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Eej posted:There was a great thread a couple days ago that I can't find anymore cause Twitter search sucks but it was about how Polynesian migration success varied greatly based on what kind of islands they ended up on. On the low islands with minimal freshwater and arable land they could barely survive even though they could walk around and breathe the air and catch fish from the ocean as compared to a space colony. The key financial factor that I’ve seen deliberately avoided in every comparison about this is the ecological cost. In space you could do things eqivelent to strip mining and dumping coal ash in the rivers. Your only concern need be loose debris and dust being flung away from the local area. While you still need large machines for things like crushing and grinding but your equipment overhead for motion in the local area drops to almost nothing. It’s also a matter of scale. You take an average asteroid and you can reinvest 90% of it’s metals into resource extraction infrastructure and the remaining 10% is enough for a Oneil cylinder or two So yes in the big picture if your only measure is monetary sale value on earth it’s a wash. May as well just slowly deplete terrestrial deposits. But if your goal in anyway involves doing other stuff in space than you win out by doing bulk material processing in space.
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mods changed my name posted:"shuttle crashed on landing due to lack of front and rear ground guides, the NCOIC in charge of runway ops has been dishonorably discharged" Meanwhile the CO of the base gets a Space DSM and promoted to flag.
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Hot Karl Marx posted:SPACE FORCE
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I can't help but except Trump will want to make himself a 4 star general of the space force.
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NASA is running out of functioning space suits and we're going to start a space force.
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I can't wait to see the first Space Force CSM go loving bonkers when he sees SPC Sisterfucker walk on the Martian dirt.
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bulletsponge13 posted:I can't wait to see the first Space Force CSM go loving bonkers when he sees SPC Sisterfucker walk on the Martian dirt. CSM's gonna pull up his helmet to get the full spittle in the face effect on his unfortunate victim, and is gonna choke to death in a vacuum. 
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LongDarkNight posted:NASA is running out of functioning space suits and we're going to start a space force. PT belts and heart are all you need.
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C.M. Kruger posted:Apparently they're also reintroducing government informants in schools. Countdown til trump says that's a good idea in 3, 2...
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Milo and POTUS posted:Countdown til trump says that's a good idea in 3, 2... We'll call them the "Patriot Patrol" and they can wear nice matching shirts
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I love you. I actually think re-establishing US Space Command is a good idea; abolishing it to make room for NORTHCOM was dumb...there's no real reason to restrict the number of COCOMs to 10. A separate service though? Nope. Edit: DoktorLoken posted:Why does this have to be a separate service instead of a combatant command? I mean it'd be one thing if we had large amounts of military personnel actually in space, seems a bit premature at the moment. It's going to be both. No, that doesn't make much sense. Godholio fucked around with this message at 02:32 on Aug 10, 2018 |
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mods changed my name posted:We'll call them the "Patriot Patrol" and they can wear nice matching shirts Brown ones.
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LongDarkNight posted:NASA is running out of functioning space suits and we're going to start a space force. The gently caress do they need functioning space suits for.
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Aug 10, 2018 02:36
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The same thing drone pilots need flightsuits for.
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SNCOs might chill the gently caress out when they realize that SPC Snuffy gonna merc him and kick his rear end out the airlock and people won't know for DAYS.
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not caring here posted:SNCOs might chill the gently caress out when they realize that SPC Snuffy gonna merc him and kick his rear end out the airlock and people won't know for DAYS. My dad told me something like this happened to an rear end in a top hat officer in Vietnam. PUT ME IN COACH I AM READY
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She's amazing. I hope this is representative of what we'll continue to see as our generation takes political power over the next two decades.
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I love her. Read the comments if you want to watch a thousand screeching conservatives claim with no hint of irony that it's absurd for her to assume Shapiro wouldn't debate in good faith.
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I’m not joining Space Force until I get a deflector belt
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It's pretty crazy how breathlessly the conservative sphere is fixated on her, Fox News is just incredulously reporting her statements verbatim. You saw the same thing with the Stoneman students before AOC took the scene. I guess Bernie fit into the classic mold of a crotchety old leftist professor so they could fit him into their existing world model, but having someone young, unafraid, and unwilling to back down an inch is breaking their brains.
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Relentlessboredomm posted:I love her. It really is an endless conga line of people with zero self awareness that start from the basis that he is superior, and therefore owes Shapiro what he wants and it's her failure to not give it.
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Shes also better at social media than of these idiots
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Terrifying Effigies posted:It's pretty crazy how breathlessly the conservative sphere is fixated on her, Fox News is just incredulously reporting her statements verbatim. You saw the same thing with the Stoneman students before AOC took the scene. I guess Bernie fit into the classic mold of a crotchety old leftist professor so they could fit him into their existing world model, but having someone young, unafraid, and unwilling to back down an inch is breaking their brains. They know what's she's talking about resonates with the average American and it terrifies them.
