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Probably my favorite thing about COC is that is captures just how frightening machine guns are, and how infantry combat usually revolved around them. This is something that a lot of WW2 skirmish games tend to get wrong - MGs tend to just be a bit of extra firepower. In COC, that enemy MG on the second floor of the farmhouse overlooking the field has a huge presence in your mind. Your turn will probably revolve around neutralizing it. MGs keep the enemy pinned down. MGs make it impossible to move over open terrain. You hold your breath while your opponent picks up the dice to shoot a MG at that squad that didn't quite make it into cover. You deploy smoke to blind MGs so your guys can move up. You use your own MGs to suppress the enemy while your infantry maneuver around. The pacing of the game is really impressive. The first few rounds tend to not see a lot of casualties on either side, with everyone at long range and in cover - You are mostly shooting to suppress the enemy and erode his morale. I need to play some more COC.
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spectralent posted:I know it's not quite the thread but, if you're into tabletop RPGs and you're interested in historical wargames, I HIGHLY recommend PATROL, by Newstand Press, which comes in Vietnam and WW1 flavours. It's a game about being drafted into a war you hate where the place you're stuck is miserable and everything is trying to kill you, and not going too insane despite those first three things. It also exists in Star Wars form, and somebody really needs to run a squad of battledroids as a convention one-shot.
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mllaneza posted:It also exists in Star Wars form, and somebody really needs to run a squad of battledroids as a convention one-shot. I somehow had no idea and this sounds amazing. Link?
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Geisladisk posted:Probably my favorite thing about COC is that is captures just how frightening machine guns are, and how infantry combat usually revolved around them. This is something that a lot of WW2 skirmish games tend to get wrong - MGs tend to just be a bit of extra firepower. Things like this make the game seem super cool, but the Bolt Action crew where I live tried CoC and basically shrugged and went back to BA. 
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Endman posted:Things like this make the game seem super cool, but the Bolt Action crew where I live tried CoC and basically shrugged and went back to BA.
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CoC also has a bunch of free army lists on their website/forum, plus a breakdown on how to make lists out of real-world platoon organizations. There are also excellent free supplements for the Spanish Civil War and Vietnam.
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The one thing about CoC that throws me is the support lists. They're absolutely a fantastic idea and a great method of avoiding the 'well i'll just take all the tigers I can' dickhead. But from someone starting I found it tough to have enough of the options to be satisfied with the rolls.
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I think it's part of the really tight focus on "an infantry platoon" that CoC holds. Having a Sherman assigned to the platoon is pretty rad anyway, no one's going to give a squad an entire squad of tanks. I do agree though, I sometimes wish it were slightly larger scale without being a full Company-sized game. I think the Big Chain of Command supplement could help with that issue, although ideally it wants to be a 2v2 scenario.
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Cassa posted:The one thing about CoC that throws me is the support lists. They're absolutely a fantastic idea and a great method of avoiding the 'well i'll just take all the tigers I can' dickhead. But from someone starting I found it tough to have enough of the options to be satisfied with the rolls.
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Does anyone know of decent 1/72 (or compatible 20mm) resin or metal streltsy models? I really need to expand my range. I have a solid core of the Zvezda plastic streltsy - around 300 men - and another 120 or so Strelets streltsy I picked up on ebay, but I need to add some variety into the mix, maybe some of their artillery troops in the mix, etc.
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Jul 31, 2018 06:03
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Torabi posted:I just realized that I've been misreading Too Fat Lardies as Too Fat Ladies so I was picturing some hefty women who were really good at making wargaming rules. I'm not sure if I'm disappointed.  They were British celebrity chefs in the 90's. The wargaming name is a joke on that. (yes, they are riding down a high street with dead animals on the side car. The wife and I caught a episode recently, and it was basically stodge the cooking show. nothing looked good to eat at all. the 90's were a dangerous time.)
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Grey Hunter posted:
Yeah, and they were called Two Fat Ladies, which of course became Too Fat Lardies. At least some of their cooking shows (?) were big enough to be broadcasted here in Sweden as well.
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Basically every name TFL comes up with is a wordplay on some British cultural thing. If they're not just outright vulgar. The joke is already wearing thin.
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spectralent posted:I somehow had no idea and this sounds amazing. Link? This was easier than I had expected to find again, https://www.patreon.com/posts/14624245
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Fish and Chimps posted:Basically every name TFL comes up with is a wordplay on some British cultural thing. If they're not just outright vulgar. The joke is already wearing thin. Nice username / post combo. Someone said there was a cold war WaT thing going on? Is that rumblings or official?
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Fish and Chimps posted:The joke is already wearing thin. I'm sorry this forum has made you dead inside.
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Springfield Fatts posted:Nice username / post combo. Someone said there was a cold war WaT thing going on? Is that rumblings or official? Speaking of which, did they ever produce I Ain't Been Nuked, Mum?
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Fish and Chimps posted:Basically every name TFL comes up with is a wordplay on some British cultural thing. If they're not just outright vulgar. The joke is already wearing thin. 
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Nooooo! I got this name by a mod in a random name change thread! My opinions on British dad jokes are still valid!
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Is there a joke in Quadrant 13, or is it just a Precinct/Apollo 13 reference? Still mad they didn't use the original title for that one.
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JcDent posted:Adorable My dying breath is gonna be gods own scale.
