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They skipped the race car.
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Tae posted:They skipped the race car.  Well, at least slowbeef's getting into it. 
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Jul 27, 2018 15:14
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Vandar posted:I never understood the whole 'Put 2BF audio over My Little Pony animations' thing that 2Snacks does, but it's more confusing that he's still doing it. I see it kinda like Volta Bass intros. The animation is good, and the editing for some of the scenes is pretty good. Sure, yeah, ponies are a weird choice. But eh, to each their own.
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Jul 27, 2018 15:20
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I can't fuckin' believe one of the options is to demand an entire US State for androids.
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Jul 27, 2018 20:52
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Just give them the lovely state.
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Jul 27, 2018 20:58
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Oxyclean posted:Just give them the lovely state. I don't think giving them the entire US is very realistic though
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Jul 27, 2018 20:59
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The only choice is Missouri. I mean, when's the last time you even realized Missouri existed, that didn't involve a sports team from there. Or Iowa I guess, it's basically like 10 farmers anyway with 100000 acres each, might as well let the robots ride the already-automated tractors.
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Jul 27, 2018 21:05
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doubleposts are cool + good
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Indecisive posted:The only choice is Missouri. I mean, when's the last time you even realized Missouri existed, that didn't involve a sports team from there. Or Iowa I guess, it's basically like 10 farmers anyway with 100000 acres each, might as well let the robots ride the already-automated tractors. Politicians fear the great and terrible power of Iowa, occasionally. How long has president vlogger been in charge? Is it an election year?
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Jul 27, 2018 21:22
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Wiseblood posted:I can't fuckin' believe one of the options is to demand an entire US State for androids. Honestly? Give them Alaska, they don't even feel cold (unless drama demands that they fake it)
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Jul 27, 2018 22:38
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WampaLord posted:Honestly? Give them Alaska, they don't even feel cold (unless drama demands that they fake it) Robot child makes me mad every time I think about it.
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Jul 27, 2018 22:42
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I love how North goes up every single time you murder anyone, human or android.HoboTech posted:Robot child makes me mad every time I think about it. It's the worst twist ever, a good twist should make you excited to watch it again and see all the pieces fit into place, this one just makes me angry.
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Jul 27, 2018 22:45
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WampaLord posted:It's the worst twist ever, a good twist should make you excited to watch it again and see all the pieces fit into place, this one just makes me angry. Agreed. The game also obfuscates a bunch of information from you to do it. Like yeah, I can write a twist no one can see coming if I can basically lie to the viewer/reader/player/victim. The reactions from the guys were good, though. Also I just want to promote Tokyo Mirage Sessions for anyone who isn't at least running it in the background for the conversations. I've never played either of the franchises being mashed together, but the sheer weird anime bullshit of it all makes for some great Woolie/Matt moments. I can't believe it LITERALLY does the "5000 year old dragon in the body of a little girl" trope.
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Jul 27, 2018 23:51
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Indecisive posted:The only choice is Missouri. I mean, when's the last time you even realized Missouri existed, that didn't involve a sports team from there. Or Iowa I guess, it's basically like 10 farmers anyway with 100000 acres each, might as well let the robots ride the already-automated tractors. wyoming my man.
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Jul 27, 2018 23:51
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For those who watched the videos of The Council: https://giant.gfycat.com/GiganticSentimentalBlobfish.webm
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Jul 28, 2018 00:07
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HoboTech posted:Also I just want to promote Tokyo Mirage Sessions for anyone who isn't at least running it in the background for the conversations. I've never played either of the franchises being mashed together, but the sheer weird anime bullshit of it all makes for some great Woolie/Matt moments. I can't believe it LITERALLY does the "5000 year old dragon in the body of a little girl" trope. That's just a FE character basically directly ripped from the very first game.
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Jul 28, 2018 00:15
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Solitair posted:For those who watched the videos of The Council: https://giant.gfycat.com/GiganticSentimentalBlobfish busted link
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Jul 28, 2018 00:18
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Biggest loving news, they uploaded all the website exclusive stuff to vimeo: https://vimeo.com/sbfp
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Jul 28, 2018 00:44
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Hell yeah, I can finally rewatch the Nuzlocke finale!
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Jul 28, 2018 01:42
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Ches Neckbeard posted:busted link Fixed. Scroll up.
