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Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015





homoerotic cyber meme code words is still one of my favorite phrases of all time

e: cat in a hat tax

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Drunk Theory
Aug 20, 2016


Oven Wrangler

Beet Wagon posted:

homoerotic cyber meme code words is still one of my favorite phrases of all time

What an excellent snipe.

Pixelate
Jan 6, 2018

"You win by having fun"

It's beautiful!

---

And goes lovely with this Chris transcript too. Which features bears. And vaingloriously bad space poo poo...

It's long and makes no sense, so I put the best bits in bold.

quote:

Q: What incentives and gameplay benefits do we want to implement to encourage players to wear uniforms and clothes on ships and on space stations etc?

A: That is my big pet peeve, and bug bear, and if you sat in our meetings you will hear me harass our actor(?) teams, because there's a lot of sort of small detail on this. Essentially I want to make, ah, the use of suits and helmets be sort of appropriate the same way they would be in the real world. For instance wondering around in the medium or heavy armour you should not be able to sit into the pilot's seat, or an operator seat to operate stuff. And in terms of sort of doing things and communicating I want, you know, having your helmet on has, y'know, an impact on say, your stamina, your ability to communicate.

What I really want to move to is what we call a physical-based inventory, which is why we're building lockers onto the ships and everything. And so there isn't, you don't have some magic bag of holding that you can have every single outfit sitting there. Like you literally if you have your spacesuit on what I want you to do is you get aboard your Connie, and then you take off your EVA suit, put your helmet, and get into the pilot seat to fly. And if you've gotta go outside, there's some decompression, you've gotta run, put on your suit. And you shouldn't be able to operate or do things in cumbersome equipment. Or if you do the cumbersome equipment makes it more difficult, makes you slower, makes you have less stamina...

Other things that haven't been properly implemented yet is the, what we call the player status, a little bit, you've seen the stamina, but the light roleplay elements, having to hydrate, having to eat occasionally, and you know potentially having to, ahh, you know, go to the rest room, or take a shower so you're not smelly...

I wanna have those so it sorta facilitates behaviour like, if you go to a landing zone, y'know you take off your suit and you're walking around you can talk and communicate people with, you know, face to face. Rather than everyone's running around in battle armour or space suits, you know, it just feels kinda weird. But that's mostly because we don't have the penalties for having those things. But we will do.

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CONCLUSION: You will have to take your medium armour off to pee.

Plus he really thinks you can't communicate with your future space helmet on.

Plus there will be penalties. There will...

Daztek
Jun 2, 2006



https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/engineering/13128-The-Star-Citizen-Economy


quote:

Players and organizations who amass enough wealth can take control of individual production nodes and begin building an industrial empire. The most aggressive entrepreneurs may take over whole sections of a supply chain and begin producing their own goods for sale on the open market – if they can keep the resources flowing. But be warned – some large corporations don’t appreciate competition!

:laugh:

PederP
Nov 20, 2009

downout posted:

3 days late to the agile discussion - anyone say agile can't fail, only be failed?

Yeah, a lot of Scotsmen came along spouting something like that.

Dementropy
Aug 23, 2010







Thoatse
Feb 29, 2016

Lol said the scorpion, lmao

Thoatse
Feb 29, 2016

Lol said the scorpion, lmao

This is good, for Star Citizen :v:

Thoatse
Feb 29, 2016

Lol said the scorpion, lmao

Malachite_Dragon posted:

We passed the point where mercy was an option long ago.



I tried to sweep the leg but clipped right through it :(

The Titanic
Sep 15, 2016

Unsinkable

Liquid Dinosaur posted:

Okay so, I’ve asked this multiple times before I became a regular reader of this thread, but I’m really dumb and couldn’t find it. Where the gently caress is the parp? Could someone link me the exact moment in the Space-President Oldman Speech where the parp happens?

Also what’s the origin of “rub” in the context of the game. Did Chris describe high fidelity masturbating mechanics or something?