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:They know what's she's talking about resonates with the average American and it terrifies them. It's just hilarious that their approach to dealing with it is to repeatedly read off her platform while making shocked faces.  "She wants Medicare for All, jobs guarantees, and fully fund public schools and universities!?"
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Terrifying Effigies posted:It's pretty crazy how breathlessly the conservative sphere is fixated on her, Fox News is just incredulously reporting her statements verbatim. You saw the same thing with the Stoneman students before AOC took the scene. I guess Bernie fit into the classic mold of a crotchety old leftist professor so they could fit him into their existing world model, but having someone young, unafraid, and unwilling to back down an inch is breaking their brains. It's a paradigm shift and they're absolutely helpless because they're used to just going "OH MY GOD BECKY LOOK AT THIS" and being able to make a wedge issue out of everything. If they start parroting purity test bullshit though? It'll be a bloodbath.
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:They know what's she's talking about resonates with the average American and it terrifies them. There was that amazing article where one female conservative writer self-owned as she talked about how convincing AOC was at some rally event. Terrifying Effigies posted:It's just hilarious that their approach to dealing with it is to repeatedly read off her platform while making shocked faces. There's an argument that right wing media is used to owning centrists and liberals who don't stand for anything and can't adjust to AOC. It's easy to strawman someone who makes only vague promises. Putting forward clear concise policy ideas is much much harder to deal with and the right wing is too fat and lazy from making GBS threads on liberals to pull it off effectively.
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Relentlessboredomm posted:There was that amazing article where one female conservative writer self-owned as she talked about how convincing AOC was at some rally event. Don't worry, the average conservative has just latched on to the "socialist" part and is attacking her for that. And the "libertarians" are ranting about how Healthcare the way she wants it will be awful.
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WAR CRIME SYNDICAT posted:Don't worry, the average conservative has just latched on to the "socialist" part and is attacking her for that. The socialist thing is hilarious because that's not a real winning strategy anymore. And lol at libertarians. "It would be awful to have gov't run healthcare, if we just allowed more competition in the market everything would sort itself out. I'm a willfully ignorant fool who thinks a corporations profit motive will align consistently with the health and welfare of an entire society"
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She's rad and I wanna give her a high five
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I wish severe violence on every rear end in a top hat that Twitter-shits or publishes think pieces about how we can just never possibly afford not-poo poo health care as a society. If they then go further and praise Trump for the tax cuts I want them to get mega cancer of the rear end in a top hat.
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Relentlessboredomm posted:The socialist thing is hilarious because that's not a real winning strategy anymore. Libertarians might be dumber than loving conservatives at this point though I'm still on the fence about it.
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Nostalgia4Butts posted:She's rad and I wanna give her a high five You can give her  The only state level progressive candidate in a primary is Jahana Hayes, but there might be some DSA people at your local level.
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To pull from the latest issue of the New York Magazine. The triumph of the neoliberal consensus, post-1989, was to naturalize the economy. Here are these laws that are fairly apolitical, untouchable, the equivalent of the laws of nature. What the financial crisis, and then the response to the financial crisis, did was to denaturalize that again. What was once viewed as laws of nature are once more seen as laws of men. And the laws of men can be changed. Libertarians cannot accept that political economics is the original and rightful form of economics. 
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golden bubble posted:To pull from the latest issue of the New York Magazine. I think every libertarian should be strapped to a chair Alex DeLarge style and be forced to read any Gabriel Kolko book
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Retardog posted:I’m not joining Space Force until I get a deflector belt That's just asking for a lasgun incident.
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Terrifying Effigies posted:It's pretty crazy how breathlessly the conservative sphere is fixated on her, Fox News is just incredulously reporting her statements verbatim. You saw the same thing with the Stoneman students before AOC took the scene. I guess Bernie fit into the classic mold of a crotchety old leftist professor so they could fit him into their existing world model, but having someone young, unafraid, and unwilling to back down an inch is breaking their brains. They can just call her names, make poo poo up and misquote/lie by omission her like they do with everyone else. The real question is why they haven't done so yet.
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Dance Officer posted:They can just call her names, make poo poo up and misquote/lie by omission her like they do with everyone else. The real question is why they haven't done so yet. They want her to remain viable because they think she will damage the Democrats in the long run?
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Milo and POTUS posted:Libertarians might be dumber than loving conservatives at this point though I'm still on the fence about it. They absolutely are, conservatives are completely amoral black holes of greed that will say and do anything to enrich themselves at any cost but libertarians actually believe that poo poo.
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