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SlothfulCobra posted:I've kinda thought Crusader Kings could use a layer where it just has landless characters who have armies so they're trackable and you could play characters like most of the prominent crusaders in the first crusade. It could also add some depth to mercenary companies and give some flavor to moving your army or retinue around. It already tracks landless characters with armies with its adventurer mechanics. Although they aren't playable and only have two modes - a)fight a claim war or b)raid until squashed or offered land.
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Aug 6, 2018 11:47
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ooooh is there an event where you get so mad at a barbarian envoy that you have a massive stroke and die
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Aug 6, 2018 12:00
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Goon Danton posted:ooooh "Quinctilius Varus, give me back my Legions!" Your ruler has died of severe stress.
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Aug 6, 2018 12:31
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woah is there a release date for this already?
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Aug 6, 2018 13:11
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Kassad posted:"Quinctilius Varus, give me back my Legions!" Also a good imperial death, but I meant this guy: Wikipedia posted:In return for supplying fresh recruits to the Roman army, the Quadi were to be allowed to leave in peace. However, before the envoys left they were granted an audience with Valentinian. The envoys insisted that the conflict was caused by the building of Roman forts in their lands; furthermore individual bands of Quadi were not necessarily bound to the rule of the chiefs who had made treaties with the Romans – and thus might attack the Romans at any time. The attitude of the envoys so enraged Valentinian that he suffered a burst blood vessel in the skull while angrily yelling at them, provoking his death on November 17, 375.
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Aug 6, 2018 13:40
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Goon Danton posted:Also a good imperial death, but I meant this guy: "lol nice meltdown" - the Quadi
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Aug 6, 2018 15:07
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Wanna be a mad Imperator named Bigus Dickus, with his wife Incontinentia because I'm a giant Fuckin' dork.
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Aug 6, 2018 15:13
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Goon Danton posted:Also a good imperial death, but I meant this guy: I'd never heard about it, that's hilarious 
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Aug 6, 2018 15:30
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Kassad posted:I'd never heard about it, that's hilarious The Valentinian family was loving cursed. But they survived a long rear end time. Despite it never ending well for any of em.
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Aug 6, 2018 15:38
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Ok, I'm finally getting close to finishing off a full Charlemagne ironman start. I've done plenty of games from the Old Gods and high middle ages, but I always got bored at like 1100 from Charlemagne so I never got the cheevo. Now the Kingdom of Frisia is alive and well at 1275, having gained its independence in like 900 when the HRE and the empire of Germania split in a brutal succession war. Ideally these last 150 years or so will be fairly peaceful but its getting to the point where my one gigaduchy/retinue can't produce enough troops to prevent at least one or two rebellions each time my ruler dies. I do have plenty of cash, so I've been using mercs to solve for this, but it is getting dicier. Honestly, taking the suggestion from earlier in the thread to raise a bunch of ambitious, spymaster daughters and then sending them off to marry second or third sons of neighboring powers has paid major dividends. There have been at least three succession wars in the HRE in the last 60 years because the people in the way of my new son-in-law just keep up and dying to food poisoning! Chefs in the HRE and Germania need some licensing or something. It should be noted that the pretty borders faction is long dead in Frisia, and may never be revived until I convert it to EU4 and sell some provinces or something.
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Aug 6, 2018 16:30
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CharlestheHammer posted:The Valentinian family was loving cursed. You know how every group of friends always had that one horrible train wreck of a person they hang around?
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Aug 6, 2018 20:40
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Zodiac5000 posted:Ok, I'm finally getting close to finishing off a full Charlemagne ironman start. I've done plenty of games from the Old Gods and high middle ages, but I always got bored at like 1100 from Charlemagne so I never got the cheevo. Now the Kingdom of Frisia is alive and well at 1275, having gained its independence in like 900 when the HRE and the empire of Germania split in a brutal succession war. Ideally these last 150 years or so will be fairly peaceful but its getting to the point where my one gigaduchy/retinue can't produce enough troops to prevent at least one or two rebellions each time my ruler dies. I do have plenty of cash, so I've been using mercs to solve for this, but it is getting dicier. Are you making non-aggression pacts with your vassals? I find the best way to smooth out the transition is to save a few relatives for after your heir succeeds you and marry them off for NAPs with your biggest, crankiest vassals in order to head off their factions.