Parp:

Somebody showed a picture of this. It was from Peter Gabriel when he took some of the images of Gary Oldmans model being distorted in a YouTube video and they were showing off their face distortion technology for all of their miraculous cinematography back in the day.

It was widely seen as a bad idea to do that with the likeness of a real life actor, and yes it did indeed go poorly. This also was the origination of "flat gary" with all the flow lines on his unwrapped UV texture they also showed.

Rub:

Some reddit user suggested that everybody on SA is spending all their time rubbing each other over different things involved in the controversy. In natural SA methods this was quickly adopted as the new thing to do, since nobody had ever thought of it before and it sounded hilariously stupid. It's another thing that didn't originate on here but became part of the "culture", much like the Stimpire Guy. Neither of these came from the annals of the thread or SA, but it was just too crazy and insane to pass up to lay claim to.

Sabreseven
Feb 27, 2016


And still, no gameplay. :shrug:

(Context: What they show in the vid isn't anything even remotely similar to what actually happens in the pu)

Sabreseven fucked around with this message at 19:47 on Aug 4, 2018

Thoatse
Feb 29, 2016

Lol said the scorpion, lmao
https://twitter.com/dril/status/1025773792486801409

The Saddest Robot
Apr 17, 2007
Brb gotta shower to reduce my smell meter before I meet up with the fleet.

Beef Hardcheese
Jan 21, 2003

HOW ABOUT I LASH YOUR SHIT


The Titanic posted:

Parp:

Somebody showed a picture of this. It was from Peter Gabriel when he took some of the images of Gary Oldmans model being distorted in a YouTube video and they were showing off their face distortion technology for all of their miraculous cinematography back in the day.

It was widely seen as a bad idea to do that with the likeness of a real life actor, and yes it did indeed go poorly. This also was the origination of "flat gary" with all the flow lines on his unwrapped UV texture they also showed.




Speculation is that one of the (many) problems behind SQ42 is that Gary himself got wind of this and is pissed about it... Perhaps making him less than willing to come back and do reshoots to fix all the dumb mocap problems they had in the first place.

This is also tied to speculation about why we haven't seen anything new about any of the actors in years. Something about the amount of time that an actor's likeness can be used in advertisements/ promo material, and how that clock began ticking with Gary Oldman as soon as these things were released. Now the time limit has passed, and he isn't letting them renew the agreement (or wants way more money because he's mad at them).

Beef Hardcheese fucked around with this message at 20:14 on Aug 4, 2018

stinch
Nov 21, 2013
:gary::gizz:

The Titanic
Sep 15, 2016

Unsinkable

Beef Hardcheese posted:



Speculation is that one of the (many) problems behind SQ42 is that Gary himself got wind of this and is pissed about it... Perhaps making him less than willing to come back and do reshoots to fix all the dumb mocap problems they had in the first place.

This is also tied to speculation about why we haven't seen anything new about any of the actors in years. Something about the amount of time that an actor's likeness can be used in advertisements/ promo material, and how that clock began ticking with Gary Oldman as soon as these things were released. Now the time limit has passed, and he isn't letting them renew the agreement (or wants way more money because he's mad at them).

I don't blame him in the least. When it comes to having respect for the actors involved, they didn't so that. They basically acted like they "owned" them and showed off all kinds of horrible digital crap that no doubt went sour.

The only thing worse would be if they release the models, and you end up with photorealistic Gary Oldman banging photorealistic Gillian Anderson in some guy's machinima porn, which absolutely will happen 30 minutes after these assets get into some modders hands.

Lladre
Jun 28, 2011


Soiled Meat

The Titanic posted:

photorealistic Gary Oldman banging photorealistic Gillian Anderson in some guy's machinima porn, which absolutely will happen 30 minutes after these assets get into some modders hands.

Please don't kink shame.

Also us machinimist have to put food on the table just like everyone else.

SPERMCUBE.ORG
Nov 3, 2011

Space commies are th' biggest threat t' red-blooded American Freedom we got in th' future. So me and my boys got to talking over a few hot dogs the other day and this is what we came up with...

