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BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
There are also some files on the Imperial Klans of America, which was a bigger deal 10 years ago but maybe not so much anymore? I never hear about them. They hosted a Nazi rock festival on their property in rural western Kentucky called Nordic Fest and in the files, the FBI described a vicious assault by the Vinlanders Social Club (skinhead biker types) against a member of the National Socialist Movement:



Left out is that the orchestrator of the attack on the NSM members was Brien James, the founder of the now-active American Guard. Fun fact: James was planning to bring the American Guard to Berkeley for a right-wing rally this weekend (a day after Portland) but pulled out.

The NSM member who had his face turned into hamburger was Steven Boswell, who was attacked after giving a speech touting the NSM in which he threw shade on the Vinlanders by contrasting his group with "a social club where all we do is drink and shoot the poo poo every Saturday night." Bad idea.

This is apparently Boswell (standing, I'm assuming) at a later NSM party with swastika pies:



Here's a video from last summer from James talking about how to unite right-wing factions. What got him to make this video was William Fears ("what about the memes?") getting manhandled and tossed out of a right-wing rally in Houston by Oathkeepers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zr-GhBW-tco

quote:

"I spent over 20 years in the white-nationalist movement, most of that time in some sort of leadership position of one skinhead crew or another. I founded and ran some of the most extreme white-nationalist gangs in America. I don't want to get into too many details but I have lived a full life. I've been in serious trouble with the law. Every left-wing fundraising organization in America has written about me several times ... I started leaving the white-nationalist movement in 2007 of my own free will and my own terms. I didn't jump to the other side, I wasn't ran out, I didn't leave to appease anyone to try and make my life easier. I just decided the philosophy isn't for me anymore. I now consider myself to be what most people refer to as a civic nationalist as opposed to a white nationalist. I believe in putting America first, I support the constitution and basic libertarian principles and I don't care what race you are or much else about you as long as we agree on these principles. I also consider myself a member of the alt-right. I worked hard to put Trump into office and I enthusiastically support his nationalist policies."

quote:

I am a founder of a right-leaning libertarian think tank called the Sons and Daughters of Liberty. I'm a vice president of the Indiana chapter of the American Guard and I am the Indiana state representative of the Proud Boys and the Fraternal Order of Alt-Knights. All of these are American constitutional nationalist organizations that operate without any sort of racial or other membership restrictions."
The gist of the statement is that white nationalists should have their own events and stop trying to engage in entryism, the civic nationalists should stop disavowing the white nationalists, and they should have their own separate events unless they're confronting the "the enemy." He closes by saying that in the first time in his life "we are winning. Let's not gently caress this up." Unite the Right occurred less than two months later.

BrutalistMcDonalds has issued a correction as of 06:46 on Aug 2, 2018

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Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

коммунизм хранится в яичках

THC posted:

I don't understand the concern people have with "precedent" like obviously, clearly, corporations will take whatever they arbitrarily perceive as the path of least resistance to maximum profit at a given moment and consistency with past actions taken is a tertiary consideration at best

The thing that prevents this is public outrage that might hurt their customer base. If, after it's happened a couple times, the outrage stops, then it's assumed that there will be no consequence. Corporations are like small children, they will just keep pushing boundaries to see how far they can get you to let them go.

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!

Why is there a 1950's era older Italian mom holding a boom mic and sternly lecturing the skinheads.
Is this some advanced deprogramming technique or what?

"How many fuckin' times I tell you not to heil Hitler, yet ya heil Hitler anyways. Ya fatha's gonna kill you when he gets home, ahhh marone!"

fabergay egg
Mar 1, 2012

it's not a rhetorical question, for politely saying 'you are an idiot, you don't know what you are talking about'


it is so beautiful, that white supremacists are literally always as hideous on the outside as they are on the inside.

slippery doc
Jan 17, 2006

kill the boy,
save the man


It's like all these people learned about naziism from Der Fuhrer's Face. Oh so being a Nazi means everything you own is shaped like a swastika? Alright awesome I got this

Slugnoid
Jun 23, 2006

Nap Ghost

Taintrunner posted:

I very much do love the historical irony that after the Allied powers fight to the death in what they believe might be the end of human civilian on Earth, narrowly crushing the Axis powers by sheer unforced errors and overzealous brutality, all come home thinking a hundred years of peace awaits and fucks like rabbits, birthing the most retarded generation in all of human history that will almost certainly end human civilization on this planet as we know it.

ive got to go visit my 75yr old dad next week and ive got this horrible feeling in the pit of my stomach hes going to answer the door in a Q shirt

Slugnoid
Jun 23, 2006

Nap Ghost

Bro Dad posted:

also please make


the new thread title thanks

second

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Grape posted:

Why is there a 1950's era older Italian mom holding a boom mic and sternly lecturing the skinheads.
Is this some advanced deprogramming technique or what?

