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Come to think of it, Metal Gear is cyberpunk as all gently caress. It even manages pre-cyberpunk with the Big Boss games, kinda.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:It even manages pre-cyberpunk with the Big Boss games, kinda. I'm not sure what's "pre" about MGS3 and so on, since they do everything they can to replicate the conditions of the games that follow them, time line-wise. Where did Cipher come from? Oh, it was Major Zero stealing the crown from the previous world-spanning technocratic conspiracy. The story of which includes everything from internationally staged wars, down to codec calls that imply you're being monitored closely at all times even deep in some godforsaken jungle. (I love that they bizarrely removed codecs from MGS5, but then replaced most of their function with a holographic PDA…and also added vaping.)
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That Old Tree posted:I'm not sure what's "pre" about MGS3 and so on, since they do everything they can to replicate the conditions of the games that follow them, time line-wise. Where did Cipher come from? Oh, it was Major Zero stealing the crown from the previous world-spanning technocratic conspiracy. The story of which includes everything from internationally staged wars, down to codec calls that imply you're being monitored closely at all times even deep in some godforsaken jungle. (I love that they bizarrely removed codecs from MGS5, but then replaced most of their function with a holographic PDA…and also added vaping.) A lot of that comes from Peace Walker, which is basically the prototype for MGS5. Weirdly, a lot of things were limited because it was originally a PSP game (No humanoid bosses because they'd be too small to stand out on the small screen, bite-sized missions and multiplayer focus, etc) but I'm pretty sure that it only really blew up when it was ported to home consoles people actually owned. It also had the vaping. (back when they were called 'electronic cigarettes'. Funnily enough Otacon's dad had one because he couldn't smoke normally in server rooms) Actually funny thing in Peace Walker is that they show off at least five different kinds of smoking, and have some focus on each. (Cigarettes, cigars, snuff, e-cigs, and I think lip pouch tobacco?)
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Aug 11, 2018 06:25
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Not every sci-fi dystopia is cyberpunk.
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Aug 11, 2018 11:17
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Hel posted:Not every sci-fi dystopia is cyberpunk. I mean it's not really a stretch to say that the Metal Gear Solid series has a decent overlap with cyberpunk themes particularly in the later installments like 4 and Revengeance.
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Aug 11, 2018 11:43
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If Cyborg Ninjas brought back to life for nefarious purposes who fight against their programming for the sake of friends and honor in a world filled with weird tech and lorded over by corporate interests who push forever war isn't cyberpunk, what is?
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remusclaw posted:If Cyborg Ninjas brought back to life for nefarious purposes who fight against their programming for the sake of friends and honor in a world filled with weird tech and lorded over by corporate interests who push forever war isn't cyberpunk, what is? Like the plot of Metal Gear Solid Revengeance is all about a Senator who plans on jumpstarting the flagging war economy with a false flag terrorist attack on a US military base, meanwhile the PMC he's partnered up with is mass-producing child soldiers by kidnapping kids, extracting their brains, and putting them through virtual reality conditioning. You manage to save them from becoming soldiers but the best you can do for them at that point is to put them in prosthetic bodies and help set them up as a kind of cyborg temp service because nobody's interested in just charitably helping a bunch of brutally traumatized disembodied street urchins. In the end you kill the Senator in question but his plan still winds up working because America always wants an excuse to go to war with someone, and the main character has been disabused of the notion that he's more than a guy who really enjoys killing people and so he abandons his wife, child, and dog-shaped robot buddy to continue to wage a bloody one-man war against the PMC.
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Aug 11, 2018 12:52
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I'm looking for a novice-level rpg game, for 3 people. the goal is to focus on the role-playing/collaborative storytelling, supported by a bit of stats (enough to tickle the imagination but not enough to be intimidating), and not the combat encounter tactics part of certain rpgs. Does such a thing exist?
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Aug 11, 2018 19:59
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double nine posted:I'm looking for a novice-level rpg game, for 3 people. the goal is to focus on the role-playing/collaborative storytelling, supported by a bit of stats (enough to tickle the imagination but not enough to be intimidating), and not the combat encounter tactics part of certain rpgs. Does such a thing exist? Sure, try a good PbtA game probably. Like Apocalypse World 2e or Monsterhearts 2e or something.
