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Rooted Vegetable
Jun 1, 2002

robotindisguise posted:

Any recommendations for a baby cam/monitor? The discrete devices seem lovely and pricey for what you get...

Super Slash posted:

When ours was born we got by just using an AngelCare motion sensor and radio
.... Raspberry Pi Zero with MotionEyeOS and a spare PS3 Camera/WiFi dongle to make a local web camera

Don Dongington posted:

...IP cameras make for pretty good baby monitors... disable any cloud poo poo and firewall them off...

Thomamelas posted:

The grey market Hikvision or Dauha cameras are generally fine and in the sub-$200 range
....
Ubiquiti deliberately broke RTSP support in their cameras

Leal posted:

Any opinions on this Yi brand camera?
...
The negative reviews seem to be about people having problems with their phone privacy rather then the camera itself.

Been looking through the thread to see what the goon mind decided on Baby Monitoring using Security Cameras. No one clear answer existed, here or elsewhere for that matter. Even so it appears the market has moved on a bit since we last discussed it, and some of the originally monitored babies are now toddlers.

A friend of mine has been using a Yi Home cam for Baby Monitoring, but I'm tempted go for a Yi Dome instead. It should be noted that we have a separate audio monitor we'd likely continue using for a while, but I'm drawn to the Yi ones because of the Cry Detection. It would allow me to stray a little further than the monitor allows, provides a backup alert to the audio monitor and allows viewing while away from the home when I'm on a business trip.

I'm also looking for something that would use useful post-baby-monitoring. One day I'll likely move this to normal security camera duties. SmartThings and Home Assistant supporting features also great, I say the latter because I may move my home automation to that soon.

Any updated thoughts on the Baby Monitoring matter?

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BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe
Nest Chat.

Our love our Nest thermostat and two outdoor cams (non-IQ). Haven't had to contact support, but I have been happy with them for the most part. I love the quality and notifications and app of the outdoor cams. Very nice.

Anyone in the FireTV ecosystem and wants tv control should check out the Cube. It's TV voice control is wayyyyyy nicer than my Harmony + Dot setup I had.

Also I resisted FireTVs for a while because I have a lot of kids movies int he Google Play ecosystem. I also have most of those movies connected via Movies Anywhere.

Well after setting up the Cube (as a test for my godmother really more than keeping it for myself) I noticed there was a video library section and it was able to access ALL of my movies from other services.

uh... sweet?

Zero VGS
Aug 16, 2002
ASK ME ABOUT HOW HUMAN LIVES THAT MADE VIDEO GAME CONTROLLERS ARE WORTH MORE
Lipstick Apathy

BonoMan posted:


Well after setting up the Cube (as a test for my godmother really more than keeping it for myself) I noticed there was a video library section and it was able to access ALL of my movies from other services.

uh... sweet?

A decade ago I used my laptop near a window to grab the free public Wi-Fi signal so my roommates could plug into my laptop and take their PS3 online. But while I was gone the PS3 automatically took all my homegrown porn and put it into the PS3 video gallery, I came back to my roommates traumatized

Sometimes smart tech is too smart for its own good

CheddarGoblin
Jan 12, 2005
oh

Thermopyle posted:

Apparently, Google Homes are now room-aware when you control devices located in the same room as them.

So, if you've assigned a Home to a room and its the one that hears you, you can say "dim the lights" instead of "dim the living room lights".

Do I have to enable this somewhere? Cause it definitely aint working for me, and I always wished it did. "turn off the fan" responds with "turning off 4 devices" when I'm in the office :/

Thermopyle
Jul 1, 2003

...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. —Bertrand Russell

n.. posted:

Do I have to enable this somewhere? Cause it definitely aint working for me, and I always wished it did. "turn off the fan" responds with "turning off 4 devices" when I'm in the office :/



It's probably another Google staged rollout. If so, you'll have to just wait until it works.

Molten Llama
Sep 20, 2006

Thermopyle posted:

It's probably another Google staged rollout. If so, you'll have to just wait until it works.

The Googliest staged rollout.

Works on my OG Home, does not on my Mini. Only user on both, Previews are on and up-to-date for both, and both are assigned to the room they're in.