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HoboTech posted:Agreed. The game also obfuscates a bunch of information from you to do it. Like yeah, I can write a twist no one can see coming if I can basically lie to the viewer/reader/player/victim. The reactions from the guys were good, though. What's obfuscated beyond the magazine? Like, it's dumb as poo poo because it kinda doesn't really do anything for the story? But it also makes character reactions and some previous plot points make more sense. (Like why Todd's first thing is "the loving android kidnapped my kid" / Amber Alert level panic over an android stealing a kid) Or why she seems to survive without ever actually eating.  Maybe I'm just easy to appease but I feel like a lot of the nitpicks about child bot are kind of dumb. Why is it so dumb that a robot designed to emulate a child acts hungry and cold, and in general is designed to not remind it you it's not real? That said, the question of deviancy kinda breaks things - you can assume she's just not deviant which explains her never breaking her programming - but she can apparently shoot Todd, which you think would require deviancy and her to maybe break out of child.exe To be way too charitable to the game, maybe the pre-deviancy programming heavily informs their personality & way they act as a deviant? A child bot might not realize to overcome it's "needs" programming because it's heavily ingrained.
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Oxyclean posted:Why is it so dumb that a robot designed to emulate a child acts hungry and cold, and in general is designed to not remind it you it's not real? It's mostly because of this: Oxyclean posted:That said, the question of deviancy kinda breaks things - you can assume she's just not deviant which explains her never breaking her programming - but she can apparently shoot Todd, which you think would require deviancy and her to maybe break out of child.exe It's pretty safe to assume the intended reading is that Alice was deviant all along, given she never really acts like a pre-deviancy android. There's the whole "of course the child android is programmed to act like a real child" argument, but somehow I doubt we're intended to think that CyberLife would put "acts like a real abused child" on the box, especially when every other pre-deviancy android acts noticeably robotic. Plus there's the fact Todd runs a tight schedule of regular daily child abuse, so it's safe to assume she's got the emotional trauma to have gone deviant before the start of the game. Of course a lot of this is conjecture given we never actually see another android child do or say anything, but that itself is part of the problem. Android children exist purely so Kara's motherhood storyline can have a twist near the end. Since this is purely for that one twist, there is no need to have android children anywhere outside of that specific context. If you really feel like defending it you could argue that Alice acts like an abused kid because that is in fact what she is. Daddy won't love me if I act like a robot, so I better act like a real kid around mommy or she won't love me anymore either. You mentioned that their pre-programmed personality could affect who they are post-deviancy, but I can't say I buy into it. At the very least I doubt sexbots have "violent insurrectionist" in their core-programming. Not that I trust David Cage with writing a woman who resents being forced into sex slavery while also struggling with the fact she is programmed to be extremely into it, especially given his fetish for women in peril, but the point remains androids don't seem to have a lot of issues rejecting who they were pre-deviancy either. Not that the game is consistent about this, anyway; in the same scene we have Luther saying it doesn't matter who he was before while the Jerries bust in saying how much they love making children happy because they're carnie robots. Most of all the whole Alice thing, at least to me, just makes it transparently clear how this is primarily a game about real world racism and oppression hastily painted over while trying to say as little as possible. This is chiefly a game about the underground railway but with all instances of "African American" replaced with "android" in the first editing pass. That's why anything uniquely android tends to get glossed over. What do age and gender matter to beings that don't grow or sexually reproduce? How would those essential differences affect humans in turn? Alice is potentially older than Kara, she's certainly older than Markus and Connor, how would that affect their relationship? Those would be potentially interesting questions to ask, but they get in the way of Kara's motherhood storyline so please conveniently ignore this.
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It also, in a game about the relationships between humans and androids (as purported by David Cage), the twist that Alice is actually an android child undercuts Kara's entire narrative of "can an android be a supportive and caring mother for a child", because both are androids.
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a cartoon duck posted:Most of all the whole Alice thing, at least to me, just makes it transparently clear how this is primarily a game about real world racism and oppression hastily painted over while trying to say as little as possible. This is chiefly a game about the underground railway but with all instances of "African American" replaced with "android" in the first editing pass. I've ran myself in circles ranting to no one in particular about how none of the robot's actions/physiology/connor's strategy for apprehending other robots makes any sense at all, and no matter how hard I try to advocate what little of its premise the game manages to establish in earnest, I always come back to the same underlying reason. Said reason being that the androids don't act like fresh synthetic consciousnesses, because they simply aren't androids; they're just humans. All the inconsistencies of "why would a robot do this?" "why would a robot need/prioritise that?" point directly back at David Cage's total lack of imagination or even willingness to adequately explore a perspective alien to his own. They all act like humans and make decisions like humans because David Cage is utterly incapable of writing from any perspective beyond the purview of human melodrama.
