Koil posted:

Koil posted:

Pixelate posted:

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Taintrunner posted:

This is unreadable if you’re on the Awful app with the dark theme, just FYI

The Titanic posted:

As a fellow member of the "maximum covert operations stealth ops team" I just want to confirm this story as accurate.

In fact just the other day I was talking with Jobbo_Fett as he was sanding some particulates from his wooden gun after an especially dangerous operation we conducted in places so dangeroujust talking about them here would put you all in grave risk.

"Nice shot, capping that guy from <redacted>! I don't think I ever saw so much blood before!" I said cheerfully, checking the sharpness of my whittling knife as I began inspecting my service issued SOCOM plank for damages.

"Oh I know. And when that <redacted> <redacted> came <redacted> <redacted> like one of those <redacted> guys I thought it was all over. Luckily," Jobbo_Fett said with a laugh, patting the blood soaked rubber band attached to the deadly cork, "I had this baby to protect us."

"Thank <redacted> for <redacted>! Otherwise we'd have had to swim up <redacted> and last time that happened the <redacted> had river scorpions crawling out of <redacted> giant, throbbing <redacted>!" I said with a jovial smile, sand papering my plank a bit more in preparation for the next secret operation op where secret operations have to be conducted.

Scruffpuff posted:

I can't keep up with the thread at the moment, but I have a question. Apologies if I've missed this, double apologies if I've missed a thoughtful dissertation on it.

So if their "in-game" currency is available to buy in limitless quantities from their store, how can anyone reasonably place a value on it?

Here's an example of what I mean. In World of Warcraft, you can buy gold through the store. Now since the game exists, and gold exists, and stuff in the auction house and other places are purchased with gold, it's relatively easy to decide if the gold is worth your money. Perhaps there's a rare mount up for sale, and you can drop $30 or something and get it, and that gold would otherwise take months to accumulate. You might feel that's a worthy tradeoff. Whereas if the $30 of gold barely buys you a healing potion, you'd say "gently caress that" and abstain. The economy, the game, the relative values of time and items can be calculated and you can make an educated decision.

Constrast CIG:

- No design for the game beyond vague notions of "a space game"
- Nonfunctioning models they're calling "ships" with no functions
- No design for functionality beyond bad flight
- No codebase for functionality beyond bad flight
- No design for any in-game systems
- No game loop
- No plans for in-game economy
- No value conversions for in-game currency to in-game items
- No "time to achieve" for in-game items to use for relative comparison

This is nothing more than blind hope purchasing. Buy "in-game" currency with an unknown value, that will be used on unknown items, at an unknown time, at an unknown price, to save an unknown amount of effort.

WTF is this poo poo?

Scruffpuff posted:

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In World of Warcraft, you can buy gold through the store. Now since the game exists, and gold exists, and stuff in the auction house and other places are purchased with gold, it's relatively easy to decide if the gold is worth your money.
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Scruffpuff posted:

I can't keep up with the thread at the moment, but I have a question. Apologies if I've missed this, double apologies if I've missed a thoughtful dissertation on it.

So if their "in-game" currency is available to buy in limitless quantities from their store, how can anyone reasonably place a value on it?

Here's an example of what I mean. In World of Warcraft, you can buy gold through the store. Now since the game exists, and gold exists, and stuff in the auction house and other places are purchased with gold, it's relatively easy to decide if the gold is worth your money. Perhaps there's a rare mount up for sale, and you can drop $30 or something and get it, and that gold would otherwise take months to accumulate. You might feel that's a worthy tradeoff. Whereas if the $30 of gold barely buys you a healing potion, you'd say "gently caress that" and abstain. The economy, the game, the relative values of time and items can be calculated and you can make an educated decision.

Constrast CIG:

- No design for the game beyond vague notions of "a space game"
- Nonfunctioning models they're calling "ships" with no functions
- No design for functionality beyond bad flight
- No codebase for functionality beyond bad flight
- No design for any in-game systems
- No game loop
- No plans for in-game economy
- No value conversions for in-game currency to in-game items
- No "time to achieve" for in-game items to use for relative comparison

This is nothing more than blind hope purchasing. Buy "in-game" currency with an unknown value, that will be used on unknown items, at an unknown time, at an unknown price, to save an unknown amount of effort.

WTF is this poo poo?

AbstractNapper posted:

People who still back Star Citizen and read these thread to see if goons will name drop you.
Don't buy virtual coin for an unfinished mess that won't ever be completed and will never be fun, you dolts.

tooterfish posted:

Religion does tend to take on a life of its own.

Roughly 5 minutes after the guy who kicked the poo poo out of the moneylenders dropped dead, the ecclesiarchy were selling absolution and sitting on solid gold loving thrones.

Koil posted:

Koil posted:

Correct me if I am wrong, I have not played WoW for years, but I believe Blizzard does not sell gold, it sells game time tokens.

The subtle difference being that this real money transaction does not create more gold to the economy - people have to pay for those tokens with currency they have acquired by playing the game.

In Star Citizens case each player account can dump two months of typical MMO subscription fees worth of gold created from thin air daily to the market, creating interesting challenges for the dev team to balance like hyperinflation vs mission rewards. I am certain CIG has already solved these minor issues.

Koil posted:

In Star Citizens case each player account can dump two months of typical MMO subscription fees worth of gold created from thin air daily to the market, creating interesting challenges for the dev team to balance like hyperinflation vs mission rewards. I am certain CIG has already solved these minor issues.

Koil posted:

Correct me if I am wrong, I have not played WoW for years, but I believe Blizzard does not sell gold, it sells game time tokens.

The subtle difference being that this real money transaction does not create more gold to the economy - people have to pay for those tokens with currency they have acquired by playing the game.

In Star Citizens case each player account can dump two months of typical MMO subscription fees worth of gold created from thin air daily to the market, creating interesting challenges for the dev team to balance like hyperinflation vs mission rewards. I am certain CIG has already solved these minor issues.

Daztek posted:

It's time for CIG to only sell ships for UEC now. People will first have to buy UEC and then use that to buy ships. No more refunds, ever, because the virtual currency has been successfully delivered!

Golli posted:

Do players have a way to transfer UEC to each other in game?

If so, this seems to be a fairly ripe mechanism for money laundering on a small scale (for now).

Account A purchases UEC using dirty money.

Account A sells UEC (at a slight discount, perhaps) to other users using Paypal.

Account A now has clean money.

and CIG has money.

Koil posted:

Cao Ni Ma posted:

extremely powerful bot

Koil posted:

In Star Citizens case each player account can dump two months of typical MMO subscription fees worth of gold created from thin air daily to the market, creating interesting challenges for the dev team to balance like hyperinflation vs mission rewards. I am certain CIG has already solved these minor issues.

ewe2 posted:

Satus frictione!

my hovercraft is full of eels Romani, domi fricabis!

let us go home bouncy bouncy Venite fricabis

we shall rub fricare sumus

let the rubbing commence tum utendum sit inchoare

begin the rubbing! nulla exulceratio incipiam!

my nipples explode with delight! et multa frictione opus erat

much rubbing was had multa frictione uti dictum erat

they will have been rubbed et illi inter se diutius fricta

we will have had been rubbing erimus enim fuerat in frictione praesidium

hello sailor scimus autem fricare

we saw you rub te vidimus fricare

you rub et fricare

you have beautiful thighs Credere non possum frictio levat, non!

star citizens rub themselves stellae sunt civium teras

Koil posted:

The Titanic posted:

I would say "sounds like a challenge" but this is the Star Citizen thread where I stay on my best behavior and remain pure and wholesome and riddled with fidelity.