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Corsair Pool Boy posted:One of them is lying, I guarantee he wanted to throw one of you out a window at least 4x a game. It's a rule. Yeah he must have been annoyed, but he's played again with us recently so it can't be unbearable! I think I'd find it too frustrating. He played different heroes each game depending on team comp, one as Samuro, some as Alexstrasza and one as Medivh (I died within reach of his portal because I'm an idiot). His mic is really really bad so none of us can really understand him which doesn't help. One game we played was really close and we were towards the end when we heard him say "wait why are you all top, we need to be at boss" and then the enemy team got boss and won straight away, he was just so baffled that none of us realised we needed to stop them because we were doing objective! (The usual group is silver and gold with one platinum so when I say we're bad, I mean we're really bad.)
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So I finally got around to playing Sylvanas. She is cool and good.
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Aug 2, 2018 23:08
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Meridian posted:So I finally got around to playing Sylvanas. She is not cool and good. Ftfy. Universal truth.
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Aug 2, 2018 23:17
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minema posted:Yeah he must have been annoyed, but he's played again with us recently so it can't be unbearable! I think I'd find it too frustrating. Yeah, at Diamond I play with friends in Master/GM and I would say the differences are pretty clear cut: mostly a) map awareness, way better understanding of where to be and when, with a helping of b) mechanics, but not insofar as you're making god tier plays, more your mechanically perfect uptime is just something closer to 90% vs. 60% of gametime.
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Aug 2, 2018 23:26
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Star posted:Ftfy. Universal truth. Trust me, I am terrible. I know what I am talking about.
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Aug 2, 2018 23:35
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Meridian posted:Trust me, I am terrible. I know what I am talking about. Sylv is an easy to play hero that gets a lot of value at low mmr (she's good till around early plat) but has a fundamentally low skill ceiling, and so suffers accordingly at higher MMR/proplay. She's a great character to build a solid foundation with if you're a baddie though. My only advice is against the most common misplay: thinking you have great waveclear and lane presence when you're actually on the lower end of waveclear compared to other pushers and you are easily bullied out of lane. Sylv as at her strongest when she shuts down mercs/minions/towers while someone like Sonya tears the towers down.
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god drat yrel is so busted right now she can carry basically any team comp. just won with triple warrior vs tychus. Who cares! Bonk clonk tinkle tinkle goomba stomp
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No Wave posted:KTZ is gratuitously hard, like Samuro and Illidan. Nothing wrong with having a few heroes that are challenging for their own sake and pretty good even if they're rarely 100% optimal. (illidan is mostly bad tho) I... I.... Wait What? (Although as a dedicated Medivh whore, I agree with the rest of this line, it's good to have varying complexities to reward people who want to 'learn' them.) E: Although, mentioning Medivh & Illidan (And Chen), if someone at Blizz could stop making it so that clicking a portal overlaid with a hero prioritises the loving hero, that'd be great, tyvm. Dying because Medivh stands there merrily autoattacking those two and refusing to go in the loving portal I just made gets old.
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Shockeh posted:I... I.... Wait What? KTZ is absolutely in this category. It's more likely than not you've never seen a proper KTZ combo. He's difficult because he's a straight long-combo character (this is precisely what makes Zeratul one of these high skill ceiling infinite potential dudes) except his involves comboing skillshots. If he lands everything he's one of the very few characters in the game that can literally delete (and I mean from 100%hp to 0%hp) a good chunk of the roster.
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I'd probably like him a hell of a lot more if Death & Decay wasn't a projectile AOE whilst Frost Nova and Shadow Fissure aren't. That's definitely one of his weird awkward things.
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Star posted:Ftfy. Universal truth. I hate Syl players more than anything. Syl on my team: Pushes up so far she gets ganked over and over. Constantly leaves lane to plink at camp. Rages at anyone who takes a camp. Says gg carried if we win. Syl on enemy team: Is totally ignored by everyone and I'm probably deckard cain double soaking
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Shockeh posted:I... I.... Wait What? I have fun playing genji (poorly but enough to do stuff) but I'm just never going to be able to react to enemy abilities fast enough to play Illidan properly. No Wave fucked around with this message at 01:32 on Aug 3, 2018 |
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illidan was great when he was the most mobile assassin in the game due to his stickiness and self sustain newer releases are definitely showing him up
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With the new skin coming out I’m going to go ahead and tank my queue times and give Stukov another shot. Any tips I should know? Pretend I’m a low-tier moron that has trouble juggling the offensive and defensive diseases.
