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chiasaur11
Oct 22, 2012



symbolic posted:

On the other hand, Monoma isn't exactly "all there" upstairs, so...

He's an arrogant rear end in a top hat with an inferiority complex, sure, and his bad attitude makes it hard to see, but he's very far from stupid.

(But enough about Bakugo)

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Adder Moray
Nov 18, 2010

Rhonne posted:

I would love it if Monoma got transferred to class A and immediately pulled a 180 and started acting all buddy buddy with them while making GBS threads all over those jerks in class B.

I'd respect him more and find it even more hilarious if he continued to poo poo on 1-A, himself included now.

symbolic
Nov 2, 2014

chiasaur11 posted:

He's an arrogant rear end in a top hat with an inferiority complex, sure, and his bad attitude makes it hard to see, but he's very far from stupid.

(But enough about Bakugo)

I was more so saying he seemed a tad insane. He's quite intelligent.

Kild
Apr 24, 2010

how likely is it that bakugou and deku are in separate classes in year 2?

Say Nothing
Mar 5, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
Shinsou kind of got screwed over by the entrance exam - having mind control powers Isn't useful against robots.

Shadowlyger
Nov 5, 2009

ElvUI super fan at your service!

Ask me any and all questions about UI customization via PM

Say Nothing posted:

Shinsou kind of got screwed over by the entrance exam - having mind control powers Isn't useful against robots.

Excuses, excuses. Ojiro passed that exam, you know what his quirk is? He has a loving tail. That's it.

Zomborgon
Feb 19, 2014

I don't even want to see what happens if you gain CHIM outside of a pre-coded system.

Viridiant posted:

I know people have said 'no' to this but I'll explain why it can't be the case: One For All didn't exist until All For One gave his brother a quirk that could stockpile power, which combined with his brother's until-then unknown quirk of being able to transfer his quirk to other people.

Thus, if One for All were copied, the copier would either have only one part (largely useless given the timescale) or get both. Either way, it's unlikely they'd get to copy the current level of the stockpile, so they still get no real benefit from it.

However, if one could pass it on after copying both One-For-All abilities while retaining one's copying ability, you could maybe create a One-For-All factory.

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007

Shadowlyger posted:

Excuses, excuses. Ojiro passed that exam, you know what his quirk is? He has a loving tail. That's it.

he can also apparently kung-fu chop robots in half

wouldn't be surprised if his musculature had some kind of enhancement to accommodate the Quirk

Stexils
Jun 5, 2008

quirks: tail, incredibly muscular rear end

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.
In the end, it's the Deku Failing. Shinsou's quirk was bad for the exam, yeah, but what did he do to improve himself, physically, he's not that fit, Deku wanted to be a Hero but what was he doing with himself to move towards that path? It wasn't working out and trying to make up for not having a quirk.

Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010



symbolic posted:

I was more so saying he seemed a tad insane. He's quite intelligent.

monoma is the only person from class b that needed remedial lessons so idk about that

chiasaur11
Oct 22, 2012



Manatee Cannon posted:

monoma is the only person from class b that needed remedial lessons so idk about that

Considering his performance at the sports festival, I'd say it's more likely he hosed up on the practical.

Given his personality, and assuming they had a similar test to 1-A, his partner probably ditched him to get to the exit.

symbolic
Nov 2, 2014

Manatee Cannon posted:

monoma is the only person from class b that needed remedial lessons so idk about that

Official Character Book gives him 5/5 INT.

chiasaur11
Oct 22, 2012



symbolic posted:

Official Character Book gives him 5/5 INT.

I considered bringing that up, but it also gives All Might a 6/5, so... those scores are kind of in question.

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

HEAVYARMS
Toga, Aizawa and Knuckleduster all exist so Shinsou has no excuse for being a noodle if he wanted to actually become a hero instead of be a poo poo who gets sad that his quirk gets him typecast as a villain

Hihohe
Oct 4, 2008

Fuck you and the sun you live under


Eej posted:

Toga, Aizawa and Knuckleduster all exist so Shinsou has no excuse for being a noodle if he wanted to actually become a hero instead of be a poo poo who gets sad that his quirk gets him typecast as a villain

Thats what im thinking. His whole thing should be being as annoying as possible and impossible to pin down. Learn some rope-a-dope, some yo mamma jokes and take a psychology class and he could always have enough time and way to get under people skin and make them speak up.

Nephthys
Mar 27, 2010

I feel like Shonsou may be working with the school to locate the traitor. Aizawa seems to be training him or at least working with him in some way, I could see him being privately trained as a kind of undercover hero who works in the shadows like Aizawa. His power kind of requires that his opponent not expect his ability and it'd be suitably tragic for him to not able to publicly work as a hero due to his quirk.

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

HEAVYARMS
Shinsou after he gets his motivational boost from the Deku fight would just work better as a PI especially since villains in those kinds of stories tend to shoot first and ask questions later

Rhonne
Feb 13, 2012



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SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Viridiant posted:

I know people have said 'no' to this but I'll explain why it can't be the case: One For All didn't exist until All For One gave his brother a quirk that could stockpile power, which combined with his brother's until-then unknown quirk of being able to transfer his quirk to other people.

If One For All can transfer two quirks (the pass-on quirk and the stockpile quirk) then it stands to reason it'd also be able to transfer the other quirks of the successors.

As a side note, I always thought it was odd that All For One could give quirks as easily as he could take quirks. My original understanding (back before Kamino) was that AFO stole quirks for himself, while his brother got the other half of the Quirk Transfer ability, being able to give quirks to others. But apparently AFO can both take and give, while OFA1 could only give.