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Aug 11, 2018 20:00
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double nine posted:I'm looking for a novice-level rpg game, for 3 people. the goal is to focus on the role-playing/collaborative storytelling, supported by a bit of stats (enough to tickle the imagination but not enough to be intimidating), and not the combat encounter tactics part of certain rpgs. Does such a thing exist? Ryuutama is also really good at all of those things.
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Aug 11, 2018 20:09
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double nine posted:I'm looking for a novice-level rpg game, for 3 people. the goal is to focus on the role-playing/collaborative storytelling, supported by a bit of stats (enough to tickle the imagination but not enough to be intimidating), and not the combat encounter tactics part of certain rpgs. Does such a thing exist? Check out the Spark RPG, it's very stat light, the players and GM build the setting together (optionally, it includes three settings and there's an additional book that uses Spark called Sig which is basically Indie Storygame Planescape), and scenes are collectively negotiated.
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Aug 11, 2018 20:11
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double nine posted:I'm looking for a novice-level rpg game, for 3 people. the goal is to focus on the role-playing/collaborative storytelling, supported by a bit of stats (enough to tickle the imagination but not enough to be intimidating), and not the combat encounter tactics part of certain rpgs. Does such a thing exist? I've been recently recommending Slasher Flick is a good introduction. It's light, has a distinct and recognizable theme, is made for one-offs, and player are rewarded for roleplaying to typecast. It's a good exercise is teaching people how to roleplay character flaws.
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double nine posted:I'm looking for a novice-level rpg game, for 3 people. the goal is to focus on the role-playing/collaborative storytelling, supported by a bit of stats (enough to tickle the imagination but not enough to be intimidating), and not the combat encounter tactics part of certain rpgs. Does such a thing exist?
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double nine posted:I'm looking for a novice-level rpg game, for 3 people. the goal is to focus on the role-playing/collaborative storytelling, supported by a bit of stats (enough to tickle the imagination but not enough to be intimidating), and not the combat encounter tactics part of certain rpgs. Does such a thing exist? If you're looking for a classic fantasy adventure game that meets all that, I'd recommend Fellowship. I basically designed it to be collaborative and easy to get into for players new to traditional gaming.
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Splicer posted:Three including GM or four total? Is the GM also a novice? it'd be me and two others. And while I've played a shitload of crpgs and watched a fair number of tabletop rpg sessions on the youtubes, I have NO experience. SO hence I want to get something that's a bit idiot-proof. I'll be checking out the suggestions here, thanks all.
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I re-watched the Guy Richie Sherlock Holmes film today, and the opening scene got me thinking: has anyone ever tried a story with Holmes where at the end he uncovers that the plot/villain is Lovecraftian in nature? That seems like a cross-over that would have happened by now.
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Aug 12, 2018 11:34
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gradenko_2000 posted:I re-watched the Guy Richie Sherlock Holmes film today, and the opening scene got me thinking: has anyone ever tried a story with Holmes where at the end he uncovers that the plot/villain is Lovecraftian in nature? That seems like a cross-over that would have happened by now. Even discounting A Study in Emerald, which isn't exactly what you're asking for, I'm sure that the answer to this must be a yes even without checking because people have mashed up Lovecraft with everything by this point.
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Aug 12, 2018 11:40
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Speaking of which, thanks to everyone who reminded me of pokethulhu. I'm running a game next week.
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gradenko_2000 posted:I re-watched the Guy Richie Sherlock Holmes film today, and the opening scene got me thinking: has anyone ever tried a story with Holmes where at the end he uncovers that the plot/villain is Lovecraftian in nature? That seems like a cross-over that would have happened by now. There's a collection someone put out a while ago called Shadows over Baker Street that's pretty much "What if Sherlock but also Lovecraft?" It has A Study in Emerald in the collection as well as a handful of others.
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gradenko_2000 posted:I re-watched the Guy Richie Sherlock Holmes film today, and the opening scene got me thinking: has anyone ever tried a story with Holmes where at the end he uncovers that the plot/villain is Lovecraftian in nature? That seems like a cross-over that would have happened by now. There's a series of Sherlock Holmes video games by a studio called Frogwares, and one of the first few games in the series had Holmes investigating Cthulhu mythos stuff. Their upcoming game is also straight up just a CoC game. Lemon-Lime fucked around with this message at 16:59 on Aug 12, 2018 |
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To get even dorkier, there's a licensed tie-in novel called The All-Consuming Fire that's Sherlock Holmes and Doctor Who investigate Eldritch horrors.
