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flakeloaf posted:Someone whose status hasn't yet been confirmed probably shouldn't be able to hold the door open for others but right now it's not so much a door as a tea-towel hung across a barn door opening. so really what's the difference Also you know here's a thought: Why not just like, let people move here if they want to? Immigration law is basically bullshit. Essentially the ONLY reason to bar someone from entering the country would be if they're like, fleeing criminal charges in their home nation (where such charges are actually justified and not politically motivated). I can understand the need for border controls for the sake of just keeping track of people, the same way we keep track of regular citizens with stuff like social insurance numbers and so on, but "no, you can't come here" should flat out not be an option.
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Vintersorg posted:The rich truly need to die. Or at least be injured horribly. How about a guillotine with the head hole shaped like a maple leaf and a roll up the rim head bucket.
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The Cheshire Cat posted:Also you know here's a thought: Why not just like, let people move here if they want to? Immigration law is basically bullshit. Essentially the ONLY reason to bar someone from entering the country would be if they're like, fleeing criminal charges in their home nation (where such charges are actually justified and not politically motivated). Is that not what we're checking for, and a big part of why it's taking so long?
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flakeloaf posted:Is that not what we're checking for, and a big part of why it's taking so long? It's part of it, but bear in mind that refugee status can also be denied because basically we feel like "you aren't actually in enough danger to qualify, so back to your country".
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Aug 3, 2018 01:58
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Lobok posted:Back in the 80s Northern Ontario wasn't all that much farther north than the 401. Seems like only a few years ago Barrie was nothing but a rural town in bumfuck nowhere that people only knew about because its where you got off the northbound 400 to take a piss or buy weed.
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Aug 3, 2018 01:59
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The Cheshire Cat posted:Also you know here's a thought: Why not just like, let people move here if they want to? Immigration law is basically bullshit. That's noble but probably a little bit too utopian to be practical. We aren't post-scarcity yet in many different areas. A 100% open door policy just doesn't make sense logistically.
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Refugee immigration costs resources over the short term, which makes it difficult to just hold the door open to everyone that's applying for refugee status. As a result, the government has to triage which people get greatest priority, and move down the list until their resources are tapped. Unfortunately, it comes to the point where the resources we have cannot meet the needs of everyone that applies for refugee status. It's not so much "you're not in enough danger" so much as "We acknowledge the danger that you're in, but these other people are in greater amounts of danger, and we don't have the resources to help both you and them."
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Aug 3, 2018 02:31
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We live in a rich and privileged country, we're not running out of resources to help people, we just have a lot of excuses.
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Ok, let me rephrase, the government agency that handles refugee claims has finite resources. While they could get more funding, it would require diversion from other government spending- which would send conservative media on a witch hunt- or increasing resources from taxation, which would tank any and all support the Liberal government would get.
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Just lol if you think oil isn't going to collapse in price
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Dinosaurtrain posted:Just lol if you think oil isn't going to collapse in price Then AFP Derek Filterbrand will promise to bring back oil and get elected over and over as Primier but spends all this time running all the gays and immigrants out of Calgary and into Edmonton. And I don't think Dipshit Doug would get elected as PM as head of the CP; I cannot imagine anyone outside of Ontario and Alberta voting for him. Even Alberta would be tough because gently caress that Toronto elitist.
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Harper being a piece of poo poo that was pushed out of Ontario's anus didn't dull any of the electoral enthusiasm for him in Alberta, I don't see why it would be a problem for Doug Ford 
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The Cheshire Cat posted:Also you know here's a thought: Why not just like, let people move here if they want to? Immigration law is basically bullshit. Essentially the ONLY reason to bar someone from entering the country would be if they're like, fleeing criminal charges in their home nation (where such charges are actually justified and not politically motivated). You're doing new immigrants a disservice not providing the resources they need to successfully integrate and obtain employment and/or an education. To be clear by integrate I mean obtain the basic working knowledge needed to live and work in a new country ie what their legal rights are, how to get a bank account and pay taxes etc. Ideally the state provides a basic income/job guarantee and these necessary resources, in which case by all means open the borders. That's not the direction we're headed.
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https://www.thestar.com/amp/news/qu...er-insists.html Pardon my sexism. MacLeod is a lying oval office. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Hey thread does anyone know a place where I can watch old episodes of The Daily Show (like the last year or so) online? Like, I know CTV you can watch the last couple weeks but is there somewhere (legal) where you can watch earlier ones?
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Aug 3, 2018 04:21
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Quebec is going to get Prime Minister Ford elected.
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Aug 3, 2018 04:27
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Everyone is going to swarm to the territories as climate refugees in 20 to 30 anyway.
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the territories are gonna be on fire by then. pretty sure there's an absurd amount of methane under the tundra.
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Also, it's poo poo soil, so hopefully you don't like eating.
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Amazon Prime flies to the Arctic bro
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And will they keep doing that when no one has any money?
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company scrip is kinda like money.
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toiling away in the amazon mines, thirty km from the poison gas-fueled inuvik hellfires... but it's prime day.
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There is no refugee crisis and it's loving shameful to call it that. We should literally disband this country if we can't come up with an efficient way to find to process the claims of people represent 0.1% of the current total population.