Tokamak posted:

It should be obvious to anyone who has played games in the last decade how spending money to short circuit progression can negatively affect the psyche of a playerbase

If I were a backer I'd be worried about how the game being unabashedly pay-to-win affects the calculus of the development. But then I don't really believe for one second that development is actually happening or that anyone who paid for Star Citizen knows what calculus is. I guess I'm glad the backers are being taken for a ride.

mjotto
Nov 8, 2017

Koil posted:

Last nights RTV crobbers



Sadly the lighting was so bad it was hard to get good images.

So true, I can bearly watch them.

TheSickeningTruth
Jul 22, 2018
I want to see old luke skywalker buttduck superman now. It will be good for Star Citizen.

XK
Jul 9, 2001

Star Citizen is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it's fidelity when you look out your window or when you watch youtube


hahahahahaha

This is why I love Star Citizen.

XK
Jul 9, 2001

Star Citizen is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it's fidelity when you look out your window or when you watch youtube

Pixelate posted:

It's long and makes no sense, so I put the best bits in bold.

quote:

Q: What incentives and gameplay benefits do we want to implement to encourage players to wear uniforms and clothes on ships and on space stations etc?

A: That is my big pet peeve, and bug bear, and if you sat in our meetings you will hear me harass our actor(?) teams, because there's a lot of sort of small detail on this. Essentially I want to make, ah, the use of suits and helmets be sort of appropriate the same way they would be in the real world. For instance wondering around in the medium or heavy armour you should not be able to sit into the pilot's seat, or an operator seat to operate stuff. And in terms of sort of doing things and communicating I want, you know, having your helmet on has, y'know, an impact on say, your stamina, your ability to communicate.

What I really want to move to is what we call a physical-based inventory, which is why we're building lockers onto the ships and everything. And so there isn't, you don't have some magic bag of holding that you can have every single outfit sitting there. Like you literally if you have your spacesuit on what I want you to do is you get aboard your Connie, and then you take off your EVA suit, put your helmet, and get into the pilot seat to fly. And if you've gotta go outside, there's some decompression, you've gotta run, put on your suit. And you shouldn't be able to operate or do things in cumbersome equipment. Or if you do the cumbersome equipment makes it more difficult, makes you slower, makes you have less stamina...

Other things that haven't been properly implemented yet is the, what we call the player status, a little bit, you've seen the stamina, but the light roleplay elements, having to hydrate, having to eat occasionally, and you know potentially having to, ahh, you know, go to the rest room, or take a shower so you're not smelly...

I wanna have those so it sorta facilitates behaviour like, if you go to a landing zone, y'know you take off your suit and you're walking around you can talk and communicate people with, you know, face to face. Rather than everyone's running around in battle armour or space suits, you know, it just feels kinda weird. But that's mostly because we don't have the penalties for having those things. But we will do.

---

CONCLUSION: You will have to take your medium armour off to pee.

Plus he really thinks you can't communicate with your future space helmet on.

Plus there will be penalties. There will...

This is pretty wild poo poo.

AtmaTheWanderer
Nov 6, 2003
FFXI Mithra Mangina
Pillbug
Because having to change the color of your laser is much more involved.

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tooterfish
Jul 13, 2013

TheSickeningTruth posted:

I want to see old luke skywalker buttduck superman now. It will be good for Star Citizen.
It can't be any worse than the Justice League film.

colonelwest
Jun 30, 2018

The RtV was very comforting for me, because I was getting worried that CIG was giving up on the dream of a supermassive black hole of fidelity that sucks in the player's time and ability to have fun. I'm glad to know that when I log into the game I will have to go to my space closet and put on individual pieces of my space suit, and then take it off and put on my space armor to participate in sub 20 fps first person shooting, taking a break every 30 mins to take it all off again to pee. Any loot I win from this, I will have to individually carry back to my ship and place in another space closet or container. I wonder when CIG will implement space label makers so I can remember which space closet or space drawer I put my phallic alien weapon in?

I'm glad Chris is out there fighting the good fight, and in his own words "harassing" his team to make this exciting vision come to life.