"How many fuckin' times I tell you not to heil Hitler, yet ya heil Hitler anyways. Ya fatha's gonna kill you when he gets home, ahhh marone!"
lmao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzC-ajqynG4

AceOfFlames
Oct 9, 2012

Epic High Five posted:

They are old as poo poo and driving channers crazy by posting sincere cursed Boomer memes all over their irony factory lmao

I'm so loving glad my parents hate Facebook (though my mom keeps sharing weird Brazilian videos about Chinese plastic rice or whatever on WhatsApp. I keep pleading/shouting at her to check her sources but she doesn't listen)

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:

starting to get a real queasy, nervous feeling about saturday. it feels like an escalation in so many ways. there's really no alternative to confronting the fash in the streets and making it difficult for them to intimidate and terrorize their targets, but... stay safe antifa ghost.
yeah who knows. it could blow up really badly. on the other hand, if the counter-demonstrators' plan works, then they'll bring out a lot of liberals and socialists. it could be like that one PP rally after the guy who attended their events killed those people on the train. a lot of people turned out and i don't think there was any violence.

here's an extremely tactical ms paint map showing what the terrain looks like:



patriot prayer (brown) is gathering at salmon street springs and bussing people in from vancouver starting at 10:00 a.m. last bus leaves vancouver around 11:30.

the coalition of anarchist groups (black) are meeting in the waterfront park which i'm guessing is that thing on the bottom left at 11:30.

the pop mob (red) of everyone else is meeting at the plaza in front of city hall at 10:30. the DSA is meeting a few blocks away at another park and marching to city hall at 10:30. then they'll march toward PP in a big group (i think).

now look a little closer from a different angle. PP is gathering HERE:



the lines are the directions of possible movement in and out. (i'm assuming PP's buses are arriving from the right since that's where they would come if they're coming from vancouver.)

on the left, this section of the park is buttressed by an old offramp from the hawthorne bridge that's been cut down and converted into a bicycle ramp. that's a solid wall. pedestrians can pass underneath the bridge to the rest of the park (farther left) but it serves as a barrier of sorts. so if i'm guessing right, the anarchists and the PP will be on opposite sides of that. the area to the right is fenced in and looks like an event space (like for carnivals).

PP will have their backs to the river but that's probably on purpose. don't know what the cops will do but my guess is an L-shaped riot line along the street facing both ways and to the left. if they do that, then it'll probably just be a bunch of people shouting at each other.

but if PP gets amped up on meth and kratom and decides to take off marching then all bets are off.

edit: i'd add that gibson changed the plan originally. he was first going to meet at the plaza (the site for a lot of PP events) but moved it to this location. also some pretty good sight lines for police sharpshooters on those buildings...

BrutalistMcDonalds has issued a correction as of 11:37 on Aug 2, 2018

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/documenting-hate-charlottesville/

my friend worked on the second half of this that's airing in october or something. the team was in texas tracking down the atomwaffen leadership thats in houston and the rest of the state. they heard they would be at a local metal show and ran into a few dozen of the. there should be footage of a confrontation in the final version. This has been a fairly common occurrence and I've been getting tips that these guys are showing up to shows the past few months. The venue owners haven't really done anything about it yet, but we're trying to change that.

atomwaffen and 4chan posted the socials and family info for the reporters a few days later and its been kinda weird since then. not sure what the fbi is doing, but probably not a whole lot given the leadership there.

https://twitter.com/ACInvestigates/status/999055930061926402

That's who she was working with, I believe, and they're still doing a bunch of work to find active duty nazis.


here's only coverage of it so far, i dont think the chronicle has enough staff left to report on it

https://www.freepresshouston.com/white-supremacists-need-to-stay-the-hell-out-of-the-houston-music-scene/

and the response from the neonazis

https://www.freepresshouston.com/accused-white-oak-music-hall-white-supremacists-respond/

the fact that white oak, a large venue run by former staff from the free press, let them in with those jackets is pathetic. jagi knows better and his door crew should have stopped them before they got through the security check. it shouldnt have been on the local music scene to do something about it.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Sir Tonk posted:

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/documenting-hate-charlottesville/

my friend worked on the second half of this that's airing in october or something. the team was in texas tracking down the atomwaffen leadership thats in houston and the rest of the state. they heard they would be at a local metal show and ran into a few dozen of the. there should be footage of a confrontation in the final version. This has been a fairly common occurrence and I've been getting tips that these guys are showing up to shows the past few months. The venue owners haven't really done anything about it yet, but we're trying to change that.

atomwaffen and 4chan posted the socials and family info for the reporters a few days later and its been kinda weird since then. not sure what the fbi is doing, but probably not a whole lot given the leadership there.
geeze a few dozen? no kidding? anecdotally i've heard about AWD migrating to houston after being doxxed elsewhere. a lot of nazis moving around the country switching up locations this year

Mariana Horchata
Jun 30, 2008

College Slice

Al! posted:

one of my good friends in high school was hinckley's cousin, he was ok but his family was nuts

im sure ive already told u about Pod Favreau too

in case anybody itt wasnt aware he's Jake Ryan from 16 Candles who has made a career off his parents who had connections in MA gov - namely John Kerry

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

geeze a few dozen? no kidding? anecdotally i've heard about AWD migrating to houston after being doxxed elsewhere. a lot of nazis moving around the country switching up locations this year

she said there were around forty of them at this show, but thats the largest gathering theyve seen yet. usually its just a handful

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Liquid Communism posted:

The thing that prevents this is public outrage that might hurt their customer base. If, after it's happened a couple times, the outrage stops, then it's assumed that there will be no consequence. Corporations are like small children, they will just keep pushing boundaries to see how far they can get you to let them go.

