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Something Offal posted:Posted a question the second half of my post, sorry for the ninja edit. Could you answer? Curious as to what job types are readily available beyond 'technical writer' which is a little niche and I don't think pays stem-level wages. Though the average salary for that title is $70k which isn't bad. Tech Writer, production support (If you have hard technical skills too), Product Management, Technical Project Management, Scrum Master, User-Experience (with some design and some technical skills). Then there's the management chain on all these orgs, where humanities-type people frequently more prepared to do. I work and have worked with people in these roles who had backgrounds in English, History, Philosophy who all did quite well, some who were at the executive level in software companies. Almost any job you have requires skills beyond "Has a Degree", so you'd need to build some hard skills, but you don't require a 4 year STEM degree to do that stuff I posted (also see my other post above this one).
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The numbers bear out that humanities grads find employment but at a lower rate than other degrees, and their salaries are also lower. My anecdote is that during the years immediately following the GFC, a BA didn't mean poo poo. I'm glad that hasn't been universal.
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Aug 14, 2018 19:58
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Brutal, Jesus. My sister in law recently finished her 7 year art history PhD program and hopefully isn't facing such awful prospects. Otherwise, yeesh.
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Aug 14, 2018 20:10
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Does a financial investigator qualify as STEM, then?
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Aug 14, 2018 20:14
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CannonFodder posted:If she has a thirst for knowledge and studied sculpture at St Martin's college and her dad is loaded then I'll have a rum and coca cola. She lives in Baltimore and financially supports her deadbeat parents! Rad. (her husband's title is "Project Manager and Section Supervisor for the Applied Neuroscience area of the Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory’s Research and Exploratory Development Department" so at least it sounds like he's got a high paying job... Ph.D in Biomedical Engineering)
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Aug 14, 2018 20:14
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The thread often mentions the financial scammers who surround military bases, especially for terrible car loans. In response to these predatory businesses, the US government is taking action to help protect the shady auto dealers.quote:The Trump administration is taking aim at a law designed to protect military service members from getting cheated by shady lending practices. quote:The product Peterson is referring to is called gap insurance. Here's how it works: Cars lose some of their value the moment they are driven off the lot. Dealers often tell customers that if their car gets wrecked in a crash they could be financially harmed because regular insurance may not pay out the entire amount owed on the loan. Peterson says some car dealers push this insurance product really hard. "They convince people they've got to have this gap insurance," he says. quote:Meanwhile, critics say that another change in the works would more broadly weaken the enforcement of the Military Lending Act. It involves Mick Mulvaney, the Trump administration's acting director of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. https://www.npr.org/2018/08/13/637992389/white-house-takes-aim-at-financial-protections-for-military
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Aug 14, 2018 20:16
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It'd be nice if those protections were rolled out to, you know, everybody.
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Aug 14, 2018 20:20
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Gap insurance is something a lot of auto insurers offer, even, and I'd wager most of the people who fall victim to the dealer scam already have it from GEICO or whoever.
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Aug 14, 2018 20:23
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The problem with choosing your major is that you need to choose a major that's going to be profitable ten years from now, which may or may not be the same as majors that are profitable now. I don't know if we're looking at a STEM glut, but there's no real way to know right now. Just ask most of my classmates who went to law school. When people were saying "just get any college degree, and you'll make a bunch more money," that was largely actually true; it just wasn't by the time a lot of those people got out of school (or shortly thereafter).
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Aug 14, 2018 20:27
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I don't know any underemployed GOOD lawyers... As always, the key to success is to not suck
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:I don't know any underemployed GOOD lawyers... Can't help but agree given that the inverse of this principle is borne out by your posts itt.
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Aug 14, 2018 20:35
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e: nvm, dumber than usual joke.
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Aug 14, 2018 20:38
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Vox Nihili posted:Can't help but agree given that the inverse of this principle is borne out by your posts itt. I'm assuming from this wordy mess that you're saying I suck. Not very Mr Rogers-esque of you
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Aug 14, 2018 20:41
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Lockback posted:Lots of people just want to say "I'm smart, I can learn fast", but hiring managers like me don't really want to just take your word for it. Spend some time and actually learn something and have something to show for it (and know it enough to be able to answer questions/defend it) and we'll overlook the "wrong" degree and see that breadth of soft skills as a big plus.
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Thanatosian posted:I don't know if we're looking at a STEM glut, but there's no real way to know right now. We seem to be driving ourselves into one if the multiple 10-20 week $10k coding trade schools (“boot camps”) that have partnered with loan companies (similar to how Uber partners with subprime auto lenders) is anything to judge by.
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Aug 14, 2018 20:49
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:I'm assuming from this wordy mess that you're saying I suck. You've cracked it
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Aug 14, 2018 20:57
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Lol, cool, I have a nemesis. I don't believe I've seen you post in BFC before but I'm excited to watch our rivalry blossom.
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Aug 14, 2018 21:03
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MoviePass's continued existence counts as BWM, and their latest "stay alive" trick seems downright scammy. https://www.engadget.com/2018/08/14/moviepass-uncancels-accounts-so-shady/ They're retroactively un-cancelling people's memberships.
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Aug 14, 2018 21:06
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Lockback posted:It'd be nice if those protections were rolled out to, you know, everybody. Then they could roll them back too like they are proposing for the Military ones.