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Aug 7, 2018 00:01
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Kassad posted:I'd never heard about it, that's hilarious Someone in an older incarnation of this thread would post historical contexts in different periods of (iirc) France, and the best part of each update was the list of Stupid Royal Deaths of the era. Wish I could still find those.
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Aug 7, 2018 00:45
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I managed to gently caress up the Charlie start so hard that my vassals made me abdicate before my mom could kill Karlo.
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Aug 7, 2018 11:02
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Soho Joe posted:I managed to gently caress up the Charlie start so hard that my vassals made me abdicate before my mom could kill Karlo. 
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Aug 7, 2018 11:45
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Soho Joe posted:I managed to gently caress up the Charlie start so hard that my vassals made me abdicate before my mom could kill Karlo. In my game Karlo declared war on Lombardy on about day two and promptly died in battle
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Aug 7, 2018 16:26
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Azhais posted:In my game Karlo declared war on Lombardy on about day two and promptly died in battle Poor Karloman, thought of Italy and died.
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Aug 7, 2018 17:27
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Whenever I get Glitterhoof with a religion that can get concubines, I always make sure to make her my concubine.
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Aug 7, 2018 17:56
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DrSunshine posted:Whenever I get Glitterhoof with a religion that can get concubines, I always make sure to make her my concubine. loving hell dude. I just stick to silly stuff like making her an apprentice to get her into the Hermetics or court physician or a nun.
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Aug 7, 2018 18:10
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How do I get into this satanic devilry you guys are discussing? I have the expansion but don’t know really how religion works.
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Aug 7, 2018 18:11
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chaosapiant posted:How do I get into this satanic devilry you guys are discussing? I have the expansion but don’t know really how religion works. The devil worshipper cults aren't an actual religion in the game. They're a secret society that has members from all kinds of different religions. Well this kind of depends. Basically all the abrahamic religions use Lucifer's Own, and some of the non-abrahamic religions have their own flavor of devil worshippers that only inlcude members of their religion. But as long as your character has a sinful trait you can basically put it out there that you're down with devil worship. You do this by hitting the Societies tab and opening up the side panel that lists all your available societies. The devil worshipper one should have an icon next to it with a tiny little red exclamation point on it. You click that and you're on your way. Sooner or later a member of their secret society will contact you and start saying things that question your religion. You just go with the flow and before you know it you're carving an unholy symbol into your arm and banging a member to seal the deal. Then you're in. From there you want high Intrigue to gain more Dark Power and you'll be given missions to sacrifice various people, desecrate temples, and impregnate female members with devilspawn. You'll get events involving perverse orgies and hosed up dreams that lead to you maybe brutally murdering somebody because your dude takes the dream as a sign of trouble, and so on. Basically if you're playing a game type where murder is extremely important (like republics) devil worshippers are a good choice. It's especially nice if you rise to the top rank because at that point all members will always agree with any diplomatic proposal, including vassalization! They'll also agree to come to your court which is useful because you can flood your court with very agreeable subordinates who will super-juice up your plot chances. E: oh eh there's downsides, of course. You're gonna pick up more sinful traits over time and even congenital defects like ugly, hunchbacked, clubfooted, etc. Also if you get too crazy with the Satan magic people will figure you out and stuff like excommunication can happen. Honky Dong Country fucked around with this message at 18:26 on Aug 7, 2018 |
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Aug 7, 2018 18:23
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It also gives you the most effective way to counter diseases and a way to live for a very long time by consuming your own children My current game I went full tengri-devil-worship with my first ruler. The fucker lived up to 115 years old doing all kinds of evil and was still loved by most of his vassals
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Aug 7, 2018 18:53
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Damnit, I didn't know kowtowing to the emperor had a chance of forcing me to be a tributary. Guess I am rooting for civil war then, but at least the general i got is pretty cool.
