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Cup Runneth Over posted:So Glad has a literally infinite OOS punish? He can just toestab you into knocking you down until you die and you can't do anything about it? Well you can dodge
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No you can't. You get knocked down, dumbass.
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Jul 13, 2018 17:57
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Cup Runneth Over posted:No you can't. You get knocked down, dumbass. Sure, and after you get up glad doesn't get another confirmed toe stab. You can dodge when you see the animation starting and still avoid it. now positioning and reaction times will make a big difference and in certain situations the time you have to react may be very very low. But Gladiator does not have an infinite OOS punish.
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Jul 13, 2018 18:04
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The toe stab is also heavily delayed (it's like 2 or 3x slower IIRC) when used against an opponent that's out of stamina, so it should be extremely telegraphed regardless
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Jul 13, 2018 18:11
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WTF is with these servers lately???? I tried to get on two days in a row and it just won’t let me. It says the servers are down or Ubisoft isn’t responding. Is anyone else getting this? I played like one whole game and got dropped from my game today and can’t get back in.
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Jul 16, 2018 18:37
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Ubi's servers for all of their games have been exploding the last few days.
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Jul 16, 2018 19:11
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Yeah I was in the middle of a ranked duel tournament when it dropped me out. Ranked is so frustrating even by itself I just want some loving cool ornaments  You spend more time waiting in the menu than you do fighting. On top of that because barely anyone plays ranked very high skill players intentionally de-rank to bronze/silver just so they can smurf and stomp people so you just wasted 40 minutes for nothing.
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Jul 16, 2018 19:33
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Rainuwastaken posted:Ubi's servers for all of their games have been exploding the last few days. I fully expect to find out this is people ddosing or something as retaliation for the racism bans in siege.
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Jul 16, 2018 19:34
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Postoyevsky posted:i've heard from multiple people that the rework literally makes her worse. please god no  Edit: Perestroika posted:As for assorted random tips: Ledges aren't all one should take advantage of.  
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Jul 17, 2018 04:09
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Just picked this game up when it was free for June, and I'm loving it so far! I've mostly been spamming the Warden because their playstyle feels fairly intuitive to me, but I've got maybe 5~ hours on this so far. My issue is that whenever I go up against a Lawbringer, I get dumpstered - waiting them out doesn't really seem to work (I'm not reacting fast enough to block, I feel like!) and their punishes for any of my hosed up attacks is brutal. Any tips on that matchup? And there any character that's recommended for new players to pick up?
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Galick posted:Just picked this game up when it was free for June, and I'm loving it so far! I've mostly been spamming the Warden because their playstyle feels fairly intuitive to me, but I've got maybe 5~ hours on this so far. My issue is that whenever I go up against a Lawbringer, I get dumpstered - waiting them out doesn't really seem to work (I'm not reacting fast enough to block, I feel like!) and their punishes for any of my hosed up attacks is brutal. Any tips on that matchup? And there any character that's recommended for new players to pick up? Warden is getting a rework pretty soon I'd recommend Kensei for new players, he's fairly easy to learn and also has a lot of depth to his kit. He's an extremely viable hero in nearly every game mode too
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Galick posted:Just picked this game up when it was free for June, and I'm loving it so far! I've mostly been spamming the Warden because their playstyle feels fairly intuitive to me, but I've got maybe 5~ hours on this so far. My issue is that whenever I go up against a Lawbringer, I get dumpstered - waiting them out doesn't really seem to work (I'm not reacting fast enough to block, I feel like!) and their punishes for any of my hosed up attacks is brutal. Any tips on that matchup? And there any character that's recommended for new players to pick up? I personally find Warden is a good matchup against the Law Bringer, but it does require some good reactions on your part. If they try to bash you and can easily dodge and then shoulder ram them back. This also works when they try to use their light attack follow ups (when their weapon turns blue) but that’s a 50/50 cause they can confirm a GB on you when you dash. I would be very cautious about throwing out normal side lights as they are slow and the LB light parry punish is brutal. If they’re trying to do an unblockable attack a top light or a zone attack will usually beat it out, but you need to be on top of that. At the end of the day though it just comes down to practice and good feinting (in my experience at least)
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I play a lot of lawbringer and I often get dumpstered by wardens who just spam the shoulder bash. Classes who have a dodge-attack move like all the assassins and kensei can escape from the second or third bash-slash-slash but those without them just get to wait until the warden runs out of stamina. Or roll away to escape and eat the rest of their own stamina so the warden can just walk up to you and resume shoulder-bash spamming but now you have no way to escape.
