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EimiYoshikawa posted:Ugh, it feels wrong to ask this, but I couldn't help it springing into my head with that observation. What with being a Titanic buff from childhood pre-movie onward. e: The Titanic was about 1500? The Bismarck was a bigger loss. The big problem I think is that most ships just didn't have more than a couple thousand people on them, tops, until modern cruise ships, and even those I think are built to not just flop over and drown. Nessus fucked around with this message at 00:53 on Aug 4, 2018 |
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Bismarck's the bigger loss, for sure, but the Titanic is way more famous. More people remember it, which (I think) makes the whole ship like a giant Anchor for the people who died on board and who didn't pass on. I imagine any Sin-Eater who decides to visit the Titanic is going to have a bad time.
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Aug 4, 2018 01:54
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Goddammit. Can we get to the Vampire equivalent of Paranoia XP where we just pretend the Bad Edition never happened? https://twitter.com/HoldenShearer/status/1025423793601306624?s=19
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Aug 4, 2018 01:59
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Slimnoid posted:Bismarck's the bigger loss, for sure, but the Titanic is way more famous. More people remember it, which (I think) makes the whole ship like a giant Anchor for the people who died on board and who didn't pass on.
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Aug 4, 2018 02:02
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oh god the replies make it even worse somehow https://twitter.com/HoldenShearer/status/1025536638930247680
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Aug 4, 2018 02:02
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A Beast I am, lest I cease thence to cum
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Aug 4, 2018 02:04
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It's like nuWW thought to themselves "Man we were super edgy in the 90s, how can we be edgy now?" and are doing it in the most tone-deaf, hamfisted way possible
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Aug 4, 2018 02:07
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I'll admit, as bad as it was looking, I was expecting at least a little more interest, even if it was just bitching. It seems like its barely gotten noticed. Admittedly, a big chunk of that is probably Paizo selling pathfinder second edition playtest rules at gencon this year.
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Aug 4, 2018 02:15
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Naturally 'sure, vampires can have sex but it's not as good as drinking blood' is from Requiem and EW no storygames here.
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Aug 4, 2018 02:18
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Pope Guilty posted:Goddammit. Can we get to the Vampire equivalent of Paranoia XP where we just pretend the Bad Edition never happened? ...you are literally the worst person to be calling them on this, holden.
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Aug 4, 2018 02:21
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Kurieg posted:...you are literally the worst person to be calling them on this, holden. Surely there are multitudinous even worse RPG authors, because hell.
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Aug 4, 2018 02:24
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Holden has me blocked so I have no idea what's going on, but from context i assume it involves sexual misconduct because holden covered for and excused and still actively plays apologist for the sexual harassment performed by his friend, cowriter and fellow scumbag, John Morke
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Aug 4, 2018 02:30
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Cool, so nuWW is trying to push unwanted, unprotected sex at their sex castle LARPs.
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Aug 4, 2018 02:38
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Mors Rattus posted:Holden has me blocked so I have no idea what's going on, but from context i assume it involves sexual misconduct Holden "elaborate mechanics for rape-ghosts" Shearer is calling out VtM 5e for having mechanics for pressuring people to do things they weren't originally OK with during sexual encounters.
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Aug 4, 2018 02:53
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Kurieg posted:...you are literally the worst person to be calling them on this, holden. it's really loving funny that even mr rape ghosts can look at this and go 'wait...this is rapey', at least. It's like how Ollie North goes on Fox to accuse democrats of loving terrorists, like, yea I guess you ARE the expert here so thanks for weighing in...
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Aug 4, 2018 02:57
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Holden did, eventually, decide that ravishing specters were a terrible idea before actually publishing a book with them in it, so he does in fact have a leg up on this guy. (although, before you say it for me, he sure did give himself plenty of time hyuk hyuk)
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Aug 4, 2018 03:00
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So does the orgasm rule apply to the orgasm in general or just to the, you know, nut? Can vampires below Humanity 8 spend blood or is this an either/or proposition? Are the Sabbat now the  ?
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Aug 4, 2018 03:01
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yea wait, what the gently caress does a vampire nut, that's an actual not-minor question they just introduced for literally no reason. Like, unless blood points can force internal bits to suddenly spring to life, which was never a thing unless I'm forgetting something, we're still working with the 'Vampire gutty-works are entirely Vitae powered', they cry bloody tears and all that jazz. So does a vampire just nut blood in some poor rando mortal?
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Aug 4, 2018 03:06
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LatwPIAT posted:Holden "elaborate mechanics for rape-ghosts" Shearer is calling out VtM 5e for having mechanics for pressuring people to do things they weren't originally OK with during sexual encounters. Now, see, that was just bodice-ripping.
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Aug 4, 2018 03:15
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sexpig by night posted:yea wait, what the gently caress does a vampire nut, that's an actual not-minor question they just introduced for literally no reason. Like, unless blood points can force internal bits to suddenly spring to life, which was never a thing unless I'm forgetting something, we're still working with the 'Vampire gutty-works are entirely Vitae powered', they cry bloody tears and all that jazz. I'm pretty sure this was actually addressed in 2e or revised, I think in one of the companion books but maybe a core. The blush of life allows vampires to produce reasonable facsimiles of any human excretion. The same sidebar, if I'm remembering correctly, is like "technically by our dumb rules, a vampire wouldn't have saliva that wasn't just clotting blood without spending BP every scene for blush of life, but that's dumb so don't think too hard about it."