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Aug 7, 2018 19:11
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I'm doing a 1066 William of Normandy run. His son got married to a dwarf lady and they had some kids. Then the son died in a battle and the regency of the dwarf Queen began. After loving poo poo up for about 12 years, the grandson finally came of age, so he made his mom the court dwarf. That's my story
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Aug 7, 2018 19:26
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Don't forget the kidnapping! As a devil worshiper (or assassin) you can kidnap anyone not related to a duke or above. If you kidnap unlanded unmarried characters you can then recruit them from your prison just like any other prisoner. They won't like you very much, but that doesn't really matter for military commanders or chinese specialists. If your primary religion allows concubines you can kidnap unlanded women, even married women, and force them to become your concubines. From there you can marry them off to whoever you like. They won't like you very much, but they will like whoever you married them off to just fine. Good times if you like playing the eugenics game. (This usually can't get you claims on any title above count.) If you kidnap small children you can try to educate them into switching to your religion and culture. That can be useful if you want try to matri-marry the sayyid trait into your line or something.
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Aug 7, 2018 19:31
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I tried out the character creator for the first time in my Georgia game, and dwarfism's great. It gives you more points for other traits, and then you can use your relatives for court dwarves. A real shame that run somehow got corrupted. The latest dev diary made systems to boost the reconquista and help holy orders get established in eastern Europe. I hope that means weaker Umayyad blobs, and it'll probably make things more dynamic overall for Christendom to crush paganism, although it's a little bittersweet to not have weird pagan artifacts or the occasional NPC reformation.
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Aug 7, 2018 19:41
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Various Meat Products posted:Are you making non-aggression pacts with your vassals? I find the best way to smooth out the transition is to save a few relatives for after your heir succeeds you and marry them off for NAPs with your biggest, crankiest vassals in order to head off their factions. I have not tried that! That may be worth doing. Last night I took a few hammers to the bigger duchies throughout my kingdoms after one of the rebellions, so that will probably smooth things out for a time. I also finally disabled internal war after disbanding the council. Feels so good man.
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Aug 7, 2018 19:43
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I solve succession crisis in my France game with intrigue focus and murder
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Aug 7, 2018 19:57
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Any tips on playing a Merchant Republic/is it even worth it if I want to try something new?
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Aug 7, 2018 21:00
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Armacham posted:After loving poo poo up for about 12 years, the grandson finally came of age, so he made his mom the court dwarf. mods
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Aug 7, 2018 21:10
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SlothfulCobra posted:I tried out the character creator for the first time in my Georgia game, and dwarfism's great. It gives you more points for other traits, and then you can use your relatives for court dwarves. A real shame that run somehow got corrupted. Don't forget pagans are getting reformation reworks, too. We could see more interesting (or weird and terrible) reformed pagans from now on.
