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Jonathan Fisk posted:the mcu is a children's fantasy environment that has divinely inspired half-animals and strongmen fighting robots, aliens and the undead to stabilize the universe's supply of magic As long as movies are made in the real world by real people they’re going to reflect real-world politics, sorry
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is team umizoomi sufficiently radical? my 50,000 page thesis
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Aug 5, 2018 21:09
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Pablo Nergigante posted:As long as movies are made in the real world by real people they’re going to reflect real-world politics, sorry nah
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Aug 5, 2018 21:18
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Movies do ~reflect~ politics. But there is a colossal gap between reflecting and shaping politics.
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Aug 5, 2018 21:30
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this is an era where frog memes elected donald trump president, all brands are woke brands
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Aug 5, 2018 21:53
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In the movie a monarch defeats an insurrectionist and decides an outreach center is preferable to a populist revolution and the movie is financed by people who have agendas but we shouldn't casually comment with extremely obvious readings of it because, uh
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Aug 5, 2018 23:44
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ideally b/c you could do something of greater consequence than getting serious about superhero ethics in comic book stories which operate in a universe that only superficially resembles ours thanos is the good guy, from a malthusian perspective, and it's horrendous what ne$$$tle is doing
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Farrier Theaks posted:this is an era where frog memes elected donald trump president, all brands are woke brands i want doge prez
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Aug 6, 2018 00:34
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Jonathan Fisk posted:ideally b/c you could do something of greater consequence than getting serious about superhero ethics in comic book stories which operate in a universe that only superficially resembles ours The minute and a half I spent thinking about it could have been put to such greater use!
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Aug 6, 2018 00:41
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that, applied to every lovely movie or tv show
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Aug 6, 2018 00:59
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I won't even mention video games or anime out of self preservation
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Aug 6, 2018 01:00
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Jonathan Fisk posted:ideally b/c you could do something of greater consequence than posting on an internet forum
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The Kingfish posted:I read a lot in TGRS about how Killmonger is obviously terrible and villainous because of the way he treats women or something. But then I watched the movie and it’s clear he was not wrong. I mean he does literally murder his girlfriend the instant she becomes inconvenient to him. Seems pretty consistent to not just let that slide.
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Aug 6, 2018 02:03
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Jonathan Fisk posted:the mcu is a children's fantasy environment that has divinely inspired half-animals and strongmen fighting robots, aliens and the undead to stabilize the universe's supply of magic
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Aug 6, 2018 02:06
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super hero movies are for children
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Aug 6, 2018 02:07
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Jonathan Fisk posted:ideally b/c you could do something of greater consequence than getting serious about superhero ethics in comic book stories which operate in a universe that only superficially resembles ours you paid ten dollars to post on a message board dumbass
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Aug 6, 2018 02:08
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little munchkin posted:super hero movies are for children Things made for children are political too
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I mean he does literally murder his girlfriend the instant she becomes inconvenient to him. Seems pretty consistent to not just let that slide. When does that happen? I’ve read this before but I don’t remember the scene.
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Aug 6, 2018 02:10
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The Kingfish posted:When does that happen? I’ve read this before but I don’t remember the scene. Right at the end of the first act iirc, Klaue takes her hostage, Killmonger immediately shoots her in the head and then shoots Klaue, and then reveals that he's Wakandan while Klaue laughs and laughs until he's killed.
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Aug 6, 2018 02:27
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God strike me down if I have ever spent money on this site
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Aug 6, 2018 02:50
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and ye posting is objectively a waste of time but I make no attempt to disguise it by dissecting children's media for ways to connect my pet perspectives
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Aug 6, 2018 02:53
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Jonathan Fisk posted:and ye posting is objectively a waste of time but you could have stopped here
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Aug 6, 2018 02:54
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 me tho that's not a woke brand
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TycfDgg4acY
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Aug 6, 2018 02:56
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Jonathan Fisk posted:and ye posting is objectively a waste of time but I make no attempt to disguise it by dissecting children's media for ways to connect my pet perspectives You should take more pride in your work
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Aug 6, 2018 02:57
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Right at the end of the first act iirc, Klaue takes her hostage, Killmonger immediately shoots her in the head and then shoots Klaue, and then reveals that he's Wakandan while Klaue laughs and laughs until he's killed. A powerful moral about how class will always trump other identities. Killmonger is royalty and no racial solidarity or personal attachment will risk that.
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Aug 6, 2018 03:13
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Andy Serkis playing a cackling lunatic cyborg with an arm cannon was great. But yeah, basically.
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Aug 6, 2018 03:20
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I kind of see it more as the kind of ruthless revolutionary pragmatism that led Che Guevara to just shoot dudes on the spot and without warning during the Cuban revolution
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Aug 6, 2018 03:25
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Pablo Nergigante posted:As long as movies are made in the real world by real people they’re going to reflect real-world politics, sorry
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Aug 6, 2018 03:33
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You should be worried about the garbage we let our children eat and watch
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Aug 6, 2018 03:35
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get that OUT of my face posted:a society that looks for pop culture to reflect real-world politics and passes it off as a good thing is a very sick society I never said whether it was a good thing or a bad thing, Plok
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Aug 6, 2018 03:37
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It's funny to me that the world is a festering ultranationalist shitpile and whatnot but we're not supposed to waste any precious time questioning how every movie has the CIA or some other alphabet agency or even just purely and baldly the US armed forces as the good guys. Even a dying, moribund culture like that of the 21st century United States needs to be critiqued, or how do you think it got that way in the first place?
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Aug 6, 2018 03:38
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Calibanibal posted:You should be worried about the garbage we let our children eat and watch The children have infinitely worse problems than their choices of entertainment.
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Aug 6, 2018 03:43
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Oh sorry. ithought this was the #brand thread my bad
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TomViolence posted:It's funny to me that the world is a festering ultranationalist shitpile and whatnot but we're not supposed to waste any precious time questioning how every movie has the CIA or some other alphabet agency or even just purely and baldly the US armed forces as the good guys. Even a dying, moribund culture like that of the 21st century United States needs to be critiqued, or how do you think it got that way in the first place? and yes, they're saying that Black Panther is an important film for superficial reasons, in spite of its "security state as the good guy" undertones
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Aug 6, 2018 03:48
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Who is this "they", these yale critics or w/e. Any literate moron can critique art. Even I could, if I learned how to read
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Calibanibal posted:Who is this "they", these yale critics or w/e. Any literate moron can critique art. Even I could, if I learned how to read
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get that OUT of my face posted:that's not what today's critics are doing. that world suits them just fine on account of them being privileged shitheads who went to places like yale or wesleyan or whatever. they're too busy looking unanimously agreeing that Nanette is a revolution in comedy when it's just a one-woman show with some jokes in it, or unanimously saying that Who Is America is bad because we're in such a terrible time that we're not supposed to be laughing at it I was just talking about the impossibility of creating apolitical art, I don’t know how you got to this from that
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Pablo Nergigante posted:I was just talking about the impossibility of creating apolitical art, I don’t know how you got to this from that
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