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Aug 4, 2018 03:20
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If you ever find yourself writing mechanics for sex you've gone too far. Step back.
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Aug 4, 2018 03:21
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he's still best buds with a guy who did actual real life bad sex poo poo which is roughly 1000% worse than having it be in a tabletop roleplaying game
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Aug 4, 2018 03:22
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sexpig by night posted:yea wait, what the gently caress does a vampire nut, that's an actual not-minor question they just introduced for literally no reason. Like, unless blood points can force internal bits to suddenly spring to life, which was never a thing unless I'm forgetting something, we're still working with the 'Vampire gutty-works are entirely Vitae powered', they cry bloody tears and all that jazz. Clearly content for the Storyteller's Guide.
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Aug 4, 2018 04:32
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Remember the requiem mechanics that said vampires cant make real art
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Aug 4, 2018 04:33
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So as the day looms ever closer to be finally being properly able to run my Mage campaign that I swear I'll get around to, people who actually run it: When it comes time to do full proper spellcasting, do you actually... go through the full rules? Do you have, like, homemade reference charts printed out somewhere? Do you get everyone on their smartphones using the webapp to do the arithmetic? Or are you all just handwaving it every time?
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Aug 4, 2018 04:38
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bewilderment posted:So as the day looms ever closer to be finally being properly able to run my Mage campaign that I swear I'll get around to, people who actually run it: It's really not that bad once you get a sense for the factors. That being said, unless it's a major spell they've been planning for a while my players rarely compose a spell without me walking them through their intent and the best way to do that. And yeah if a spell doesn't deserve that degree of construction narratively, just simplify it, make the roll and move on.
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Aug 4, 2018 04:59
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I see people complaining about the art and the content so I'm going to be unique and complain about the layout. This three-column poo poo is an actual atrocity. There are sidebars taking up a whole half-page surrounded by whitespace. There are full page pictures with weird margins. The art isn't good but it would be passable in any indie release. The layout is amateur as gently caress.
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Aug 4, 2018 05:02
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bewilderment posted:So as the day looms ever closer to be finally being properly able to run my Mage campaign that I swear I'll get around to, people who actually run it: There's a handy couple pages at the end that I made copies of so we could write on them (pps 325-328). Saying that, we do plenty of hand waving in non-critical moments because they could just try again anyway. I concern myself with worrying when we have to concern ourselves with paradox or we're in a situation where failure carries consequence.
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Aug 4, 2018 05:24
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tatankatonk posted:Remember the requiem mechanics that said vampires cant make real art
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Pope Guilty posted:Goddammit. Can we get to the Vampire equivalent of Paranoia XP where we just pretend the Bad Edition never happened? I know the answer is 'mature roleplaying' but the gently caress kind of games these people running? You're a vampire, you don't need explicit rules for being a rapist.
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Aug 4, 2018 05:31
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Zereth posted:As a person who doesn't own Requiem, no, I don't, but I wish to learn more! Masquerade suggests vampires may not be able to create real art, but based on the fiction it seemed like Toreadors couldn't. Malkavians could.
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sexpig by night posted:yea wait, what the gently caress does a vampire nut, that's an actual not-minor question they just introduced for literally no reason. Like, unless blood points can force internal bits to suddenly spring to life, which was never a thing unless I'm forgetting something, we're still working with the 'Vampire gutty-works are entirely Vitae powered', they cry bloody tears and all that jazz. 15th-Generation vampires could have kids, dhampirs. Unlike Dhampyrs, the children of high-Yang Kuei-Jins.
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MonsieurChoc posted:15th-Generation vampires could have kids, dhampirs. What
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Relevant Tangent posted:I know the answer is 'mature roleplaying' but the gently caress kind of games these people running? You're a vampire, you don't need explicit rules for being a rapist. they do if they want to run sex-larps with those rules
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Aug 4, 2018 08:03
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Relevant Tangent posted:I know the answer is 'mature roleplaying' but the gently caress kind of games these people running? You're a vampire, you don't need explicit rules for being a rapist. 
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Aug 4, 2018 09:08
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bewilderment posted:So as the day looms ever closer to be finally being properly able to run my Mage campaign that I swear I'll get around to, people who actually run it: I handwave it most of the time unless I'm feeling like being a stickler for something. It's a hell of a lot of to keep up with.
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Aug 4, 2018 10:32
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LatwPIAT posted:Holden "elaborate mechanics for rape-ghosts" Shearer is calling out VtM 5e for having mechanics for pressuring people to do things they weren't originally OK with during sexual encounters. The "hiding the fact that you aren't using a condom" and "vampires prefer not to use condoms" things are even more confusing to me.
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Aug 4, 2018 10:40
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So at humanity 10 do you have to roll to prevent awkward boners at socially inopportune times as well? Because if not, its a serious oversight.
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Aug 4, 2018 11:16
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FATAL: WoD edition
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Mormon Star Wars posted:The "hiding the fact that you aren't using a condom" and "vampires prefer not to use condoms" things are even more confusing to me.
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