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Aug 14, 2018 21:11
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:MoviePass's continued existence counts as BWM, and their latest "stay alive" trick seems downright scammy. That's amazing. The death throes of lovely companies are always fun.
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Aug 14, 2018 21:24
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:MoviePass's continued existence counts as BWM, and their latest "stay alive" trick seems downright scammy. The company's float is now around $300k and dropping. Anyone smell a goon project?
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Aug 14, 2018 21:33
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Imagine four tubs of popcorn at the edge of a cliff
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Aug 14, 2018 21:35
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Vox Nihili posted:The company's float is now around $300k and dropping. Anyone smell a goon project? What, so we can financially support ANOTHER ill-conceived relic of a dying era of media and entertainment?
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Aug 14, 2018 22:43
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hailthefish posted:What, so we can financially support ANOTHER ill-conceived relic of a dying era of media and entertainment? Buy a NordVPN account today!
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Aug 14, 2018 22:44
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Colin Mockery posted:We seem to be driving ourselves into one if the multiple 10-20 week $10k coding trade schools (“boot camps”) that have partnered with loan companies (similar to how Uber partners with subprime auto lenders) is anything to judge by. For what it's worth, I'm under the impression that most code "bootcamps" are valued far below an actual CS degree. The best ones tend to be selective and often target people already in the software development industry. Most aren't much better than self-educating. Many are downright scams promising an easy path to cushy jobs with 6 figure incomes but failing to deliver. Until there is a better system of regulation/accreditation I don't think bootcamps alone will change the job prospects of CS grads. On the other hand, I have a feeling we will eventually see a glut of CS degree graduates as we push kids more and more towards it. That likely goes for other STEM degrees as well. Most of the last generation told their children college degrees were the ticket to a good life. I think many of this generation will tell their children STEM degrees are the ticket.
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The general perception of coding bootcamps has totally cratered within the tech community. 5 years ago when they were more selective and rigorous they might have been viewed more favorably, but that whole industry has raced to the bottom so quickly they make for-profit colleges look reputable. Most of them are borderline scams at this point and will do more harm to your resume than good. The couple people I know who did them a few years back have wiped them off their resume entirely now.
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Barry posted:That's amazing. The death throes of lovely companies are always fun. It didn't help that Alamo Drafthouse recently started notifying its customers of a moviepass-like plan in the works. At least, I got a wait list invite in the Alamo app last time I checked it. Haven't gotten anything since, including prices, and I'm pretty sure it's gonna be BWM levels of expensive since it's supposed to allow something like a movie a day.
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FAUXTON posted:It didn't help that Alamo Drafthouse recently started notifying its customers of a moviepass-like plan in the works.
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Aug 15, 2018 00:46
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I bet they're planning on a gym-like structure. Offer more movies than 95% of people will go see so that people are paying more than if they just paid piecemeal.
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22 Eargesplitten posted:I bet they're planning on a gym-like structure. Offer more movies than 95% of people will go see so that people are paying more than if they just paid piecemeal. Yeah, they're not idiots, and most of the cost for movie outings for me and Dr. FAUXTON is in the food and drink.
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A coworker told me about how his underemployed brother finally got a job in his field two years after finishing his masters. Before moving to start working at the new job, for some reason he took advice from his BWM and bought a new car and signed a lease (both of which required multiple family co-signers) for a very large apartment in the city he's moving to without calculating what his actual take home would be every paycheck. Turns out rent plus car payment equals around $2000 a month and his take home is $800 month, so he's automatically $1k+ in the hole every month not taking into account student loan payments, gas, insurance, etc.
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William Munny posted:A coworker told me about how his underemployed brother finally got a job in his field two years after finishing his masters. Before moving to start working at the new job, for some reason he took advice from his BWM and bought a new car and signed a lease (both of which required multiple family co-signers) for a very large apartment in the city he's moving to without calculating what his actual take home would be every paycheck. Turns out rent plus car payment equals around $2000 a month and his take home is $800 month, so he's automatically $1k+ in the hole every month not taking into account student loan payments, gas, insurance, etc. drat that sucks, how long until he's above water on the car? I bet it's one that never goes into the black, that's the catch isn't it.
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Aug 15, 2018 02:33
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Roommates and Uber. He’s going to need lots of roommates and lots of Uber.
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Aug 15, 2018 03:01
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FAUXTON posted:drat that sucks, how long until he's above water on the car? Yep, brand new crossover of some sort and I think the loan is no money down and 84 months.
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Aug 15, 2018 03:07
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William Munny posted:84 months. I don't......I can't.....what the gently caress. I mean I know this is a thing now, but..............
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Aug 15, 2018 03:14
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At this rate of inflation, someday I'm going to get a 420 month car loan!
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William Munny posted:Yep, brand new crossover of some sort and I think the loan is no money down and 84 months. Oh my god.
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Hoodwinker posted:At this rate of inflation, someday I'm going to get a 420 month car loan! If you wanted I bet you could find a place now where you could get a 69 month loan for $420 a month. Live your dreams today!
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Aug 15, 2018 03:40
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Hoodwinker posted:At this rate of inflation, someday I'm going to get a 420 month car loan! 30-year loans are considered part of the American birthright when it comes to houses, why not cars?
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22 Eargesplitten posted:If you wanted I bet you could find a place now where you could get a 69 month loan for $420 a month. Live your dreams today!
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