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Leraika
Jun 14, 2015

Luckily, I *did* save your old avatar. Fucked around and found out indeed.
Can we stop talking about webcomics in the tabletop thread?

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LaSquida
Nov 1, 2012

Just keep on walkin'.

Leraika posted:

Can we stop talking about webcomics in the tabletop thread?

I blame Ettin and the new sin he plays midwife to.

SunAndSpring
Dec 4, 2013
Did any of you fuckin nerds buy Warhammer Fantasy RP 4e and if so how are you finding it so far? I'm reading the preview pdf and it's super rushed, I hope they can get their poo poo together because while I think the rules are a general improvement on 2e, there's a lot of weird poo poo that I don't know is going to be fixed or not before final release

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Leraika posted:

Can we stop talking about webcomics in the tabletop thread?

fine by me, no big loss

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

SunAndSpring posted:

Did any of you fuckin nerds buy Warhammer Fantasy RP 4e and if so how are you finding it so far? I'm reading the preview pdf and it's super rushed, I hope they can get their poo poo together because while I think the rules are a general improvement on 2e, there's a lot of weird poo poo that I don't know is going to be fixed or not before final release
I really hope they explain character advancement in the creation process in clearer and more defined terms.

remusclaw
Dec 8, 2009

OK, RPG's. Steve Jackson volunteered in a very short AMA on RPG.net that Girl Genius RPG is still in the works!

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

honk honk
College Slice
Runequest managed to be an RPG rulebook that at no point during my entire read of the rulebook did I even once think "that sounds really cool, I can't wait to do that in a game"

I wasn't really expecting it to be the Glorantha game I went with based on what people said here but it's sort of incredible how bland and tedious it reads. If it were my first introduction to the setting I'd think it was super boring and would be extremely confused about why anyone liked it

I usually enjoy reading RPG rulebooks even when the games suck but this one didn't even suck in an interesting way, it was just boring

e: my pie-in-the-sky idea is hacking Blades in the Dark to work in Glorantha but it'd be a ton of work. The core mechanics line up surprisingly well though, with the emphasis in the rules on belonging to a group, having downtime, and fitting into the world instead of being pasted on top of it

cheetah7071 fucked around with this message at 19:35 on Jul 31, 2018

Yawgmoth
Sep 10, 2003

This post is cursed!

Leraika posted:

Can we stop talking about webcomics in the tabletop thread?
In time, we can move past and heal from this topic

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine

Splicer posted:

Are we taking about Dobson?

CattyN

Funny thing is from the way people have talked about him on other sites, the consensus is that he was actually pretty well liked back when he was CattyN, but he pissed off a lot of people by the way he tried to move on from that identity, which continued to magnify because he quickly revealed himself to be a gigantic pretentious douche

Basically sometimes it's just not worth it trying to find a new niche for yourself

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 3 hours!

cheetah7071 posted:

Runequest managed to be an RPG rulebook that at no point during my entire read of the rulebook did I even once think "that sounds really cool, I can't wait to do that in a game"
Idunno about Runequest as opposed to BRP, but as for BRP...blank white printer paper is very useful and versatile, but I don't get excited about it.

Lemon-Lime
Aug 6, 2009

cheetah7071 posted:

Runequest managed to be an RPG rulebook that at no point during my entire read of the rulebook did I even once think "that sounds really cool, I can't wait to do that in a game"

I wasn't really expecting it to be the Glorantha game I went with based on what people said here but it's sort of incredible how bland and tedious it reads. If it were my first introduction to the setting I'd think it was super boring and would be extremely confused about why anyone liked it

I usually enjoy reading RPG rulebooks even when the games suck but this one didn't even suck in an interesting way, it was just boring

I was literally debating whether to pick up RQ or HQ before the DTRPG sale ends so I'm glad you posted this, because based on past exposure to BRP games I figured RQ would not be my cup of tea, and it seems like I was right.

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually
The thing about RuneQuest Glorantha is that the system is a throwback to a previous era (an OSR-ish desire to appeal to people who played and enjoyed the 1980s version of RQ) and that this is by design. Fortunately, Chaosium has multiple other systems for roleplaying in Glorantha, including a up-to-date crunchy simulationist system (a 13th Age adaptation) and a woo woo narrativist storytelling system (HeroQuest Glorantha).