BeigeJacket
Jul 21, 2005

I wasn’t paying attention during the early days of this fine mess. When did they shoot all the Oldman/Anderson stuff? Did the backers ever say anything about their money being spent on an all star cast? Roberts must have paid the actors millions.

AtmaTheWanderer
Nov 6, 2003
FFXI Mithra Mangina
Pillbug

colonelwest posted:

The RtV was very comforting for me, because I was getting worried that CIG was giving up on the dream of a supermassive black hole of fidelity that sucks in the player's time and ability to have fun. I'm glad to know that when I log into the game I will have to go to my space closet and put on individual pieces of my space suit, and then take it off and put on my space armor to participate in sub 20 fps first person shooting, taking a break every 30 mins to take it all off again to pee. Any loot I win from this, I will have to individually carry back to my ship and place in another space closet or container. I wonder when CIG will implement space label makers so I can remember which space closet or space drawer I put my phallic alien weapon in?

I'm glad Chris is out there fighting the good fight, and in his own words "harassing" his team to make this exciting vision come to life.

Don't worry. Chris has you covered. Literally hours of engaging box-carrying content.

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IncredibleIgloo
Feb 17, 2011






This commando is frozen in fear. Forward they see their deadliest foe; the dreaded ramp. From the commando's radio we hear a quite "nooooooo~"

Quavers
Feb 26, 2016

You clearly don't understand game development

The Titanic posted:

I don't blame him in the least. When it comes to having respect for the actors involved, they didn't so that. They basically acted like they "owned" them and showed off all kinds of horrible digital crap that no doubt went sour.

The only thing worse would be if they release the models, and you end up with photorealistic Gary Oldman banging photorealistic Gillian Anderson in some guy's machinima porn, which absolutely will happen 30 minutes after these assets get into some modders hands.

I didn't know I wanted this until now :aaaaa:

Mirificus
Oct 29, 2004

Kings need not raise their voices to be heard


mjotto
Nov 8, 2017

Quavers posted:

I didn't know I wanted this until now :aaaaa:

Why would you want that? I'd like to bang Gilian myself. And not a photorealistic one, the real flesh and blood. But I'm guessing that happening has an even lesser chance than Chris releasing Star Citizen.

MedicineHut
Feb 25, 2016

BeigeJacket posted:

I wasn’t paying attention during the early days of this fine mess. When did they shoot all the Oldman/Anderson stuff? Did the backers ever say anything about their money being spent on an all star cast? Roberts must have paid the actors millions.

Not to worry friend. It is still is Early Days, and development has just started. A-list actors are doing well, thanks for your interest.

Spatial
Nov 15, 2007

It's gotta be 4 or 5 years ago now since they did the initial shoots.

Spatial
Nov 15, 2007

Here's the video I was talking about earlier, the source of Parpman and other funnies. This was in Oct 2015.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1eLecTsTSw

Parp at 5:21

Amazing Zimmo
Jan 27, 2006

That's quite a load you got in them diapers

Considering that they can't even get FPS AI to work in a FPS engine, I seriously doubt the NPC's will ever be out doing jobs and running the economy.

Amazing Zimmo
Jan 27, 2006

That's quite a load you got in them diapers

That is not how you carry a box.

Quavers
Feb 26, 2016

You clearly don't understand game development

mjotto posted:

Why would you want that? I'd like to bang Gilian myself. And not a photorealistic one, the real flesh and blood. But I'm guessing that happening has an even lesser chance than Chris releasing Star Citizen.

It would be hilarious to post Sq42 porn-machinima to /r/StarCitizen and watch the nutters meltdown

Quavers
Feb 26, 2016

You clearly don't understand game development


:argh:

Quavers fucked around with this message at 23:46 on Aug 4, 2018

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

Amazing Zimmo posted:

That is not how you carry a box.

Its full of Argon.

