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The motivation is bad but the action (hungry, starving, dying landlord) is good. Can someone who's good at ethics help me with this?
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Salt Fish posted:When my company did mandatory personality tests I didn't do it and then lied about the results and it saved me a lot of time. They went around the room in multiple meetings asking about your "personality color" and how that was informing a decision you were making. I just told them my color was red, and as an A-type high energy extrovert I could feel it in my gut that my choices were right. Yeah, people believe this stuff even though the test is complete hackery, so you might as well backform it to achieve what you want out of it.
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Perry Mason Jar posted:The motivation is bad but the action (hungry, starving, dying landlord) is good. Can someone who's good at ethics help me with this? He is a retired cop, too. EDIT: Also: NYC Post posted:Esposito, who has 27 tenants, said he’s not protesting to protect property values, but to ensure safety. NYC Post posted:Esposito pled guilty in 2014 to a misdemeanor in connection with a massive Social Security fraud scheme in which his father Joseph Esposito was one of the ringleaders. Esposito, who said he has long been on bad terms with his dad, did not get any jail time. VideoGames has issued a correction as of 12:19 on Aug 14, 2018 |
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this is so sad alexa kill esposito
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# ? Aug 14, 2018 12:31 |
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death to landlords
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# ? Aug 14, 2018 12:57 |
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ekuNNN posted:death to landlords No, I don't approve of this at all.
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# ? Aug 14, 2018 13:09 |
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What the gently caress
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# ? Aug 14, 2018 13:15 |
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Death to the rentier class imo
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Sentient Data posted:It's even better than that. I did some backend dev work for the hiring department of a (huge) company a few years ago, and they believe that the tests are real. I was supposed to take the output of the test's API and have it do whatever based on results, and when it came time to test the system, the department's manager was horrified during the live demo when I asked if I should pass or fail the test. "That can't be cheated!" I nearly lost a lab job once because of stupid loving tests like that. Apart from all the standard "would you turn over a turtle" ones, a few of the questions were maths based multiple choice (for a senior lab position ) and for the very final question, all the options given were wrong. A couple seemed likely, but there was a basic error in each where they'd confused some of the times codes for decimal values. E.g. 10:50 isn't ten and a half. So, I wrote out a big explanation on the test about why it was wrong and what the correct answer should be. Because (a) I am that guy in real life and, (b) I thought it was some 4th dimensional chess poo poo and they wanted their staff to be able to spot errors and call them out. Turns out, nope, the HR guy and the company who made the test just hosed up some basic level maths you'd expect a high school kid to be able to do. And boy, were they pissed about it. HR binned my test and wrote that I had insulted the company (I said they were wrong!) and if I hadn't already known half the people who worked in the department I was shooting for, I never would have known about it. And it wouldn't surprise me in the least if that test is still being used somewhere today Megillah Gorilla has issued a correction as of 16:24 on Aug 14, 2018 |
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https://twitter.com/drewtoothpaste/status/1029362552466276352 I feel like this belongs here
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Isaac posted:I worked for a company that had this number matching test during the interview like An acquaintance of mine was interviewing for accounting jobs and interviewing at one firm was going really well, fast-track, etc... Then they told him that he just had to meet with HR as a formality and they proceeded to give him one of those bizarre tests. One of the questions was literally: "Yellow or blue?" "Huh? What do you mean?" "I can only repeat the question: yellow or blue?" "Uhh, blue I guess." I guess they wanted yellow because after that it was "yeah, uh, we'll get back to you" and a week later he was formally rejected.
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The_Franz posted:An acquaintance of mine was interviewing for accounting jobs and interviewing at one firm was going really well, fast-track, etc... Then they told him that he just had to meet with HR as a formality and they proceeded to give him one of those bizarre tests. One of the questions was literally: They literally Monty Pythoned you holy poo poo
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Screaming Idiot posted:"Welcome to Beelzeburger's! What meaty delights shall we tempt you this on this day?" I know I'm late and this was several pages back, but this is good stuff.