Nerds will absolutely never ever stop watching those Marvel movies, and I think Disney knows it

Slugnoid
Jun 23, 2006

Nap Ghost
some alt right gamergate rando at a games convention got his rear end beat and chased out town. no video of the beating but here's him crying about into a camera for six minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Yst30wdSzQ

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

A member of the Gygax...lineage...

How is that hotel room worth three grand?

Cheen
Apr 17, 2005

Gencon is the board game convention and it makes me laugh to think a bunch of board game nerds kicked this dudes rear end

My Crab is Fight
Mar 13, 2007
I hope WOTC keep his cards forever

Terminal autist
May 17, 2018

by vyelkin
Man all these gamer game adjacent movements are so loving lame, how can you even ration the mental processes to get that worked up what the gently caress

Reclines Obesily
Jul 24, 2000



Hey Moona!
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Terminal autist posted:

Man all these gamer game adjacent movements are so loving lame, how can you even ration the mental processes to get that worked up what the gently caress

https://twitter.com/jefferiesshow/status/1021910921407488000

totally not lame

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Terminal autist posted:

Man all these gamer game adjacent movements are so loving lame, how can you even ration the mental processes to get that worked up what the gently caress

Watching other people play videogames all day

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
they should call gab.ai Macebook

Reclines Obesily
Jul 24, 2000



Hey Moona!
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Slugnoid posted:

some alt right gamergate rando at a games convention got his rear end beat and chased out town. no video of the beating but here's him crying about into a camera for six minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Yst30wdSzQ

loving hell this is serious, first they came for richard spencer now they're after journalists

Reclines Obesily
Jul 24, 2000



Hey Moona!
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that dude spent his life savings on a hotel room for a tabletop convention and got chased out of town by SJW's

he cant even recoup the cost with patreon since hes banned from it

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

Slugnoid posted:

some alt right gamergate rando at a games convention got his rear end beat and chased out town. no video of the beating but here's him crying about into a camera for six minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Yst30wdSzQ

I randomly clicked on the timeline bar and he was saying "I only had gamers there to protect me"

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Reclines Obesily posted:

that dude spent his life savings on a hotel room for a tabletop convention

Is this part true?

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Reclines Obesily posted:

that dude spent his life savings on a hotel room for a tabletop convention and got chased out of town by SJW's



Wait, was it more then 300? Seriously, like unless you can find a cheap room or relatives, don't loving go.

Reclines Obesily
Jul 24, 2000



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who cares, it is now

Reclines Obesily
Jul 24, 2000



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i don't think the room was $3000 i think he is including how many days he paid for

Reclines Obesily
Jul 24, 2000



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hotelcostgate

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Wait, how much does this nerd poo poo cost? I didn't pay $3,000 for my car.

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

Corrections Officers are the people who wanted to be cops, but were just too racist and lazy to cut it.

darthbob88
Oct 13, 2011

YOSPOS

Thoguh posted:

Corrections Officers are the people who wanted to be cops, but were just too racist and lazy to cut it.
I heard an argument that one of the problems with US law enforcement is that specialization causing each agency to draw people with specific interests. Like, people join the FBI because they want to uphold law and order, or their local fire department so nobody else has to get burned alive. Which are all good, but this also means some people join the local Dept of Corrections because they want a good reason to beat black people with impunity.

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Slugnoid posted:

some alt right gamergate rando at a games convention got his rear end beat and chased out town. no video of the beating but here's him crying about into a camera for six minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Yst30wdSzQ

this dude claims to have identified the dude who owned him and is talking big game on twitter about how hes going to LOCK HIM UP

https://twitter.com/TheQuartering

pookel
Oct 27, 2011

Ultra Carp
So I somehow missed this, but yesterday the New York Times hired Sarah Jeong (tech writer, generally awesome person, Gamergate target, and I believe a former goon) and someone dug up her old tweets full of ironic racism against white people.

Her mentions are now full of what appears to be an organized right-wing troll campaign against this "racism" despite the same people regularly standing up for *actual* racists.

https://twitter.com/JoshuaCaudill85/status/1025058146300190720

I don't have a lot of faith in the NYT but they appear to be standing behind her for now.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

They’re probably not fazed. Didn’t they back that tech lady nazi who wrote opinion stuff defending her good buddy weev?

Radio Spiricom
Aug 17, 2009

https://twitter.com/antihateca/status/1025072246191255555?s=20

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

business hammocks posted:

They’re probably not fazed. Didn’t they back that tech lady nazi who wrote opinion stuff defending her good buddy weev?

no, they fired her

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Jul 24, 2000



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