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peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos
So I thought I'd load up the game and make a fun video.
I cannot, the game will not let me:
Play it
Have any fun

They have designed the little bit of fun there was to be had right out of the game.
So, you now walk like a loving zombie on Prozac now, the tool tips (they have added a lot of these) tell you to press shift to run, so I do and I do.
The thing is, what they have done is so transparent with this my eyes rolled 365 degrees in my head and moonwalked away like an Xbox 360.
They have put in more and more 'poo poo zones' - These first started appearing years ago when the table I used to run on and jump off suddenly auto forced you to walk on it, and no where else but on that one table. This 'fixed' the issue of people jumping through the ceiling.
They now have these anti fun zones on all air locks, so you can no longer run at the doors. You are not able to move with freedom any more in multiple places and it's jarring as gently caress, as well as a SLAP IN THE FACE - it reeks of on rails console games made by EA and hand holding BULL$HIT like what evil publishers put in games.
So that sucks the fun out of that.
Then we move on to being outside. We all know that Star Citizen does not simulate anything at all but when you are outside now you get a tool tip telling you to 'monitor your oxygen levels at all times and press B to take some medicine or some bullshit' - So now you have limited time outside. I pressed B and nothing happened.
This essentially means open world dicking around is dead, you now have a fun tax slapped on that.
Then we have this new loving god awful lovely wank arse UI and how you 'interact with bullshit' - OK, so press F4 to go into 3rd person view, this is my preferred view as it really is the best way to see your commandos ultra 4K butt textures.
Now, want to OPEN A loving DOOR? Well space cadet, prepare to use your wits and training because doors no longer just open, oh no, this is the future after all. You now zombie your rear end up to the door and press F, while pressing F a very hit and miss UI pops up and your wobble your mouse at 5fps over the door handle, so now while doing this click the loving thing, go on click, click like the arsehole you are.
If this has all gone well the IMMERSION ANIMATION will open the door, and now you get to press F4 again to go back to the view you were in - every time.
This is lovely enough with doors but you want to fly a Mustang? Good luck with that, instead of being immersed in the greatest gaming experience of the century you are a twat kneeling down, pressing F, wobbling your mouse and clicking wildly at the ether hoping something, anything happens. If your man hole cover of destiny ever deigns to flop open you pop out of your preferred view, into a god awful view and all hell breaks loose until you mash F4, then guess what? PRESS F YOU BITCH AND CLICK THE loving IMMERSION LADDER - Are you having fun yet? WELL GUESS WHAT? View change out of no where. Press F4 again while totally doing the loving can can upside down and DO IT ALL AGAIN TO SIT IN A loving CHAIR.
They have killed this game dead, this is literally zero fun now.

OK, so I get in my commandos chair and IT GETS WORSE.
So now you do the press F bullshit and your chariot turns on eventually. Now then, after the usual 'Landing Gear Succsfl' welcome message you USED TO be able to hit space bar and zoom up.
Not any more motherfucker
Now you have to (while sat in the chair) press F and wobble your mouse around until you find a START CHARIOT button. This appears to do nothing.
This is as far as I got - Fuuuuuck this. The cockpit is all sort of interactive now with much F pressing going on, the UI too small to read and literally useless.
I never did take off because...

THEY HAVE NOW PUT A FUN TAX ON FLYING
So if you sit in your crap ship on the lovely grey concrete environment for too long you despawn after a warning of 'You are stationary in an active landing pad for too long you arse' warning.
So that was me, done with that poo poo, I got teleported back inside Port Olsisissrarar for loitering, my crime level went up as well, although I doubt that does anything.

I cannot express how poo poo this is now, it's not funny, it's not fun, it's shear joyless crap and you can literally see where they have designed the fun right the gently caress out of it. "People seem to be having fun running in this area and jumping around - I think if we disabled running and jumping that would solve it, also people are playing around on the landing pads, we should really take steps to KNOCK THAT OFF"

That along with 7 minutes loading screens, 12 FPS, chat still full of 'weapons not working' and other shite. It's crap, if anyone is on the fence about buying this just to see how bad it is, don't - Instead get off the fence and stare at it for an hour, it's more fun.

peter gabriel fucked around with this message at 23:48 on Aug 4, 2018

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