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Furnaceface posted:Seems like only a few years ago Barrie was nothing but a rural town in bumfuck nowhere that people only knew about because its where you got off the northbound 400 to take a piss or buy weed. No one stops in Barrie unless it’s the two floor McDonald’s on the sb 400 which technically isn’t Barrie Oh and people get weed delivered through Canada post via eDispensarys
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Risky Bisquick posted:Oh and people get weed delivered through Canada post via eDispensarys I've noticed that the one I buy from for has been reducing the variety of things they offer significantly in the last few months. I figure they are wrapping things up and clearing inventory out before the fully legal government sites come online. Govt will prob go hard to close all the grey market stuff after legalization. Was a fun year or two there, especially with the weed stocks boom.
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Risky Bisquick posted:No one stops in Barrie unless it’s the two floor McDonald’s on the sb 400 which technically isn’t Barrie That McDonalds closed in the 90s and I was making a joke about this dumb city from 30 years ago. If I was referencing modern Barrie I would say stop to get a naloxone kit on the way to the cottage.
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DariusLikewise posted:There is no refugee crisis and it's loving shameful to call it that. We should literally disband this country if we can't come up with an efficient way to find to process the claims of people represent 0.1% of the current total population. Refugee crisis is the guy in front of you at Tims that speaks a weird sounding language. If they didn't let him into the country you could have your 5th double double already! Also, Magic cards are going up in price due to tariffs.
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The refugee crisis is wondering why you aren't a millionaire. Must be all the refugees stealing your taxes.
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vyelkin posted:I was reading a book yesterday from the late 80s that was talking in its conclusion about the left's political problems in the Reagan era and the author explained it like this: the left's goals are to try and correct some of the power imbalances in our society by fighting against established power structures on behalf of the weak. Because we live in a capitalist society, many of those established power structures are economic in nature, and the way the left can fight them is with political power, i.e. the state. However, the right has been very effective at convincing a large part of the weak (i.e. those on behalf of whom the left are supposedly fighting) that the established power structures in our society are primarily political rather than economic, and so the left's proposed solutions seem like a further power grab by hegemonic political structures, rather than an attempt to fight back against hegemonic economic structures, whereas the right's proposed solutions (a form of "individualism" that actually amounts to transferring more power from the political to the economic realm) solidify those established power structures but have been effectively framed as fighting against them for those who have been convinced that our society's hegemonic forms of power are political rather than economic. Yeah but if I try to tell people that the state is useful to leftism's goals a bunch of people on twitter call me a nazbol tankie and proclaim their loyalty to anarcho communism. The Cheshire Cat posted:Yeah this is really frustrating to me too. Do we not have any mechanism to ensure that programs can survive the transition to the next government? We shouldn’t have to amend every single social program into the loving constitution just so that they can actually survive long enough to be effective. you can have programs like CPP where the government cannot touch the money from that program, and changing it requires a majority of provinces to agree (which is why CPP enhancement was actually a pretty impressive bit of political maneuvering on Trudeau's part, legitimately something no one cares about but he actually deserves quite a bit of credit for it). At the end of the day nothing is untouchable, but governments can try to make some programs more difficult to dismantle. of course there is a fundamental problem with programs like CPP and other major pension plans, in that they take money and invest it in whatever they can to see decent returns, and can be just as bad as any venture capitalist firm about undermining the rights of employees, or promoting harmful corporate practices as long as the big bucks come rolling in. But hey, that's capitalism baby Dreylad fucked around with this message at 13:49 on Aug 3, 2018 |
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Testikles posted:The refugee crisis is wondering why you aren't a millionaire. Must be all the refugees stealing your taxes. Refugees are causing the Toronto housing crisis. Premier Doug said it a few weeks ago. All those darn refugees, coming in Canada's backdoor and driving up the cost of our million dollar houses!!!!
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jfood posted:the territories are gonna be on fire by then. pretty sure there's an absurd amount of methane under the tundra. Permafrost has boatloads of it, as does the sea bed. Want to know what happens when the planet warms enough for those reserves to be unleashed? Look up the "Great Dying" extinction event.
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Wistful of Dollars posted:Permafrost has boatloads of it, as does the sea bed. One of my friends is an arch conservative and has kids. It'd probably kill our friendship but I honestly want to point out that he literally has sold out his children's future to be more comfortable. His kids will know famine, war, disease, and death all because he didn't like being told what to do.
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Wistful of Dollars posted:Permafrost has boatloads of it, as does the sea bed. Or Clathrate Gun
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https://twitter.com/HuffPostCanada/status/1025340552211034112 Abolish Canada
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Love my racist country.
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DariusLikewise posted:Abolish Canada 
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The funny thing is it has always been really, really racist and by the ~third generation after they were singled out, the formerly oppressed group joins the oppressors to gang up on the "new threat" I look forward to 50 years down the road when these new immigrant's grandchildren complain about whoever else wants to move here. I want to see a haitian/syrian on the CBC complaining about American border jumpers trying to escape the Barron Trump regime.
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Go read the actual poll, it's loving depressing. http://angusreid.org/safe-third-country-asylum-seekers/         quote:Notes on Methodology Not only is this an insanely pro-CPC issue, it's also one that apparently people are actually paying attention to. Dissolve this racist loving country.
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