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Aug 7, 2018 21:11
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Sydin posted:Any tips on playing a Merchant Republic/is it even worth it if I want to try something new? merchant republics are great. you're a jumped up commoner with more money than god who can buy all of the mercenaries and become a big time player -you are locked into the 'five families' succession. this is not hard to manipulate with piles of gold and constant, ruthless murder -really if you thought that you needed to murder people before you played republics, whoo boy. wow. its just a constant borgia style murder fest. scheming satanists are extremely powerful as republican patricians -trade posts are your number one priority, aside from unceasing murder. you want to have a big, contiguous trade zone. it is important that your trade zone is one large single piece. a trade zone that is 7 posts big is better than two trade zones of 4 posts each. you will control a sea zone if you hold a majority of trade posts adjacent to that zone. preference "trade value" over "tax income", especially in posts where you don't hold a city -expansion is easy because you have a CB to grab any city in a province where you have a trade post, then later you can grab the county -you can also grab cities for your other rival patricians. this is great if they are a different religion and you have the free religious title revocation policy -retinues are more important. you will be pissing cash so having a big retinue is no big deal. a beastly republic will hardly ever need to raise vassal levies, retinue and personal levies will often do the job -don't land your sons if possible. every adult male of your dynasty in your court is +1 trade post you can hold. also you will want to have city level vassals because castle holders will get a malus to a liege of the "wrong type". remember that cities are not hereditary, so if you land your dynasty with a city and no castles then eventually it will pass to some rando! one trick you can do if you have surplus males is grant them a newly conquered castle or two, place them as a baron beneath a mayor count, then harvest a crop of young adult men in 20 years by inviting them to your court Mr. Fall Down Terror fucked around with this message at 21:15 on Aug 7, 2018 |
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Aug 7, 2018 21:13
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Honky Dong Country posted:loving hell dude. I just stick to silly stuff like making her an apprentice to get her into the Hermetics or court physician or a nun. https://twitter.com/vp/status/863182608552906755?lang=en
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Aug 7, 2018 21:14
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Thanks, I'll give it a whirl. Seems like a fun way to enjoy some of the more stabby bits the game has to offer.
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Aug 7, 2018 21:25
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I've got another newbie confusion question. My France start is going OK so far (my next succession is gonna be horrible, my only son ended up with 6 diplo so everyone's gonna hate him) One thing I know is going to happen sooner or later is a major war with the Umayyads. I've been keeping an eye on troop counts just so I know how bad it'll be, and I noticed something weird:  How does he have 2k/1k personal levies, and 23k/14k vassal levies? Is the over cap troop levies a Sunni thing?
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Aug 7, 2018 21:26
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OK, so, I'm thinking of making an events and flavor mod based on a kind of eldritch horror theme. Basically, in addition to expanding a few of the Cthulhu-related events that you get as a lunatic Norse, and the Necronomicon that you get when you take the Mystic option in Scholarship, I want to add a bunch of other events that kind of build on that. For example, if you're on a coastal county, there's a chance that a treasure chest might wash up on shore that leads you on an event chain to discover a sunken city, etc. Or explore a town hiding some kind of horrifying fish cult (with the option to become a fish cultist yourself of course). There'd be a bunch of secret cults you could join, human sacrifices, and so on, and maybe a couple that could mirror the End of the Cycle and EMBRACE THE WORM from Stellaris. Any suggestions or things you'd personally want to see in such a mod?
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Aug 7, 2018 21:44
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Vassalize the pope before you die
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Aug 7, 2018 21:46
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Sydin posted:Any tips on playing a Merchant Republic/is it even worth it if I want to try something new? Oh yeah they are hell of powerful but it can't be repeated enough. Never stop stabbing. Ever. That post before about constant murder? Yeah. Prune the other houses pretty much nonstop. There will always be five but you can keep them from being a problem. It's kind of a slow start but before long you'll have an insane fire hose of gold. The absolute first thing you should do is make sure you have your capital's trading post. Then get the capital's cities. You can hold both cities and castles but you want more cities. The gold income is loving bonkers. Holding the castle in your capital is still handy for that levy boost. If you play Venice spam spear dudes. The morale bonus from their special building makes them punch way above their weight. For maximum fun start tribal in Scandinavia then go republic.
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DrSunshine posted:Any suggestions or things you'd personally want to see in such a mod? A mayor in your court having some kind of event chain because their town is all in some kind of cult or it's silent hill would be neat. Maybe an event for there being some kind of ancient city full of shoggoths underground? I don't know if the hellmouth event is still in the game. The trouble is most Lovecraft stuff that I know of doesn't want to be something actionable, just characters going crazy and dying. Maybe a bunch of flavor events like getting mind-swapped by the Great Race of Yith? Or some cult popping up (or joining a cult) that can go through some special actions and bring about the awakening or return of some elder god that can bring the game to an early end? Just suggestions. I like to read about Lovecraft a lot, but I've never had much interest in the original stories.
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