-boyfriend who's perfectly willing to stick a corpse into a freezer before they figure out how to dispose of it, WELP.
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