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Bogus Adventure posted:It should have come out of their butts. If you're going to make a lovely episode, just go whole hog into it. just don't. have. anime. lasers. seriously i truly have no gripe in ds9 bigger than the pah'wraith stuff, which is of course intimately tied to making gul dukat some sucky weird doppleganger character
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I tried looking it up and didn't find that particular scene but I did find the 30 second trailer/preview for it and now I'm wondering if anyone has compiled all of those for any of the trek series. I kinda just want to watch all of those in a row. e: Apparently startrek.com has them, looks like I found a way to watch the entire series in ~1/120th of the time. http://www.startrek.com/watch_video/episode-preview-the-visitor dudeness fucked around with this message at 05:51 on Aug 3, 2018 |
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dudeness posted:It's from the opening song from Neon Genesis Evangelion, no idea who performed it so maybe that's right. Goddamn such an amateur mistake. I'm gonna go hang my anime head in shame.
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Bogus Adventure posted:Yeah, that's what I've heard. I might go back and give Enterprise a go, especially if it's on DVD so I can skip the fuckin' theme song that kills me each time I hear it. Amazon it. BTW, has anyone noticed that the Enterprise Opening matched this really good Anime Sci Fi Planetes's Opening ?
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Crowsbeak posted:Amazon it. BTW, has anyone noticed that the Enterprise Opening matched this really good Anime Sci Fi Planetes's Opening ? Planetes is way better though  . (It's also a legit-great hard-science space show even if you're not generally a fan of anime.)
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Ghostlight posted:Kai Winn is miles ahead of Rom (and most of the cast), but I would rule out the changeling leader based on the fact that the changelings are technically sexless. I don't buy it, the changeling leader is clearly presented as female, and Odo is explicitly referred to (and, I'm guessing, identifies) as male. Like, yeah sure, it would be sensible for changelings to be sexless. But this is Star Trek we're talking about. Pick posted:quark and grilka owns tho mega-agreed
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The Changelings are an odd case. It's implied that the Female Changeling isn't even necessarily the same blob of goo in humanoid shape from episode to episode, just a form that they've chosen to interact with Odo.
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Pick posted:just don't. have. anime. lasers. Clearly it's his cousin Gul Macet who appeared in that episode of TNG wearing that headgear.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I know everyone hates on the NX because it’s a flipped Akira, but I’ve always really liked it. They did a nice job making it look spindly and fragile, like something you could reasonably see NASA using in 100+ years. Imagine the hate it would have gotten if the producers had gone through with their original plan to just use the Akira without any changes at all.
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EvilTaytoMan posted:Clearly it's his cousin Gul Macet who appeared in that episode of TNG wearing that headgear. Even in the future, braces are a bitch
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Ghost Leviathan posted:The Changelings are an odd case. It's implied that the Female Changeling isn't even necessarily the same blob of goo in humanoid shape from episode to episode, just a form that they've chosen to interact with Odo. I believe it is the same one after they mine the wormhole. She seems to be the designated leader while any other founders that show up are infiltrators. There is also the practicality of just having one actor on call who doesn't mind the make-up process. DS9 had enough recasting issues due to alien make-up that I'm sure they were glad to be able to keep someone involved who wasn't getting regular cast pay.
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Pick posted:Oh word? Like who? Off the top of my head they had to recast the actress who played Quark and Rom's mother because she was uncomfortable in the make-up. From what I read both the actress and the producers were upset that she couldn't continue but working under all that latex has to be a pain in the rear end.
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Dukat’s daughter had like 3 actresses too. Not sure if it was because of that though.
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Jedi Knight Luigi posted:Dukat’s daughter had like 3 actresses too. Not sure if it was because of that though. I know one of the actress changes was because the actress was, or at the very least, really looked like, a teenager and they didn't want to make Garak look like a creep. We can't have that sort of thing associated with Star Trek, after all.
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She just had a Rascals transporter accident that week. When Enterprise had the same problem they broadcast how to fix it.
