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Ineffiable posted:I finished yakuza 0 and will start on kiwami. Any good advice I should know to start with? I plan to play it slowly that by the time I finish, kiwami 2 will have been out and go on sale on black friday/Christmas. Don't leap off a bridge in despair when you fight Shimano.
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Colostomy Bag posted:Problem is (and I was new to the series) that it will be like some time loop thing crossing across time on how video games are developed. I dunno if I would say 6 is really lacking content. There’s not as much stuff as in past games, but there’s still a LOT of stuff. I really liked the reworked mini games. I do miss Pool, though. I heard golf is back in Kiwami 2?
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Jul 28, 2018 17:42
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I don't know why they had to change the reticle for darts so it's really difficult to see the center or make the buttons obnoxiously colored in Kiwami 2.
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Jul 28, 2018 18:18
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Play Kiwami on easy until you beat Shimano.
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Jul 28, 2018 18:35
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Is Kiwami really that bad compared to other games? Why does it have such a bad rep?
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Jul 28, 2018 18:47
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Early ps2 era game design.
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Jul 28, 2018 18:51
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Terminally Bored posted:Is Kiwami really that bad compared to other games? Why does it have such a bad rep? It just has a rough start leading into one particular early boss fight and coming off of 0 can feel like a much thinner experience
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Jul 28, 2018 18:52
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Terminally Bored posted:Is Kiwami really that bad compared to other games? Why does it have such a bad rep? no mark hamil
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Jul 28, 2018 18:52
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Kiwami’s not bad it’s just that 0 is so much more funny/dramatic by comparison. But Kiwami has some high points that surpass 0 here and there, esp the ending.
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Jul 28, 2018 18:53
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The issues with Kiwami mostly stem from the fact that it's still very obviously the first game in the series and also originally a PS2 game. Most noticeably the majority of the sidequests aren't interesting, varied, or funny compared to the later games. The boss fights mostly suck due to their regenerating health gimmick, especially one early on. Majima Everywhere is novel at first, but quickly gets tiring as he pops up more and more with multiple health bars. Otherwise, it's the definitive way to experience the story of the first game, and a fine game all in all. But Zero is better by virtue of having more features and not being restricted to being a remake of an older title.
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Jul 28, 2018 19:48
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man nurse posted:The issues with Kiwami mostly stem from the fact that it's still very obviously the first game in the series and also originally a PS2 game. Most noticeably the majority of the sidequests aren't interesting, varied, or funny compared to the later games. The boss fights mostly suck due to their regenerating health gimmick, especially one early on. Majima Everywhere is novel at first, but quickly gets tiring as he pops up more and more with multiple health bars. My favorite part of 6 is the way they got rid of multiple health bars. Dudes are just overall way less damage spongy in that game. Amon was tanky, I guess, but he’s the super tough optional boss so I’m cool with that.
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Jul 28, 2018 19:51
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Kiwami's Dragon of Dojima style was great, because as the later-game fighting was getting stale, that style was coming into its own and gave me a lot of new, potent options in battle. Really breathed new life in. After I beat it I put Y0 back in to check if [late-game spoiler]the Dragon of Dojima style there had a lot of the same skills, and it does (notable exception being the Tiger Drop). That was fun because when I first unlocked it in Y0, I didn't really know what moves I had.
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Jul 28, 2018 20:21
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Kiwami's side quests as a whole are worse than 0's, but the one with Shinichi Shinohara is probably better than any in 0
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Jul 28, 2018 20:41
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curried lamb of God posted:Kiwami's side quests as a whole are worse than 0's, but the one with Shinichi Shinohara is probably better than any in 0 Note that this substory was developed for Kiwami after 0, so they were already on a roll from 0. The ones that are from the original game are very noticeable (get me a drink, thanks. beat this guy up, thanks.)
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Jul 28, 2018 20:54
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Ugly In The Morning posted:My favorite part of 6 is the way they got rid of multiple health bars. Dudes are just overall way less damage spongy in that game. Amon was tanky, I guess, but he’s the super tough optional boss so I’m cool with that. Uhhhhm... Kiwami 2 re-adds multiple health bars. Most notably to Majima, the wrestlers, the Amons, and Ryuji.
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Jul 28, 2018 21:56
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widespread posted:Uhhhhm... Kiwami 2 re-adds multiple health bars. Most notably to Majima, the wrestlers, the Amons, and Ryuji.  Oh well.
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Jul 28, 2018 21:59
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c06PfLEQJ6Q I think they might’ve changed too many things in the Yakuza 2 remake
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Jul 29, 2018 00:48
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I would pay however much yen they wanted hourly to sit with shirtless Kiryu and you would too, don't lie
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Jul 29, 2018 01:42
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Steve Yun posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c06PfLEQJ6Q On one end, we might have tampered with God's domain. On the other, getting drunk with the diaper guy seems legit... to a point.
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Jul 29, 2018 02:05
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I don't want him shirtless. I want him in that crazy mascot uniform kicking rear end.