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Dire Human posted:With the new skin coming out I’m going to go ahead and tank my queue times and give Stukov another shot. Any tips I should know? Pretend I’m a low-tier moron that has trouble juggling the offensive and defensive diseases. Press alt-q, w an enemy, e than enemy, press d. now they are super dead if you took the root, only sorta dead if not from the massive slow.
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appropriatemetaphor posted:Press alt-q, w an enemy, e than enemy, press d. now they are super dead if you took the root, only sorta dead if not from the massive slow. I’ll keep that in mind, I figure Lurking Arm build is a good fit for my playstyle anyway.
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Dire Human posted:With the new skin coming out I’m going to go ahead and tank my queue times and give Stukov another shot. Any tips I should know? Pretend I’m a low-tier moron that has trouble juggling the offensive and defensive diseases. Your teammates will always be too dumb to stand near each other and let the pathogen spread to everyone else if you cast it on them. If you use your Q on yourself, it will magically communicate the necessary skills and understanding to your teammates that they need to spread the pathogen. I don't know why this works, but it does. And it's not low rank bullshit, either - this is how it is at Master's, too.
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Kith posted:Your teammates will always be too dumb to stand near each other and let the pathogen spread to everyone else if you cast it on them. If you use your Q on yourself, it will magically communicate the necessary skills and understanding to your teammates that they need to spread the pathogen. Yeah, I only played him twice (in brawls), and by far the best way to do it is self-cast and move around. In fairness, I usually don't notice it when someone puts it on me, I assume that's the main problem.
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The graphic for being Stukov and having the heal virus online is much clearer than being a teammate and having it online. I wish it wasn't like that.
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I swear self-cast is worth about 1 league tier to anyone not using it Shout out to every Alt + W Zombie Wall in my lifetime career
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:illidan was great when he was the most mobile assassin in the game due to his stickiness and self sustain Yrel stomps illidan during laning phase.
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appropriatemetaphor posted:Press alt-q, w an enemy, e than enemy, press d. now they are super dead if you took the root, only sorta dead if not from the massive slow. I'm curious why you alt-q for the lockdown combo here? It means if your w misses you burn your bio kill-switch accidentally.
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DisgracelandUSA posted:Yrel stomps illidan during laning phase. yrel just generally stomps, she is really overtuned right now
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:yrel just generally stomps, she is really overtuned right now She got nerfed and her WR has dropped significantly.
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Mind over Matter posted:She got nerfed and her WR has dropped significantly. She still has the highest tank and solo lamer win rate last I checked
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thechalkoutline posted:I swear self-cast is worth about 1 league tier to anyone not using it I watched a TS guy's Ragnaros tips video, he actually uses the 'f' key to self-cast Rag's E rather than need to get his thumb involved for the most common use of the skill. I'll admit, I have a lot of trouble hitting ALT when I'm in the thick of things, several times I've missed and opened the Start menu (with the expected consequences in game when I'm trying to hit myself with a speed boost NOW). I need to get my gaming kb back so I can turn that off.
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Polio Vax Scene posted:I'm curious why you alt-q for the lockdown combo here? It means if your w misses you burn your bio kill-switch accidentally. Might as well have a heal out; don't have to pop your D if you blunder the W.
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Corsair Pool Boy posted:I watched a TS guy's Ragnaros tips video, he actually uses the 'f' key to self-cast Rag's E rather than need to get his thumb involved for the most common use of the skill. I believe the game has a setting to disable alt tab. Maybe there's a setting for the windows button? Galaxy brain: game on a Mac. Also, if you have alt tab disabled you can still ctrl alt del or ctrl shift esc to being up task manager if need be.
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Shockeh posted:I... I.... Wait What? Try force moving onto the portal.
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With no real "carry" position in this game, what heroes do you guys think have the most influence over a team succeeding or not? Like, everything else being equal, what class do you think is the best to solo queue as?
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I don't know what I'd say the best class is but if we're talking quickplay I think Nazeebo is the "safest" character.