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I'm watching the like 7 part or whatever DS9 finale for the first time in a really long time. Odo leaves a sample for Bashir to study, and earlier the female changling does the same thing. But earlier in the series, she explains that the only thing that defines a changling as an individual is being physically separated from other changlings. Also, we know from the Dr. Mora episodes that a changling's mass is tied to their development at maturity. Does that mean they both briefly created a new individual that was similar to a newborn infant and then later reabsorbed them?
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I keep seeing people online say the Ferengi episodes of DS9 sucked, and every single person with that opinion is a cop
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Danaru posted:I keep seeing people online say the Ferengi episodes of DS9 sucked, and every single person with that opinion is a cop They're worse than cops
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Danaru posted:I keep seeing people online say the Ferengi episodes of DS9 sucked, and every single person with that opinion is a cop Some of them are good, like Little Green Men and The Magnificent Ferengi.
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Profit and Lace is the only bad Ferengi episode
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House of Quark NEEDS to be a 2000s Disney teen sitcom. Quark runs a hotel and his half Cardassian and half Klingon sons he didn't know about both move in to help run the place. Mr Tuvok is the concierge and doesn't bridge any nonsense from the mischievous teens, but they are always getting one over on him.
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Got your rad stickers Pick. Thank you for leaving me alive after brutally sodomizing me. The large cactus you used that I've had since I was in grade school didn't make it though. Worth it. 
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Trast posted:Off the top of my head they had to recast the actress who played Quark and Rom's mother because she was uncomfortable in the make-up. From what I read both the actress and the producers were upset that she couldn't continue but working under all that latex has to be a pain in the rear end. Actually that was just a simple last-minute casting conflict. The heavy makeup was pretty bad for her, but Andrea Martin was all for it. counterfeitsaint posted:I'm watching the like 7 part or whatever DS9 finale for the first time in a really long time. Odo leaves a sample for Bashir to study, and earlier the female changling does the same thing. But earlier in the series, she explains that the only thing that defines a changling as an individual is being physically separated from other changlings. Also, we know from the Dr. Mora episodes that a changling's mass is tied to their development at maturity. Does that mean they both briefly created a new individual that was similar to a newborn infant and then later reabsorbed them? There's probably a minimum-quantity requirement for it to coalesce into its own "newborn" changeling. When she says "the ocean becomes a drop" she's talking metaphorically. Even more literally, a changling's mass is pretty much a drop in the ocean for the Great Link. Neddy Seagoon fucked around with this message at 03:41 on Aug 4, 2018 |
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Quark is the best character on the show
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Quark was played by the best actor on the show, and this opinion is based solely on how Armin seemed so very comfortable with the teeth and ears. The best character was Dukat before he got space devils. Renegade Dukat in his stolen Klingon ship was cool. ramenpower fucked around with this message at 06:04 on Aug 4, 2018 |
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Actually that was just a simple last-minute casting conflict. The heavy makeup was pretty bad for her, but Andrea Martin was all for it. I must be confusing her with another actor or story.
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Bogus Adventure posted:Totally. This is what I was hoping Enterprise would be about. When they first announced that they were going to do a prequel series, I was super-excited. I was expecting them to finally do stuff with the other Federation members, like Andorians and Tellarites. Then they decided to go with the temporal cold war. That is what made me check out of the series. I'm glad that they eventually realized nobody cared about the Xindi, but it's such a shame because that show could have been really special if they started with the birth of the Federation right from the get-go. Enterprise is just the king of wasted opportunity, even moreso than Voyager. Here we had a starship--an experimental one, at that--going into space, truly going where no one had gone before. Instead we got loving Klingons, Vulcans being assholes, phasers becoming phase pistols, shields becoming "polarized hull plating" or whatever the gently caress, missiles instead of photon torpedoes, Romulans (but LOL we don't see them), the loving Borg, and the main triumvirate being yet again the captain, a Vulcan and a southerner. And I know the fourth season was regarded as a breath of fresh air after Berman and Braga handed Manny Coto a massive "gently caress you" by ending the third season with the Alien Space Nazis reveal, but in retrospect it's filled with so, so, so much goddamn fanwank that it's nauseating. Shran is the lone bright spot.