Going back and rereading it, though, it seems All Might mentions right from the first time we learn about AFO that he could give quirks to other too, but that there was a risk of overloading them and making them brain-dead Nomus.

SKULL.GIF fucked around with this message at 14:14 on Aug 5, 2018

Terper
Jun 26, 2012


The stockpiling and giving quirk mutated into one. It is one quirk, similar to how Todoroki's is one quirk

Arianya
Nov 3, 2009

Also even if Monoma was stupid enough to try and copy Deku's Quirk I'm not sure for him it would be anything more then a mild enhancement quirk, given that OFA isn't "superstrength" it's "stockpiling power", so odds are he'd get a stockpiling power quirk with no power stockpiled yet.

Blaze Dragon
Aug 28, 2013
LOWTAX'S SPINE FUND

Zomborgon posted:

Thus, if One for All were copied, the copier would either have only one part (largely useless given the timescale) or get both. Either way, it's unlikely they'd get to copy the current level of the stockpile, so they still get no real benefit from it.

However, if one could pass it on after copying both One-For-All abilities while retaining one's copying ability, you could maybe create a One-For-All factory.

So what you're saying is that Deku should give One For All to Twice.

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

Give one for all to bakugo and watch him become a DBZ character in terms of collateral damage.

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

Living the Dream

Kild posted:

how likely is it that bakugou and deku are in separate classes in year 2?
I question if they'll mix the classes up in the second/third years considering size of the hero classes.

Question Friend
Aug 3, 2018

by FactsAreUseless

Onmi posted:

In the end, it's the Deku Failing. Shinsou's quirk was bad for the exam, yeah, but what did he do to improve himself, physically, he's not that fit, Deku wanted to be a Hero but what was he doing with himself to move towards that path? It wasn't working out and trying to make up for not having a quirk.

The spinoff where we learn the badass hero doesn't have a quirk, just training determination and brass knuckles makes Deku look even more pathetic

Cheston
Jul 17, 2012

(he's got a good thing going)

SKULL.GIF posted:

If One For All can transfer two quirks (the pass-on quirk and the stockpile quirk) then it stands to reason it'd also be able to transfer the other quirks of the successors.

As a side note, I always thought it was odd that All For One could give quirks as easily as he could take quirks. My original understanding (back before Kamino) was that AFO stole quirks for himself, while his brother got the other half of the Quirk Transfer ability, being able to give quirks to others. But apparently AFO can both take and give, while OFA1 could only give.

Going back and rereading it, though, it seems All Might mentions right from the first time we learn about AFO that he could give quirks to other too, but that there was a risk of overloading them and making them brain-dead Nomus.

I think the key difference is that AFO can't pass itself on. So AFO sees his successor in Shigaraki (to the point of dismissing specialist quirks like Best Jeanist's as not worth stealing), but he can't fully pass on his legacy like each OFA user can.

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


Cheston posted:

I think the key difference is that AFO can't pass itself on. So AFO sees his successor in Shigaraki (to the point of dismissing specialist quirks like Best Jeanist's as not worth stealing), but he can't fully pass on his legacy like each OFA user can.

I don't think skipping Best Jeanist's quirk has anything to do with that . Quirks like Best Jeanist's take years to master and AfO doesn't have time for that poo poo when he can take anything he pleases.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer

Question Friend posted:

The spinoff where we learn the badass hero doesn't have a quirk, just training determination and brass knuckles makes Deku look even more pathetic

And being about 40 years old and more importantly built like a loving tank.

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

HEAVYARMS
Toga is basically a ninja and also a teen so anyone with a combat quirk has no excuse

Dr Subterfuge
Aug 31, 2005

TIME TO ROC N' ROLL
A teen who's prodigiously good at killing/combat, so maybe not quite the same thing.

Question Friend
Aug 3, 2018

by FactsAreUseless
I'm tired of all these Trump lovers defending Deku

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012
For the record the original script was for Deku to be quirkless but an editor or one of the execs wanted him to have a power so uh

Blame meddling I guess

Terper
Jun 26, 2012


I'm glad they did.

Rhonne
Feb 13, 2012

Deku is cool.

Babysitter Super Sleuth
Apr 26, 2012

my posts are as bad the Current Releases review of Gone Girl

Hihohe posted:

Thats what im thinking. His whole thing should be being as annoying as possible and impossible to pin down. Learn some rope-a-dope, some yo mamma jokes and take a psychology class and he could always have enough time and way to get under people skin and make them speak up.

Imagine, a Spider-Man you can't even tell to shut the gently caress up

Brother Entropy
Dec 27, 2009

TheKingofSprings posted:

For the record the original script was for Deku to be quirkless but an editor or one of the execs wanted him to have a power so uh

Blame meddling I guess

they were right to meddle

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


As neat as it would have been to have had a powerless main character, One for All is a really cool twist on a classic power so I'm glad it happened.

RuanGacho
Jun 20, 2002

"You're gunna break it!"

This thread has probably covered this before but I thought this was cool.

On the latest with Deku, the mangaka recently gave an interview saying that we're About 80% through the manga original plan of the story he wanted to tell, but of course implied that things had changed a bit.

I would be very happy if Deku's story is told and wrapped up before it got shonen this has been going on too long syndrome.

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Viridiant
Nov 7, 2009

Big PP Energy
I remember it being said elsewhere that he wanted to follow the kids through their entire high school career, so that might be the new plan.

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