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# ? Aug 14, 2018 15:22 |
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ekuNNN posted:death to landlords I tried to take the test but they took down their website and Facebook Quinovic property franchise social media campaign offends tenants quote:A brazen social media campaign by a franchise the property management company Quinovic has disgusted some tenants.
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# ? Aug 14, 2018 15:40 |
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Outrail posted:No I said it's saving lives, and it's important they do that. But when I got into the industry 10 years ago it was fun to do my job. Now it's not and even if the changes were necessary they did take something away even if it was a necessary cost. I can do some Romanticism of the past without denying that the past was also pretty lovely. Those lawsuits wouldn't even be possible without the legal framework developed due to pressure from labor, but eh I get what you're saying
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Megillah Gorilla posted:the standard "would you turn over a turtle" ones Are you sure they weren't testing you to make sure you weren't a replicant
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Outrail posted:Besides that, if the workers had their way they'd be barely trained using gently caress all safety gear. The companies instituted 90% of the changes because they realized getting sued millions of dollars wasn't worth it. If workers owned the enterprise they would reach the same conclusion because money would be coming out of their pockets. Nice random dig against workers though. quote:No I said it's saving lives, and it's important they do that. But when I got into the industry 10 years ago it was fun to do my job. Now it's not and even if the changes were necessary they did take something away even if it was a necessary cost. I dunno what to make of this really. OK? Dangerous things were fun to do and you can't do them anymore and that sucks even though that saves peoples' lives? COMRADES has issued a correction as of 18:40 on Aug 14, 2018 |
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COMRADES posted:I dunno what to make of this really. OK? Dangerous things were fun to do and you can't do them anymore and that sucks even though that saves peoples' lives? Yeah I'm pretty sure that's the gist of it, they personally used to have fun before safety was important and sorta miss that but acknowledge why it had to go away, which yeah sure I guess
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# ? Aug 14, 2018 19:02 |
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I've never met a construction/warehouse/medical/et al worker who grumbled about safety standards? If anything people really pride themselves on observing standards.
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# ? Aug 14, 2018 19:21 |
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It's all fun and games until you don't want to do a thing because it is obviously unsafe and then your boss yells at you because you and your coworkers regularly do it the unsafe way and so that has become an expectation, so you ignore your gut and do the unsafe thing one more time and next thing you know we're reading about your grisly death in the OSHA thread.
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# ? Aug 14, 2018 19:23 |
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this thread makes me sad
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Perry Mason Jar posted:I've never met a construction/warehouse/medical/et al worker who grumbled about safety standards? If anything people really pride themselves on observing standards... It depends a lot on the culture, like I know people who think that way but I also know some people who think safety regulations are silly and the way they do things is the best way and they'll never get hurt because they know what they're doing and people should take ~more personal responsibility~ and those annoying safety nazis should shut up because they just make the job harder since now I'm not allowed to operate on live wires anymore or w/e
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# ? Aug 14, 2018 19:25 |
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I used to get paid to do crazy dangerous things and it was fun! but now they only pay me if i act responsibly. i blame obummer and his socialisms
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# ? Aug 14, 2018 19:27 |
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It's the same kind of people who complain about there being "too many stupid lawsuits" and how they'd never sue if they got hurt because they're ~responsible~ and that lady who got third-degree burns from the mcdonalds coffee should have known that coffee is hot!!!