SunAndSpring
Dec 4, 2013

cheetah7071 posted:

Runequest managed to be an RPG rulebook that at no point during my entire read of the rulebook did I even once think "that sounds really cool, I can't wait to do that in a game"

I wasn't really expecting it to be the Glorantha game I went with based on what people said here but it's sort of incredible how bland and tedious it reads. If it were my first introduction to the setting I'd think it was super boring and would be extremely confused about why anyone liked it

I usually enjoy reading RPG rulebooks even when the games suck but this one didn't even suck in an interesting way, it was just boring

e: my pie-in-the-sky idea is hacking Blades in the Dark to work in Glorantha but it'd be a ton of work. The core mechanics line up surprisingly well though, with the emphasis in the rules on belonging to a group, having downtime, and fitting into the world instead of being pasted on top of it

I dunno, I like the idea of running around and doing incredibly dumb nerd combat while throwing around lightning bolts and flying around nude.

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸

SunAndSpring posted:

I dunno, I like the idea of running around and doing incredibly dumb nerd combat while throwing around lightning bolts and flying around nude.
Please do not post my weekend plans thx

Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

my mum says im cool

Toilet Rascal

cheetah7071 posted:

Runequest managed to be an RPG rulebook that at no point during my entire read of the rulebook did I even once think "that sounds really cool, I can't wait to do that in a game"

I wasn't really expecting it to be the Glorantha game I went with based on what people said here but it's sort of incredible how bland and tedious it reads. If it were my first introduction to the setting I'd think it was super boring and would be extremely confused about why anyone liked it

I usually enjoy reading RPG rulebooks even when the games suck but this one didn't even suck in an interesting way, it was just boring

e: my pie-in-the-sky idea is hacking Blades in the Dark to work in Glorantha but it'd be a ton of work. The core mechanics line up surprisingly well though, with the emphasis in the rules on belonging to a group, having downtime, and fitting into the world instead of being pasted on top of it

I came off a lot more positive about RQ than you but it's definitely in need of a lot of fixing to be playable by anyone past 1980. There's a lot of cruft that needs to get removed, like the insane lethality and replacing divine intervention with FATE points or something, which I feel is doable but probably not worth it. The more I look at it the more I think it's not even designed to be played.

I also had the exact same thought about a BITD version, but I haven't got further than a couple neat ideas

Wrestlepig fucked around with this message at 23:37 on Jul 31, 2018

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012
There are two other glorantha systems that are way less old school.

Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

my mum says im cool

Toilet Rascal

fool_of_sound posted:

There are two other glorantha systems that are way less old school.

yeah I'd probably reccomend the 13th age version if you're all new since it's an easier introduction coming off D&D. I like Heroquest Glorantha but it's quite abstract and tricky to use as an introduction unless the GM is on point. Plus the rules aren't clearly written and a lot of people stumble on it. I have a couple snobby points about the 13a version but just having classes and a tight focus makes it a good starting point.

Wrestlepig fucked around with this message at 00:23 on Aug 1, 2018

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 3 hours!

FMguru posted:

The thing about RuneQuest Glorantha is that the system is a throwback to a previous era (an OSR-ish desire to appeal to people who played and enjoyed the 1980s version of RQ) and that this is by design. Fortunately, Chaosium has multiple other systems for roleplaying in Glorantha, including a up-to-date crunchy simulationist system (a 13th Age adaptation) and a woo woo narrativist storytelling system (HeroQuest Glorantha).
It's quite confusing how not every Glorantha game uses Runequest and not every Runequest game is set in Glorantha and Runequest is, as a ruleset, a particular iteration of a universal system which itself has multiple editions

Haystack
Jan 23, 2005





Halloween Jack posted:

It's quite confusing how not every Glorantha game uses Runequest and not every Runequest game is set in Glorantha and Runequest is, as a ruleset, a particular iteration of a universal system which itself has multiple editions

Technically it's the precursor to the universal system. Except for the versions that aren't.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53VX0uvZ-qg

Kai Tave
Jul 2, 2012
Fallen Rib

Exceptionally cursed.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

drrockso20 posted:

Funny thing is from the way people have talked about him on other sites, the consensus is that he was actually pretty well liked back when he was CattyN, but he pissed off a lot of people by the way he tried to move on from that identity, which continued to magnify because he quickly revealed himself to be a gigantic pretentious douche

Basically sometimes it's just not worth it trying to find a new niche for yourself

Fetish porn circles have way lower standards than regular webcomic/art circles. Which should say something given how low their standards obviously are.