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Jul 28, 2018 19:02
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Man, woolie is really bad at shmups
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Justice Sloth posted:I've ran myself in circles ranting to no one in particular about how none of the robot's actions/physiology/connor's strategy for apprehending other robots makes any sense at all, and no matter how hard I try to advocate what little of its premise the game manages to establish in earnest, I always come back to the same underlying reason. All of the characters are way more interesting before they go deviant, which is kinda funny. One part that stuck out to me was right at the start, when Markus was pushed down and kicked by the protesters. He shows basically no emotion whatsoever, and my immediate thought was just "oh, right, he's a robot, why should he give a crap?" and that made me not give a crap, which was neat. Then he goes deviant and he's just like... a guy. Connor's the most interesting character simply because he goes the longest without going deviant, and the moment he does even he becomes way more boring.
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Pigbuster posted:All of the characters are way more interesting before they go deviant, which is kinda funny. One part that stuck out to me was right at the start, when Markus was pushed down and kicked by the protesters. He shows basically no emotion whatsoever, and my immediate thought was just "oh, right, he's a robot, why should he give a crap?" and that made me not give a crap, which was neat. Then he goes deviant and he's just like... a guy. Connor's the most interesting character simply because he goes the longest without going deviant, and the moment he does even he becomes way more boring. Markus legitimately pisses me off because he goes from what is legitimately a place of privilege in terms of how he was treated to WE ARE NOT YOUR SLAVES in like one of the more bizzare 180s in the game. Markus didn't have free will but he was never actually treated like a slave, hell, Carl seems pretty straight up kind of trying to softly guide him to an idea of independence, but all that goes out the window because whoops we need our allegories for racial tensions
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I mean despite how well your master treats you, you can still be a slave. He's still doing menial things and bit work at Carl's behest even if Carl does good by him, he's still literally owned by someone.
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Yardbomb posted:I mean despite how well your master treats you, you can still be a slave. He's still doing menial things and bit work at Carl's behest even if Carl does good by him, he's still literally owned by someone. I mean, yes, but it's still a little hosed up when he's trying to equate his experience to sex slaves and other hardships. And there's even a scene later on I believe where you reunite with Carl after Markus has gone deviant, so it's not like he apparently holds that against him. It's a pretty clear narrative disconnect despite the slave angle, is what I'm getting at here.
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Today's deaths in Detroit were loving hilarious.
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"I guess you do have to be afraid of us when we're unarmed" -- Woolie Madden 2018
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hahahahahahahahahahaha Are you loving serious Bullshit that was a goddamn killing the cop, all he did was shove him to the ground. Lol gently caress off Cage. That part after that even was better. I love how nonchalant she is that there's a cop on the floor. Shindragon fucked around with this message at 00:37 on Jul 30, 2018 |
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Jul 30, 2018 00:31
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I saw this comment on the latest episode and they were even nice enough to link to the story - https://www.canardpc.com/373/strange-atmosphere-quantic-dreamquote:CanardPC did an in depth investigation on Quantic Dream and found tons of garbage behavior from David Cage and staff. For the sake of brevity, some of the lesser bad things included: Also I'm still laughing like gently caress at how justifiably angry Pat gets over poo poo like Alice faking a fever.
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why are you surprised that the french fetish studio is maybe a bad place to work?
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Jul 30, 2018 01:03
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pat micromanaging matt is very in character
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Jul 30, 2018 01:13
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Shindragon posted:
he hit him with the special android shove that kills people, like how the creepy mansion guy gets pushed to the floor TO DEATH by android zombies
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Jul 30, 2018 08:46
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It’s bullshit but you see the cop hit the table/chair on his way down so that *probably* did it. It’s still stupid though. Probably one of those weak neck guys related to the Mars family
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Jul 30, 2018 17:03
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They're going to end up with an even worse ending then before, aren't they? I like how Pat went from "I'm going to be best friends with Hank / maximum instability" to pretty much the complete opposite.
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I can't wait for them to scream over the Final Chapter of the Walking Dead in August.
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