Tapedump
Aug 31, 2007
College Slice
The Mini’s logo isn’t oriented to magnetic North, is it? Plus or minus 15 degrees? Cause that’ll do it.

CheddarGoblin
Jan 12, 2005
oh
I only have mini's, but I think I've got them aimed true north :doh: so that's probably it.

Thermopyle
Jul 1, 2003

...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. —Bertrand Russell

Can anyone here recommend a zwave RGB light bulb they like?

CheddarGoblin
Jan 12, 2005
oh

Thermopyle posted:

Can anyone here recommend a zwave RGB light bulb they like?

Does it absolutely have to be zwave? If not I recommend these. They work great with HA.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

I've been looking into outdoor security cameras.

This may be a dumb question but, what is preventing thieves from unplugging them and stealing them? That poo poo is expensive.

Rexxed
May 1, 2010

Dis is amazing!
I gotta try dis!

enraged_camel posted:

I've been looking into outdoor security cameras.

This may be a dumb question but, what is preventing thieves from unplugging them and stealing them? That poo poo is expensive.

Usually they're screwed into a mount and you'd have footage saved on your recorder of someone walking up and undoing the screws and taking the camera.

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

enraged_camel posted:

I've been looking into outdoor security cameras.

This may be a dumb question but, what is preventing thieves from unplugging them and stealing them? That poo poo is expensive.

Nest outdoor ones are magnetic but the power cord is physically attached and, theoretically, goes into an attic or something for power (or a locked outdoor box). So it's actually really hard to steal. They could cut power or black it out but you'd have it on the recording.

ClassActionFursuit
Mar 15, 2006

BonoMan posted:

Nest outdoor ones are magnetic but the power cord is physically attached and, theoretically, goes into an attic or something for power (or a locked outdoor box). So it's actually really hard to steal.

I sure hope thieves never hear about scissors or we'll all be hosed!

Hubis
May 18, 2003

Boy, I wish we had one of those doomsday machines...

Zero VGS posted:

A decade ago I used my laptop near a window to grab the free public Wi-Fi signal so my roommates could plug into my laptop and take their PS3 online. But while I was gone the PS3 automatically took all my homegrown porn and put it into the PS3 video gallery, I came back to my roommates traumatized

Sometimes smart tech is too smart for its own good

The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Inspect Your Gadgets > Home Automation and Security: OK Google, Show Everyone My Dick

Moey
Oct 22, 2010

I LIKE TO MOVE IT
Shouldn't have had that shared out to everyone on the local network.

Thomamelas
Mar 11, 2009

enraged_camel posted:

I've been looking into outdoor security cameras.

This may be a dumb question but, what is preventing thieves from unplugging them and stealing them? That poo poo is expensive.

A couple of factors. Height being the first one. Most cameras are mounted 10 to 12 ft in the air. From there it depends a bit on what the camera is mounted to (securing to stucco is a different beast than masonry) and what style of camera it is. As for protecting the cabling flexible metal conduit and junction boxes can solve that issue.

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

LastInLine posted:

I sure hope thieves never hear about scissors or we'll all be hosed!

It's a good thing I didn't literally mention that in the sentence you decided to edit out just to try to make your dumb point!

ClassActionFursuit
Mar 15, 2006

BonoMan posted:

It's a good thing I didn't literally mention that in the sentence you decided to edit out just to try to make your dumb point!

Should've edited out the part about it being difficult to steal then. If a guy is willing to break in to your place after noticing your camera and decides they're going to take that as well, they aren't giving up because the wire is really stuck

The truth is they're all incredibly vulnerable to theft but you get a picture of the guy doing it (assuming they haven't heard of masks AND scissors).

Desk Lamp
Jun 30, 2014
Height is really the main deterrent to theft. Assuming you've got even halfway decent neighbors the cops should be called on anyone setting up a ladder to steal a security camera.

ClassActionFursuit
Mar 15, 2006

True but I was kinda assuming if the op was asking about camera theft then they were accessible due to lack of options. After all if they were out of reach then they're as safe as they can be, right?

Thomamelas
Mar 11, 2009

LastInLine posted:

Should've edited out the part about it being difficult to steal then. If a guy is willing to break in to your place after noticing your camera and decides they're going to take that as well, they aren't giving up because the wire is really stuck

The truth is they're all incredibly vulnerable to theft but you get a picture of the guy doing it (assuming they haven't heard of masks AND scissors).