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ate all the Oreos posted:It depends a lot on the culture, like I know people who think that way but I also know some people who think safety regulations are silly and the way they do things is the best way and they'll never get hurt because they know what they're doing and people should take ~more personal responsibility~ and those annoying safety nazis should shut up because they just make the job harder since now I'm not allowed to operate on live wires anymore or w/e I heard from a friend at a company I recently applied to that I was turned down from the job because the hiring manager wasn't all too stoked on me going off about how safety is important for productivity and financial security long term. 3 days after my buddy told me my app was binned after the interview, someone did some dumb OSHA thing that caused a conveyor belt to catch fire. The machinery on the factory floor had to be replaced and the entire place was shut down for a couple days while that was happening and some hazmat crew was in trying to fix up all the minor fire damage. Avalanche has issued a correction as of 19:33 on Aug 14, 2018 |
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Avalanche posted:I heard from a friend at a company I recently applied to that I was turned down from the job because the hiring manager wasn't all too stoked on me going off about how safety is important for productivity and financial security long term. So how's your friend enjoying working for Tesla?
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ate all the Oreos posted:It depends a lot on the culture, like I know people who think that way but I also know some people who think safety regulations are silly and the way they do things is the best way and they'll never get hurt because they know what they're doing and people should take ~more personal responsibility~ and those annoying safety nazis should shut up because they just make the job harder since now I'm not allowed to operate on live wires anymore or w/e Maybe the deciding factor is union vs non-union, I think the union guys are the ones who go in for safety.
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Renegret posted:this thread makes me sad Haha nice emotions loser
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# ? Aug 14, 2018 19:44 |
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capitalism broke my dumbass brain and I spend two hundred bucks a month fixing it
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Former DILF posted:Haha nice emotions loser quit virtue signaling. Emotions are a Chinese hoax
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COMRADES posted:If workers owned the enterprise they would reach the same conclusion because money would be coming out of their pockets. Nice random dig against workers though. Well I'm one of those workers so I think I'm allowed to dig against them? Yeah, dangerous things were fun to do. Did you not have a childhood? And it yes it's good we can't do that even though I miss doing some of that dumb poo poo. Eg: You get older and stop getting drinking so much because it's obviously dumb, but you still had fun getting drunk. My real issue is every training module has 'don't do this you loving idiot', followed by 'because an incident will slow production, cost us money.... also its dangerous'. Safety is secondary to profit, and improvements are transparently made solely because of a profit incentive. They're very unwilling to make accommodations to alieviate the burden of improving safety if it's there's an iota of effort on their end. Eg: I've had times where we were on the verge of heatstroke but still had to wear full thickness PPE, sleeves down and flull length snake gaiters because someone saw a snake once. Never mind that after 10+ years I've never known anyone to get bitten, and the consequences of a bite are at worst a day in hospital if you have the right training but I do know people who've collapsed from dehydration and the heat.
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ate all the Oreos posted:It's the same kind of people who complain about there being "too many stupid lawsuits" and how they'd never sue if they got hurt because they're ~responsible~ and that lady who got third-degree burns from the mcdonalds coffee should have known that coffee is hot!!! Who cares about those people? Leave them in the past. Kill them if you have to.
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# ? Aug 14, 2018 20:07 |
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Post images you fuckin parasites
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Kazak posted:Post images you fuckin parasites
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# ? Aug 14, 2018 20:18 |
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Workplace safety is so important because management, too, plays an important role
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Whenever I worked retail I always refused to do anything if it wasn't safe or there was a possibility that I'd get hurt How stupid do you have to be to actually want to do dangerous work instead of not doing it and getting paid exactly the same? It was just a bonus that it pissed off management because they couldn't fire me for refusing to do unsafe work.
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Outrail posted:Eg: I've had times where we were on the verge of heatstroke but still had to wear full thickness PPE, sleeves down and flull length snake gaiters because someone saw a snake once. Never mind that after 10+ years I've never known anyone to get bitten, and the consequences of a bite are at worst a day in hospital if you have the right training but I do know people who've collapsed from dehydration and the heat. Maybe you should try to have your workplace rules made more safe instead of talking about how much you's prefer to be able to work dangerously (even though your example is literally a case of your workplace forcing you to work dangerously)? Also lol that you are angry that safety rules are 'transparently about profit' literally everything your company does is transparently about profit, the only choice is between them being incentivised to push you to work dangerously or them being incentivised to push you to work safely.
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