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fadam posted:With no real "carry" position in this game, what heroes do you guys think have the most influence over a team succeeding or not? Like, everything else being equal, what class do you think is the best to solo queue as? It seems counterproductive, but I think getting really good at meta supports and warriors will take you a long way in solo queue. Most people expect they can carry as assassin, so you end up with a ton of assassin mains in solo queue in my experience. If you play a solid support you can often give your team a huge advantage since the enemy support is likely a "carry" player who was unlucky enough to get last pick. e. This is also assuming hero league Primetime fucked around with this message at 21:07 on Aug 3, 2018 |
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fadam posted:With no real "carry" position in this game, what heroes do you guys think have the most influence over a team succeeding or not? Like, everything else being equal, what class do you think is the best to solo queue as?
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Yeah in QM it's probably a ranged assassin with some form of escape or mobility, in RD probably support. There is something to be said for aiming to play off-lane in QM since so many people just want to fight in the middle. I've had games where we were up as much as 3 and 4 levels by 13 just because I hid in the bushes on the top lane and passively soaked while everyone else was slapping each other ineffectively in mid. Even if you don't go to that extreme, being able to not lose an off lane is a big plus in most QMs.
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Corsair Pool Boy posted:Yeah in QM it's probably a ranged assassin with some form of escape or mobility, in RD probably support. Yeah generally in QM you must be the equivalent of an ADC, though all the specialists tend to outperform in that mode as well. It's all about being all around good at most things on nearly every map. In RD it's all about filling your team's gaps. Always remember, as a rule of thumb soaking a full wave of an uncontested lane is roughly equivalent to killing someone. So if the entire team is fighting top or bot and you rotate and soak 2 uncontested waves while one of your teammate dies 4v5, youre coming out ahead by a good amount.
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thechalkoutline posted:Yeah generally in QM you must be the equivalent of an ADC, though all the specialists tend to outperform in that mode as well. It's all about being all around good at most things on nearly every map. In RD it's all about filling your team's gaps. There's a chart somewhere that shows that soaking full waves are worth more than a kill until about level 5.
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ToastyPotato posted:There's a chart somewhere that shows that soaking full waves are worth more than a kill until about level 5. Yea but the thing is soaking is infinitely easier than dueling some dude to death, and can be done across a spectrum of efficiency, whereas a KB is pretty much a binary moonshot unless you're playing Genji, et al.
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thechalkoutline posted:Yeah generally in QM you must be the equivalent of an ADC, though all the specialists tend to outperform in that mode as well. It's all about being all around good at most things on nearly every map. In RD it's all about filling your team's gaps. This doesn't stop teammates from tilting at you. I had one yell at me "WE'RE DYING OVER HERE" after I suggested they be a bit less aggressive because all they were doing was negating the XP I was soaking while they fought mid-lane 5-4. ToastyPotato posted:There's a chart somewhere that shows that soaking full waves are worth more than a kill until about level 5. Not to mention that when you die the lane is going unsoaked, so you're probably falling even farther behind.
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PantsBandit posted:Yeah and when you're playing Sapper JR he shouts "FOR ALL MY HOMIES!" so it's basically an auto-pick. oh gently caress you, I spent 10k gold on the razor fidget spinner mount and was waiting for the current skins to drop to regular triangle price for Diesel Speaker Nazeebo, but I have to grab that Junkrat skin (and buy Junkrat) first now. Goblin sappers were one of my favorite warcraft units, and suicide with sapper in dota for the same reason: even though everyone should expect it, you still catch people with their pants down all the time and cause massive damage and confusion. I was pleasantly surprised by Orc Johanna's new voice lines as well. Finally got a free azmodunk skin out of a chest and felt the same way about his voice lines too (and his hero specific mount where he puts Jordans on his spidercrab legs). A lot of the 1600 triangle skins really are worth it as long as you are going to play the hero a lot. They have a ton of little details that you only notice after playing many matches with them.
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Corsair Pool Boy posted:This doesn't stop teammates from tilting at you. I had one yell at me "WE'RE DYING OVER HERE" after I suggested they be a bit less aggressive because all they were doing was negating the XP I was soaking while they fought mid-lane 5-4. its a team brawler and you are afk in lane making us lose. reported.
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