Nuns with Guns
Jul 23, 2010

It's fine.
Don't worry about it.
Can we not talk about Dobson? You can just walk over to the chris-chan site or something if you need to stalk that guy until he dies for the dire crime of being a stagnant artist with a bad attitude.

e- reminder that BSS had a Dobson mockthread. Twice. The first time it was locked because the resident mockthread stalker posted pictures of Dobson's girlfriend. The second one was locked after someone snapped and went on a rant about how Dobson was to comics what a child molester is to children.

Nuns with Guns fucked around with this message at 12:59 on Aug 1, 2018

SunAndSpring
Dec 4, 2013
Please talk about tabletop RPGs such as Runequest Glorantha and how it kicks rear end, not webcomics.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Let's talk about the Pickle Rick board game.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Dangit Ettin

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Next step from games about pastiche 2000s webcomics: games about fictional memes from pastiche 2010s cartoons.

LongDarkNight
Oct 25, 2010

It's like watching the collapse of Western civilization in fast forward.
Oven Wrangler

Nuns with Guns posted:

Can we not talk about Dobson? You can just walk over to the chris-chan site or something if you need to stalk that guy until he dies for the dire crime of being a stagnant artist with a bad attitude.

e- reminder that BSS had a Dobson mockthread. Twice. The first time it was locked because the resident mockthread stalker posted pictures of Dobson's girlfriend. The second one was locked after someone snapped and went on a rant about how Dobson was to comics what a child molester is to children.

It wasn't all bad. I made Dobson cry after posting a takedown of his lovely political cartoons.

Ettin
Oct 2, 2010
Alright, that's enough webcomics chat.

Cassa
Jan 29, 2009

SunAndSpring posted:

Please talk about tabletop RPGs such as Runequest Glorantha and how it kicks rear end, not webcomics.

Glorantha seems like Forgotten Realms, lots and lots to read about, cool place for books, but what do you do in a tabletop RPG?

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually

Cassa posted:

Glorantha seems like Forgotten Realms, lots and lots to read about, cool place for books, but what do you do in a tabletop RPG?
Put together an adventure party and wander around the ruin and monster scattered lands of Prax and Dragon Pass?
Put together a team of Orlanthi freedom fighters and take it to the occupying Lunar Empire?
Create a Sartarite hill clan and deal with the season-in, season-out flow of life in Glorantha (KoDP-style)?
Get a party together and go seek your fortune across the newly-opened seas, or in a barely-explored hinterland?

It's a big, sprawling fantasy world full of monsters and weird magic and ancient prophecies coming true and mysteries and warring nations. You kind of have to struggle to not find something to do.

Moriatti
Apr 21, 2014

What's the easiest way for me, a baby-brained buffoon, to start reading about Glorantha?

SunAndSpring
Dec 4, 2013
The Glorantha Sourcebook they just released is pretty good. And of course, there's always playing King of Dragon Pass.

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually

SunAndSpring posted:

there's always playing King of Dragon Pass.
And now, Six Ages!

Reading one of the archived Let's Plays for KoDP seems like a good, fun way to ease into the setting.

My favorite introductory resource is HeroQuest Voices, a series of short (4-8 page) introductions to two dozen Gloranthan cultures, done in-character, and released for free: http://www.glorantha.com/docs/heroquest-voices/

Lightning Lord
Feb 21, 2013

$200 a day, plus expenses

Halloween Jack posted:

It's quite confusing how not every Glorantha game uses Runequest and not every Runequest game is set in Glorantha and Runequest is, as a ruleset, a particular iteration of a universal system which itself has multiple editions

What are you saying, that it's confusing that three of the seven versions of Runequest (RQ1, RQ2 and Runequest Glorantha) use Glorantha as the default while four (RQ3, Mongoose RQ and MRQII, RQ6/Mythras) don't? And of those latter four, three of them offer it as a setting? And even when they're not using Glorantha, the Gloranthan runes are a game element? How is that confusing!?!?!?!?