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Jul 19, 2018 03:08
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Shear Modulus posted:Or roll away to escape and eat the rest of their own stamina so the warden can just walk up to you and resume shoulder-bash spamming but now you have no way to escape. If you want to have your cake and eat it too you can even use this trick: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOKlO-SjNtw which makes dodges 100% safe if you can react to their guardbreak indicator, basically turning the whole thing against them.
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Jul 19, 2018 13:30
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Speaking of Warden vs. Lawbringer, I ran a few duels with swordboy against a LB the other night, and it was pretty good stuff. Pretty even match skill-wise, matches were usually going into round 5, it was tense and fun. I think my favorite part was when the guy complained about how Warden was OP because his top heavy has "retardedly fast startup". 
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Jul 19, 2018 16:22
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The best feeling in this game is when you crush someone so hard they ragequit mid-execution, possibly only beaten by the kensei just faced who spent the last round running in panic from me after i took him from 100% to 20% in the first minute of the duel. Conqueror is my waifu and I will forever love her angry grunts and te affligam! 
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Jul 22, 2018 00:44
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I remember playing this in Beta and everyone said Conq would be super bad. How wrong they are
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Jul 23, 2018 16:08
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Conq was super bad for a long time, they've bounced between incredibly strong and completely ineffective, they're just one of those characters.
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Jul 23, 2018 16:14
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I suffered through kensei before the rework, I think i deserve to play a top-ranked class for a while.  But the reason i switched from kensei is i love everything about the conqueror, both her angry brutal in-your-face style and her mechanics, baiting with heavy into fullblock, superior block on heavy timings, opening turtles with shield bash. It's just so fun to play her. Speaking of, I am trying to include the charged heavys into matches now, whats the best way to use them? Another conq used them a lot against me but uuh i just walked forward and parried them. edit: And the ragequits after 1 or 2 rounds of course! 
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Jul 27, 2018 17:51
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Conq is probably the strongest 1v1 hero in the game right now, the toolset he has is just ridiculous.
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Jul 27, 2018 18:34
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Yardbomb posted:Conq was super bad for a long time, they've bounced between incredibly strong and completely ineffective, they're just one of those characters. I still really miss the range charged attacks had on release. But I guess Nobushi has to have something. Noir89 posted:I suffered through kensei before the rework, I think i deserve to play a top-ranked class for a while. Ime the charge attack is basically just bigger bait to use if you aren't hooking them with normal feints/whiffs. Maybe if you want to be greedy when you guard break them while they're out of stamina?
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Jul 27, 2018 21:06
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Theres enough time after knocking them down for that? Gonna experiment for a bit with them. I do try to not spam shield bash all the time, but certain matchups(lawbringer)it seems to be the only way to get damage in. Another thing that feels a bit dirty in infinite light chain against Assasins, since at least on my level they aren't that good at blocking.
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Jul 27, 2018 21:13
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I don't think there's enough time to guarantee it, which is why I said it's greedy. Don't feel bad about demolishing assassins, they deserve it.
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Jul 28, 2018 03:58
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Claim: Centurion is bad and inflexible, they are easy to beat, just don't get hit lol Fact: There was literally at least one Centurion in every Brawl I played this entire evening. I guess they just love getting demolished on their easily-countered character
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Noir89 posted:Speaking of, I am trying to include the charged heavys into matches now, whats the best way to use them? Another conq used them a lot against me but uuh i just walked forward and parried them. It's also a good parrying tool along with the zone attack. If you parry with a charged heavy and the enemy feints, you won't actually throw out anything for them to exploit. Remember to immediately feint to cancel your charge afterwards though! Noir89 posted:Another thing that feels a bit dirty in infinite light chain against Assasins, since at least on my level they aren't that good at blocking. Or at least it should but there's also this bug that makes blocking easy as gently caress with a static guard, even if you don't know about it. Did I mention this game was buggy as gently caress yet? edit: Noir89 posted:Theres enough time after knocking them down for that? Gonna experiment for a bit with them. Exodee fucked around with this message at 15:00 on Jul 28, 2018 |
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Jul 28, 2018 14:30
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Cup Runneth Over posted:Claim: Centurion is bad and inflexible, they are easy to beat, just don't get hit lol you get a million shugokis and raiders too and they're not that special either on the average pubbie's hands
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Mans posted:you get a million shugokis and raiders too and they're not that special either on the average pubbie's hands (Fat Man Apologist post) But the Shugokis are only there because the alternative is not playing Shugoki.