Some of it depends on what it's mounted to. Sometimes you can use longer bolts rather than screws and secure the interior with nuts. For situations where that isn't feasible, I've seen people use various glues. There are a bunch of solutions ranging from half-assed to fairly solid but they are going to vary by what I have to mount something to, what the interior is, what ascetic options are required and so on. If someone is willing to use a pry bar to open up a wall, then they can defeat some of them. But that is a greater level of effort then you need to deter for the vast majority of home break ins.

For camera cabling, there are a bunch of conduit options that are going to require much heavier tools than scissors to cut.

Desk Lamp
Jun 30, 2014

LastInLine posted:

True but I was kinda assuming if the op was asking about camera theft then they were accessible due to lack of options. After all if they were out of reach then they're as safe as they can be, right?

Of course, I wasn't addressing you specifically I was answering the original question.

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

LastInLine posted:

Should've edited out the part about it being difficult to steal then. If a guy is willing to break in to your place after noticing your camera and decides they're going to take that as well, they aren't giving up because the wire is really stuck

The truth is they're all incredibly vulnerable to theft but you get a picture of the guy doing it (assuming they haven't heard of masks AND scissors).

The point I was making us that it's difficult to steal without detection. Not that it's impossible. Generally having to get up on a ladder (mine are only 8 or 9 feet high and you need at least a step ladder or something) or at least spend time fidgeting around an active camera is going to act as a deterrent... even a small one. And the camera is linked to your account so powering it back up will send the image, wherever it is, to your account theoretically (if it's hooked up to WiFi... Which you can't use it without).

Almost anything mounted outside is steable at some point if damaging the product is an option.

Geez what a dumb discussion.

Edit: also my point still stands that I made the same point you did in my OG post and you literally made an effort to edit it out to seem like I didn't.

BonoMan fucked around with this message at 15:32 on Aug 5, 2018

Thermopyle
Jul 1, 2003

...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. —Bertrand Russell

n.. posted:

Does it absolutely have to be zwave? If not I recommend these. They work great with HA.

Well, I'd prefer it, but it's not absolutely required. Those look like a good option for a decent price...

Rooted Vegetable
Jun 1, 2002

Thermopyle posted:

Well, I'd prefer it, but it's not absolutely required. Those look like a good option for a decent price...

I suppose I can't talk you into Hue? I'm using it in a mixed environment and it's not bad at all.

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

Heners_UK posted:

I suppose I can't talk you into Hue? I'm using it in a mixed environment and it's not bad at all.

I love our hue setup. I haven't used any others so I can't compare but it's pretty nice. I even have the color ones in my office at work and found that the Hue desktop app can analyze your screen/video and give your whole room the ambilight treatment.

Thermopyle
Jul 1, 2003

...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. —Bertrand Russell

Heners_UK posted:

I suppose I can't talk you into Hue? I'm using it in a mixed environment and it's not bad at all.

Well, I just can't think what it offers to make it worth the extra money for me.

HycoCam
Jul 14, 2016

You should have backed Transverse!
The miLights/Limitless LED/generic Chinese wifi bulbs and light strips work well with HA using the emulated HUE bridge. Fibaro RGBW Micro Controller if you want a true zwave controller for strip lights.

As for wiring security cameras. If you are installing four or more cameras, Power over Ethernet is the way to go. The PoE cabling when installed correctly will be behind the mount. If thieves want to mess with your cameras they are much more likely to wack them with a shovel or something over getting a ladder and screwdriver.

There are also a few considerations when positioning your cameras. Overt and covert cameras, for one--locate highly visible cameras in your eaves looking down and hide a camera under a deck/near your door/somewhere lower aimed up (vs down)--you'll often get more usable pictures of faces and cars from a lower perspective. Another design consideration is to have cameras looking at other cameras--think of a triangle with three cameras able to see each other. Gives multiple views of an event with the added advantage of a solo person not being able to disable all the cameras without being on video from the others. Trenching direct bury ethernet to a tree and running conduit to a bird house with a camera inside is one way to hide a covert camera that looks back your house, for example.