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Jul 29, 2018 02:06
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Something I noticed about the Batting Cages in Yakuza 0. It took me the better part of the game to figure out when to swing, and I got decent at it. I started playing again, and I'm trying to get perfect scores in each difficulty. It sucks; I'm not doing well. I've gotten almost perfect in the first 2, but have missed ONE swing. Like... the last swing... it sucks. But what I noticed is that Kiryu changes his stance right when you should swing. Figuring that out hasn't helped me get a perfect score; but I remember how long it took me to get the basic timing down for the low-stakes cages. Kiryu has a rhythm twirling the bat when the round starts. But if you look carefully as the ball comes towards you, you'll see his rhythm change slightly at the exact moment you should hit the ball. It works best for me looking at the ball, and keeping him in my peripheral vision. If his rhythm changes, I swing. IDK, just FYI
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Jul 29, 2018 09:43
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JohnnyTreachery posted:Early ps2 era game design. I'm probably in the minority here, but I'd rather play the original (or at least the PS3 HD edition) than Kiwami.
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Jul 29, 2018 10:27
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And not take the lovely Goromi up on a date? gently caress that.
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Jul 29, 2018 10:29
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Well yes, to be fair all the scripted Majima stuff is a lot of fun. Grinding the Majima Everywhere fights, not so much.
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Jul 29, 2018 10:37
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Captain Lavender posted:Something I noticed about the Batting Cages in Yakuza 0. I really liked the way they changed baseball in 6, since you aren’t angling the camera in weird ways to aim your swing anymore and you can keep your eye on the ball instead. Mind you, I’m also a weirdo who sank like 10 hours into the baseball manager mini game.
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Jul 29, 2018 10:41
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I finally finished the climax battles in kiwami to get the accessories I needed to finish the completion list. I then discover there's another rank of weapon completion that I didn't notice. Turns out I need 30 more weapons. Why is there one extraneous completion point?!!
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Jul 29, 2018 11:39
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Alright, finished Y6 and... yeah, that was definitely the most Kiryu-like decision Kiryu has ever made. But overall, I'm okay with this. I would have greatly preferred if way more older characters showed up, like the Okinawa yakuza crew, Aizama and Watase, and much more Majima and Saejima. Like, this series is already cheesy as gently caress, you might as well have went in full throttle with the fan service angle like how they built up Kiryu's relationship with Date over the games and now with how Date is the only few people that know that Kiryu is still alive. But I guess I technically have Kiwami 2 left before finishing up the series. I have also heard that 2 has the best villain in the series, so there's that too.
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Jul 29, 2018 12:48
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I dunno how I feel about Y6's ending A recurring theme of Yakuza games has been Kiryu loving off and trying to get out, and everything going to loving hell specifically because he didn't remain to take responsibility, in the game, it's pointed out that he refuses to take responsibility. So at the end of the game, after everything... Kiryu runs off and doesn't take responsibility
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Jul 29, 2018 14:36
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Onmi posted:I dunno how I feel about Y6's ending A recurring theme of Yakuza games has been Kiryu loving off and trying to get out, and everything going to loving hell specifically because he didn't remain to take responsibility, in the game, it's pointed out that he refuses to take responsibility. So at the end of the game, after everything... Kiryu runs off and doesn't take responsibility Exactly, especially now that the announcement text for Shin Yakuza shows that once again the Tojo Clan is completely hosed, except this time there's no Kiryu to bail them out
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Jul 29, 2018 14:42
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Ugly In The Morning posted:I really liked the way they changed baseball in 6, since you aren’t angling the camera in weird ways to aim your swing anymore and you can keep your eye on the ball instead. Mind you, I’m also a weirdo who sank like 10 hours into the baseball manager mini game. I still want a whole, fleshed out Yakuza Baseball game.
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Jul 29, 2018 14:43
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5 has the best baseball game because it was easy
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Jul 29, 2018 14:46
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CharlestonJew posted:Exactly, especially now that the announcement text for Shin Yakuza shows that once again the Tojo Clan is completely hosed, except this time there's no Kiryu to bail them out Actually, that was something I was wondering about. When Daigo was like "we won't declare war on the Yomei alliance because Kiryu didn't want me to, we'll do the peace route as equals", even though this kind of approach absolutely did not work in 5, I was thinking "wait, but wasn't the Omi Alliance at the eleventh hour of warring against the Tojo in 5? And the Tojo has gotten its rear end kicked by goddamn Triads all in 6? I wonder if this decision will bite him in the rear end.
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Sakurazuka posted:5 has the best baseball game because it was easy Once you bought the expensive gear it was a piece of piss
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Jul 29, 2018 18:26
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FLY LIKE A BEAUTIFUL BUTTERFLY
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Jul 29, 2018 21:56
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To celebrate the new thread, what are everyone's favorite Yakuza karaoke songs? I personally memorized the words to Baka Mitai when I was at work.
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Jul 29, 2018 22:11
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Probably rouge of love
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Jul 29, 2018 22:44
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24 HOUR CINDERELLA
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Jul 29, 2018 22:52
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Maybe it would be easier to list everyone's least favorite karaoke songs. I think Tonight is kind of boring. Doesn't help that there isn't any insane fantasy sequence either. I guess it's nice that it appears in Kiwami since all the stuff in that game and 0 leaves you kind of conflicted about Nishiki.
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Jul 29, 2018 22:56
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I introduced my partner to Yakuza by showing them 24 Hour Cinderella so that gets the top point for me. As for least favorite... I dunno, nothing really spoke to me in 3 (with the exception of Kamurocho Lullaby).
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GANDHITRON posted:To celebrate the new thread, what are everyone's favorite Yakuza karaoke songs? I personally memorized the words to Baka Mitai when I was at work. I love the timing of our posts
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