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Jul 29, 2018 08:39
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Mans posted:you get a million shugokis and raiders too and they're not that special either on the average pubbie's hands Raiders have pretty decent mixups after the rework and they're actually quite difficult to fight against, especially if they know how to parry. Not one tenth as frustrating as Centurion, though. Also Shugoki sucks, just guardbreak the fat man and cut him if he tries to do anything. He doesn't even have any followups for his own goddamn headbutt stun.
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Jul 29, 2018 08:56
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Because he’s Gief without the Command Grab. He needs that terrifying button that makes you alarmed to be near him, and the Bear Hug definitely isn’t it.
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Jul 29, 2018 09:34
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It's good and people never seem to expect it, but he needs either more ability to chase or the ability to punish you more for being close, yeah.
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Jul 29, 2018 10:49
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Did they buff Highlander recently? He's amazing now and everyone is playing him. Can't go a game without seeing him; he's completely replaced Centurion as the toxic ez win cancer pick. It's mostly the double unblockable grab, if I'm being honest.
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Jul 30, 2018 09:28
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Highlander's been top tier for a long while now.
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All of them I played against were pure garbage and never used any of these amazing mixups. Why is he suddenly god tier and there's one in every match?
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Jul 30, 2018 11:29
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There's always gonna be more random mashy dummies than good players, highlander doesn't do much in the former's hands and is crazy in the latter. When he came out he was probably the worst character, he just had nothing, then they reworked him a bit later and he's been great since.
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Yardbomb posted:There's always gonna be more random mashy dummies than good players Not my experience. Isn't For Honor a notoriously turtley game?
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Jul 30, 2018 11:37
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Cup Runneth Over posted:All of them I played against were pure garbage and never used any of these amazing mixups. Why is he suddenly god tier and there's one in every match? Probably new/returning players from e3 finally getting the steel to but him
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Jul 30, 2018 14:59
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Cup Runneth Over posted:Not my experience. Isn't For Honor a notoriously turtley game? Eh? Not since the parry changes at least. There are still some heroes who shine on counter-attacks more than anything else (lawbringer, conq maybe, really good highlander players in offensive stance), but not to a very noticeable extent these days.
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Jul 30, 2018 15:08
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Cup Runneth Over posted:Not my experience. Isn't For Honor a notoriously turtley game? Pc is much more defensive focused, the higher frame rates make it much easier to read and react to incoming moves. On consoles more people go hog wild on attack because it’s pretty difficult to react to 400ms moves at 30fps. I’m not sure what is better really.
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Cup Runneth Over posted:Did they buff Highlander recently? He's amazing now and everyone is playing him. Can't go a game without seeing him; he's completely replaced Centurion as the toxic ez win cancer pick. It's mostly the double unblockable grab, if I'm being honest. Worth mentioning that you can dodge the kick, and if you see the grab coming afterwards you can unlock and convert your dodge into a roll to get out of it. Highlander absolutely devastated me with that mixup until I got the muscle memory to roll away ingrained, but now most of them are no problem. There are a shocking number of people who don't know how to do anything with the character beyond "kickgrab mixup" and "that one top attack that feints into the side dodge attack". As far as the turtle thing goes, it's definitely a more effective way to play still. Every now and then I'll get matchmade against a Conqueror or something that will sit there until the heat death of the universe, doing nothing but going for parries and counterattacks. I can't beat these people. But more often than not I'll get one who shield bashes as much as they possibly can, or an Orochi mashing out lights like it's going out of style. They're food for my orders, but I'm on PC. 
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