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Timby posted:Enterprise is just the king of wasted opportunity, even moreso than Voyager. Here we had a starship--an experimental one, at that--going into space, truly going where no one had gone before. Instead we got loving Klingons, Vulcans being assholes, phasers becoming phase pistols, shields becoming "polarized hull plating" or whatever the gently caress, missiles instead of photon torpedoes, Romulans (but LOL we don't see them), the loving Borg, and the main triumvirate being yet again the captain, a Vulcan and a southerner. Oh poo poo, that never occurred to me about Archer, T'Pol, and Trip. loving lol. I remember when I heard about Enterprise coming out I was kind of relieved because Trek had gone overboard with technobabble and time travel bullshit. I thought the 22nd Century would get them away from it. Boy was I wrong. The fanservice poo poo was awful. I know Star Trek always had a bit of it, but the blue gel poo poo, the get the guys topless, and stick the no-nonsense Vulcan in a catsuit was a new low.
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Bogus Adventure posted:stick the no-nonsense Vulcan in a catsuit was a new low. That poo poo was especially egregious. Jolene Blalock was and is a Star Trek turbonerd, and has been ever since she was a little kid (she tells stories about dressing up as a female Spock and pretending her bedroom was the Enterprise bridge). And then they cast her and made her character a sex kitten. I admire her for calling out Berman and Braga for pulling their typical bullshit and making "These Are the Voyages..." the series finale. Coto, for all his dumbass ideas, was at least smart enough to smell scamboogery and figured they'd pull some poo poo at the end of the season (which Paramount had made explicitly clear was going to be the last unless the ratings rebounded to, like, TNG levels) and wrote "Terra Prime" as his series finale. Timby fucked around with this message at 07:38 on Aug 4, 2018 |
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Timby posted:That poo poo was especially egregious. Jolene Blalock was and is a Star Trek turbonerd, and has been ever since she was a little kid (she tells stories about dressing up as a female Spock and pretending her bedroom was the Enterprise bridge). And then they cast her and made her character a sex kitten. Don't forget that as of Season 3 she's a Starfleet officer and they still stick her in a different-coloured catsuit.
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Temper Trudeau posted:Quark was played by the best actor on the show, and this opinion is based solely on how Armin seemed so very comfortable with the teeth and ears. Mostly agreed, agreed.
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Timby posted:That poo poo was especially egregious. Jolene Blalock was and is a Star Trek turbonerd, and has been ever since she was a little kid (she tells stories about dressing up as a female Spock and pretending her bedroom was the Enterprise bridge). And then they cast her and made her character a sex kitten. gently caress Berman and Braga. I'm glad Blalock is still a Trekkie despite her experiences.
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Bogus Adventure posted:gently caress Berman and Braga. I'm glad Blalock is still a Trekkie despite her experiences. She's really quite genial in person. But don't bring up Braga with her; holy poo poo does she hate him. Connor Trinneer is also basically the nicest guy in the world next to Bakula. But mention "These Are the Voyages..." and he looks like he wants to puke right then and there. Even Frakes practically spits at the mention of the episode and has said he regrets doing it. Edit: I just remembered that in addition to wanting to do poo poo like explain the origin of the Borg Queen in his hypothetical fifth season (Alice Krige would have been an Enterprise scientist who was assimilated by the Borg, who were so impressed by her intellect that they made her their queen), Manny Coto decided he had to explain the genesis of Section 31 in season 4 of Enterprise. God, gently caress you, Coto. Timby fucked around with this message at 09:30 on Aug 4, 2018 |
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Timby posted:She's really quite genial in person. But don't bring up Braga with her; holy poo poo does she hate him. I don't know how I managed to end up watching it. I think I heard that Enterprise was ending and I caught the last half of the episode. The whole TNG thing with Frakes and Sirtis getting a chance to steal the show was a lot like Berman saying, "Remember this really good show that I did? Wow, that was great, wasn't it? Not like this show that is getting canceled for reasons you totally shouldn't pin on me."
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