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Springfield Fatts posted:Nice username / post combo. Someone said there was a cold war WaT thing going on? Is that rumblings or official? I think there might have been a misunderstanding. Gale Force 9/Battlefront are doing a Cold War version of Tanks!, which people in the thread were discussing as a good source of WaT miniatures, but to my knowledge there's been no talk of a Cold war WaT itself.
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Speaking of playing CoC solo, are there any good game systems for the pre-modern (i.e. Ancient to Late Medieval) period that can be fun to play solo that way?
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If anyone here plays Hail Caesar, do they have any idea what the "Fierce Fighters" rule does? It's a rule in a number of lists in the second army list book (Late Antiquity to Early Medieval). At first I just assumed that they meant Tough Fighters but mixed up the wording, something which I've seen a couple times in these poorly edited books, but then the Scots-Irish list has both Tough and Fierce rules on different units. Since nobody really plays this game, searching online gives no answer. I'll probably have to send them an email.
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MeinPanzer posted:Speaking of playing CoC solo, are there any good game systems for the pre-modern (i.e. Ancient to Late Medieval) period that can be fun to play solo that way?
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MeinPanzer posted:Speaking of playing CoC solo  Anyway, TFL just makes good rules, even if you need to house rule some stuff for clarification.
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Ilor posted:Dux Brittaniarum is TFL's ancients game, specifically about the Saxon invasion of post-Roman Britain. I haven't played it, but it uses a card-based activation scheme that may facilitate solo play. But I've heard that (like most Lardie games) the real strength of DuxBrit lies in its campaign system. Anyone tried the campaign rules? Looking for stuff to play with my buddy with our dark age setup. Dirt Worshipper fucked around with this message at 03:39 on Aug 1, 2018 |
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6mm cold war miniatures. Hit me.
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DJ Dizzy posted:6mm cold war miniatures. Hit me. Scottia Grendel and Heroic and Ross. Terrible websites, highly variable quality, but you can hammer something together from the two. If you're not looking for late cold wars (the T-72s are terrible at both of them), I had bought samples of T-55 onwards from one or both of them, I could check them out for ya. GHQ is, of course, king shits of 6mm mountain, but they're dirty cheats, going 1/285 vs. regular 1/300. Their models are still more detailed than some Zvezda 15mm stuff (*cough* Abrams *cough*) and expensive, but it's actually possible to find a European seller.
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Don't listen to JcDent. He's angry at GHQ. Absolutely go with them if you have the money for it. They're tiny works of art. You can get them from the source if you're in the US, or from Magister Militum in Europe.
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Ilor posted:Like I said, it's magical. Ilor, if you don't mind, can I post this on my blog, with attribution? Fish and Chimps posted:Don't listen to JcDent. He's angry at GHQ. Absolutely go with them if you have the money for it. They're tiny works of art. Slander! I absolutely love GHQ and if you can build an army entirely out of their poo poo (to match scale), fukken do it, it will look amazing.
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spectralent posted:I know it's not quite the thread but, if you're into tabletop RPGs and you're interested in historical wargames, I HIGHLY recommend PATROL, by Newstand Press, which comes in Vietnam and WW1 flavours. It's a game about being drafted into a war you hate where the place you're stuck is miserable and everything is trying to kill you, and not going too insane despite those first three things. Forum's own actual viking shaman Tias is doing a CYOA of Patrol RIGHT NOW.
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DJ Dizzy posted:6mm cold war miniatures. Hit me. CinC is also pretty good. They have company deals for soviets, 10 tanks for $14. Their stuff is all 1/285 so it matches up pretty well with GHQ. The main difference between GHQ and everyone else is the level of detail. GHQ tanks will have distinct details like panel lines and vents and lots of greeblies, plus fragile add-ons like MGs. Not that other manufacturers don't have good details on their stuff, GHQ just had more generally.  The tank in green is a GHQ "T-74" (Got it because it was the closest they had to the T-72M at the time, the released their actual T-72M a month later  ). The tank in the camo pattern is a CinC T-72A. You can see the difference in details pretty clearly.
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So I totally forgot to mention that in my minis buying spree where I bought a bunch of GW stuff that I now want to sell off, a while after I did buy a box of PSC 15mm germans since me and a buddy were entertaining the thought of going into FoW. PSC seems to have grown quite a bit since I bought them like 5+ years ago but they still appear to be very popular. So I guess I might as well paint them once I get the chance. I remember choosing PSC since they don't have "heroic" proportions, are there any other good brands that you can mix with PSC stuff to create variation or is it better to just stick to one brand for consistency?
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We're playing a huge GdA battle right now! Also, I just got enough 15mm US AB to make almost a CoC platoon! I'm rewatching Band of Brothers these days to get inspired. 
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JcDent posted:Ilor, if you don't mind, can I post this on my blog, with attribution?
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Ilor posted:Absolutely. Thankee!
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What better way to spend the hottest Summer ever, than to get excited about fighting Nazis in the desert? One of the forces we prepare for our upcoming CoC/WaT games in North Africa are the Cape Town Higlanders.  Whaaaat? Scots from South Africa? Of course! Part 1 covers how I found out about them, and the various compromises I've settled on to be able to field some kilt-wearing gentlemen in the Libyan desert. https://krigetkommer.weebly.com/mediterranean-theater/cape-town-highlanders-part-1 Gonna try to blow through 64 infantrymen in a week or so, because after that I'm going abroad until our campaign is supposed to begin. Wish me luck, because I'm going to need it.  So... many…. Saffers... lilljonas fucked around with this message at 13:30 on Aug 3, 2018 |
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