Cassa posted:

Glorantha seems like Forgotten Realms, lots and lots to read about, cool place for books, but what do you do in a tabletop RPG?

There's a lot to criticize about the Forgotten Realms but the lack of things for players to do is not one of them.

FMguru posted:

Put together an adventure party and wander around the ruin and monster scattered lands of Prax and Dragon Pass?
Put together a team of Orlanthi freedom fighters and take it to the occupying Lunar Empire?
Create a Sartarite hill clan and deal with the season-in, season-out flow of life in Glorantha (KoDP-style)?
Get a party together and go seek your fortune across the newly-opened seas, or in a barely-explored hinterland?

It's a big, sprawling fantasy world full of monsters and weird magic and ancient prophecies coming true and mysteries and warring nations. You kind of have to struggle to not find something to do.

These are good. From experience, the best hooks for people new to Glorantha, especially if they're coming from D&D are exploring the Big Rubble near Pavis in Prax since it's a giant ruined city full of weirdos, or doing Snake Pipe Hollow, which is basically a well-done, evocative dungeon.

Moriatti posted:

What's the easiest way for me, a baby-brained buffoon, to start reading about Glorantha?

If you want to see if the world is for you in the first place, probably the Glorantha Sourcebook which was funded by the 13th Age Glorantha kickstarter and intended to be something like a D&D worldbook (except without mechanics) for Glorantha to get people into the setting as opposed to hitting them in the face with the brick of knowledge that is the Guide to Glorantha

There are also good world overviews in 13th Age Glorantha, HeroQuest Glorantha or Runequest Glorantha depending on your taste in systems as described above.

(I'm linking to Chaosium's website because if you buy a PDF there you can apply the price of it to a future hard copy purchase. I don't think they do that if you buy it through DriveThru)

Lightning Lord fucked around with this message at 15:33 on Aug 1, 2018

DigitalRaven
Oct 9, 2012




Sorry to interrupt Glorantha-chat, but my first entirely-indie RPG just hit gold bestseller on DriveThruRPG!

I may be a bit hyper about this now...

SunAndSpring
Dec 4, 2013

FMguru posted:

And now, Six Ages!

Reading one of the archived Let's Plays for KoDP seems like a good, fun way to ease into the setting.

My favorite introductory resource is HeroQuest Voices, a series of short (4-8 page) introductions to two dozen Gloranthan cultures, done in-character, and released for free: http://www.glorantha.com/docs/heroquest-voices/

As an aside to anyone new, the Westerner perspectives in the HeroQuest voices (Esvular and Seshnela) are really outdated. They're no longer European style medieval knights, but more Iron Age Indian in style, with a strict caste system. Also Six Ages isn't the best intro simply because it has nothing to do with Dragon Pass (which is the axis the setting turns around, for better or worse). It is a treat for those who are sick of those drat Sartarites though, as the culture depicted worships a Solar Pantheon with very different values compared to the Orlanthi.

DigitalRaven posted:

Sorry to interrupt Glorantha-chat, but my first entirely-indie RPG just hit gold bestseller on DriveThruRPG!

I may be a bit hyper about this now...

gently caress yeah, congrats!

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

DigitalRaven posted:

Sorry to interrupt Glorantha-chat, but my first entirely-indie RPG just hit gold bestseller on DriveThruRPG!

I may be a bit hyper about this now...

Congrats, also I just bought a copy cause I'm super interested in seeing how people design RPG stealth.

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine
I'd say the best intro to Glorantha is probably the Prince of Sartar webcomic

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Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer
Recently I remembered I have the rulebook to Earthdawn 2nd Edition lying around somewhere.

Are people still playing this weird Elf game where the heroes are sometimes tormented by horrors from a magic dimension?

And what is the current edition, if it still exists?

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