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I spotted these at Barnes & Noble yesterday: https://www.amazon.com/Sherlock-Holmes-vs-Cthulhu-Dimensions/dp/1785652087
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The usual answer to the question of "Has someone combined [nerd thing 1] with [nerd thing 2]?" is usually "Yes, and then they hot-glued useless brass gears to it."
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Like cyberpunk!
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Sherlock Holmes + Lovecraft is a pretty obvious combo. Alan Moore did Jeeves & Wooster + Cthulhu, that was a fun one.
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Zarick posted:Like cyberpunk! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyGAc-OLAiQ
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Lemon-Lime posted:There's a series of Sherlock Holmes video games by a studio called Frogwares, and one of the first few games in the series had Holmes investigating Cthulhu mythos stuff. Their upcoming game is also straight up just a CoC game. Sherlock Holmes: The Awakened I played through it. It never goes full tilt into Mythos stuff, (I.e. you never encounter monsters) but it borrows heavily from the plot of Call of Cthulhu by sending you to New Orleans and the swamps to investigate a cult. The most terrifying aspect of this game was Watson. He didn’t actually move during gameplay so he was programmed to perpetually respawn behind you in order to simulate following you around, but he wouldn’t respawn as long as he was in your field of view. You could walk backwards a great distance away with him in sight, then spin around and be face to face with him.
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Bosushi! posted:The most terrifying aspect of this game was Watson. He didn’t actually move during gameplay so he was programmed to perpetually respawn behind you in order to simulate following you around, but he wouldn’t respawn as long as he was in your field of view. You could walk backwards a great distance away with him in sight, then spin around and be face to face with him. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13YlEPwOfmk
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9U9Oyney1c4 Fantasy Flight really leaning into that unique printing thing huh, first keyforge now this.
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Rip_Van_Winkle posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9U9Oyney1c4 Lootboxes but for entire boardgames sounds like a super lovely way to go about it.
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At least that looks like a self-contained game with a gimmick kind of like a Legacy game. Keyforge is some horseshit.
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The Deleter posted:At least that looks like a self-contained game with a gimmick kind of like a Legacy game. Keyforge is some horseshit. A 20 - 25 dollar game would be good, and might end up with a kind of swaps scene where after you play your one out you swap it for someone else's, or one where everyone in your group of friends has their own copy, but $60 is... what.
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I wonder how much market there might be for custom-printed board games, or at least 'fill in the blanks' flavour. Hell, given the origins of the hobby, I'm surprised you don't see more stuff like Warhammer encouraging battlemap-based RPGs with custom figures.
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8one6 posted:Lootboxes but for entire boardgames sounds like a super lovely way to go about it. Wouldn't be FFG without them trying to fleece people out of as much money as possible.
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Yeah, FFG gonna FFG. Seems like one of those games that I'd be perfectly willing to play if someone else owns it but I'm probably never buying it myself. I tend to have patience for FFG's shenanigans though.  Keyforge though, man, no way. Can't tolerate knowing that, given the list of cards, you could build a better legal deck, and just, aren't allowed to, because That's The Rules. gently caress that.
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Looks like Dune is getting another TTRPG. I guess no more paying $500 for a copy of Chronicles of the Imperium.
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Kai Tave posted:I mean it's not really a stretch to say that the Metal Gear Solid series has a decent overlap with cyberpunk themes particularly in the later installments like 4 and Revengeance. It definitely isn't a cyberpunk series though. Almost every single game is very openly about preserving the status quo. Yeah, sure, there's a bunch of parts that point out why that's bad, but it's still what you're doing.
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Lurdiak posted:It definitely isn't a cyberpunk series though. Almost every single game is very openly about preserving the status quo. Yeah, sure, there's a bunch of parts that point out why that's bad, but it's still what you're doing. To be fair in every game the change that's being presented is an extremely bad one
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drrockso20 posted:To be fair in every game the change that's being presented is an extremely bad one Wasn't Solidus just going to wipe out the GW AI and then gently caress off? Like what Solid ends up doing 2 games later?
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Moriatti posted:Wasn't Solidus just going to wipe out the GW AI and then gently caress off? Like what Solid ends up doing 2 games later? Solidus didn't really understand what was going on. He just wanted to be in charge.
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