Rick
Feb 23, 2004
When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

Thermopyle posted:

Well, I just can't think what it offers to make it worth the extra money for me.

In an objective sense, it's probably not worth the extra money. But they're super easy and work with everything.

Zero VGS
Aug 16, 2002
ASK ME ABOUT HOW HUMAN LIVES THAT MADE VIDEO GAME CONTROLLERS ARE WORTH MORE
Lipstick Apathy

BonoMan posted:

Geez what a dumb discussion.

Right? Who the gently caress would steal a security camera? What kind of pawn shop is gonna fence a security cam that your junkie rear end cut the cable from?

My Skybell video doorbell actually has a lifetime theft replacement guarantee because they know no one would (A) think they can get away with it and (B) actually do it: https://skybelltechnologies.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/209598486-Theft-Protection-Guarantee

CheddarGoblin
Jan 12, 2005
oh
If you don't already have a Hue bridge then why bother when you can get equally good poo poo for cheaper without one.

I kinda wish all my stuff was wifi and I didn't have any zwave, but at that time I couldn't find any switches I liked that were wifi.

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe
Also, if you don't already do it, just buy all of your Hue stuff certified refurbished from Amazon. Ain't no need to buy that poo poo new.

Thermopyle
Jul 1, 2003

...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. —Bertrand Russell

So, it appears there's lots of wifi rgb bulbs and they're substantially cheaper than some of the zwave bulbs. Heck, this one is 14 bucks. Anyone have anything good or bad to say about any of them?

I'm pretty wary about giving a no-name wifi bulb access to my network so I guess I'd set up a VLAN for it.

MeKeV
Aug 10, 2010
Perhaps a little on the overly paranoid side, but my wariness has been more on them being screwed in to an always on socket rather than the access to my network side of things.

Particularly when you simultaneously see some with whopping big heatsinks and some with nothing at all.

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.
I got a couple ikea smart bulbs and their bridge on the weekend and now I am hooked on this automation thing, it is slick as hell.

I wish they would sell the colour bulb without the remote though.

Does anyone know if their motion sensor and light will work in dim mode -> motion trigger -> 100% brightness -> timeout -> dim mode ? That’d be useful for the front porch.

mewse
May 2, 2006

priznat posted:

Does anyone know if their motion sensor and light will work in dim mode -> motion trigger -> 100% brightness -> timeout -> dim mode ? That’d be useful for the front porch.

Just get a security light :confused:

e: wasn't trying to flame you or anything, I just installed this guy on the side of my house last year and I don't understand why it would need ensmartening

mewse fucked around with this message at 18:18 on Aug 7, 2018

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.

mewse posted:

Just get a security light :confused:

e: wasn't trying to flame you or anything, I just installed this guy on the side of my house last year and I don't understand why it would need ensmartening

Nah it’s fine, and I have a few of those around I would just like to swap out the bulb in the fixture above the front door for a smart one that I could control remotely or set a schedule on, and be able to have it brighten up when detects motion.

Right now I have it on a timer that is based off of sunrise/sunset times and that is fine but between the hours of like 11pm and 6am/sunrise it would be nice to have it auto dim when no movement. It’s no hard requirement or anything just would be kinda nifty.

Fancy_Lad
May 15, 2003
Would you like to buy a monkey?
Am I crazy in thinking that there is a fairly reasonable security concern with dozens of random WiFi devices splattered all over the place, doing god knows what on the local network?

All my switches, sensors, bulbs, and whatnot I want to be either Z-Wave or Zigbee and communicate with just my automation hub - one thing to secure/worry about. I have Google Home/Minis, but have shied away from random Chinese Wifi plugs/bulbs because it just seems like a bad idea waiting to happen...

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mewse
May 2, 2006

priznat posted:

Nah it’s fine, and I have a few of those around I would just like to swap out the bulb in the fixture above the front door for a smart one that I could control remotely or set a schedule on, and be able to have it brighten up when detects motion.

Right now I have it on a timer that is based off of sunrise/sunset times and that is fine but between the hours of like 11pm and 6am/sunrise it would be nice to have it auto dim when no movement. It’s no hard requirement or anything just would be kinda nifty.

If the bulb is hanging maybe you can retrofit this thing

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