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SeanBeansShako posted:Is that still a thing? i dunno if it still is since phantom limb and radical left are on the new guild council, and they're both in the season 7 trailer at the guild-OSI summit, but they do have a sweet meteor hideout so probably? impossible industries is still around and this were the front for phantom limb's thing. iirc the last on screen appearance of dr impossible was at jj's funeral, sitting next to sally
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luxury handset posted:he's a member of the revenge society! Yeah I mean, I know that, but most of them "died" offscreen on gargantua-2, no? I think I remember now - Sally pushes him to leave gargantua-2 because he doesn't want her son's father to die.
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:Yeah I mean, I know that, but most of them "died" offscreen on gargantua-2, no? Only member who died for sure was Zero*, the others just got knocked out, also only part of Gargantua 2 got destroyed *and even then I still wouldn't be surprised if he came back again
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luxury handset posted:but they do have a sweet meteor hideout so probably? The Meteor Hideout is the new Council of 13 headquarters
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Aug 14, 2018 23:41
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:Yeah I mean, I know that, but most of them "died" offscreen on gargantua-2, no? nobody really dies on this show unless the plot directly says "yeah, this dude is dead" zero was a member of the revenge society and he died offscreen twice before we see explicitly see brock snap his neck
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Aug 14, 2018 23:47
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Didn't Fat Chance black hole himself too? I can't remember been so long since I saw that special.
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Aug 14, 2018 23:48
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Fat Chance supposedly can't black hole himself, but the art book mentions that yeah, he sent all the others to safety, so Zero is the only one confirmed dead. They wanted to have, but couldn't fit in, a scene where Fat Chance is trying to portal himself just before the explosion, and leave it ambiguous if it worked (note that originally he thought he couldn't portal on command either).
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Aug 14, 2018 23:49
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Aug 14, 2018 23:50
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Look at these fancy book owning gents.
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Aug 14, 2018 23:51
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I'm nthing the fact that the book rules. I was making do with the pdf and then finally ordered it. Even knowing that it was a beast from this thread I laughed when I opened it. It's a monster. I love it.
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Aug 15, 2018 00:08
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It's almost too big to read comfortably. I have to sit at my kitchen table like an 8th grader reading my social studies book
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Aug 15, 2018 00:20
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So its like the size of an RPG rulebook? My LCS can get it so I'm going to get them order it in for me soonish. I wonder where the Morpho Cave went.
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Aug 15, 2018 01:17
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twistedmentat posted:I wonder where the Morpho Cave went. Wouldn't be a very good secret lair if it didn't have more than one entrance and a way to hide the primary one. Whoever showed up in the car I think hid it with some knowledge that Monarch and 21 don't have to help him avoid being totally screwed for doing what he did.
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Aug 15, 2018 01:32
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I sprung for the art book just now this minute
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Aug 15, 2018 01:44
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The only way to permanently die on this show is for someone to eat your butt
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The Notorious ZSB posted:Wouldn't be a very good secret lair if it didn't have more than one entrance and a way to hide the primary one. Whoever showed up in the car I think hid it with some knowledge that Monarch and 21 don't have to help him avoid being totally screwed for doing what he did. I had completely forgot that another Blue Morpho showed up right before the Venture building started to get funky. Yea that one probably hit the hide switch or something. You know, I wonder if that is Vendata, recovered enough of its memories or something? It could have been in Dummy Corp too.
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Billzasilver posted:The only way to permanently die on this show is for someone to eat your butt A good if slightly weird future thread name.
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Aug 15, 2018 02:42
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I will never forget the first time I heard someone being called a butteater by someone who wasn't a kid on a playground.
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twistedmentat posted:
The last time we saw Vendata was him getting his rear end kicked by Brock so hard it jolted an old memory. Would explain him being missing for what 2 seasons now? Most of the Guild is dead so that was a blessing in disguise he wasn’t whacked like the rest of the others. Also seeing as he’s basically Robocop probably seeing his old beat up house probably also helped. Shindragon fucked around with this message at 03:05 on Aug 15, 2018 |
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twistedmentat posted:So its like the size of an RPG rulebook? Book big. 
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Rexxed posted:Book big. Yea totally about the size of a warhammer main rulebook. Shindragon posted:The last time we saw Vendata was him getting his rear end kicked by Brock so hard it jolted an old memory. Would explain him being missing for what 2 seasons now? Most of the Guild is dead so that was a blessing in disguise he wasn’t whacked like the rest of the others. Also seeing as he’s basically Robocop probably seeing his old beat up house probably also helped. That's exactly what I was thinking of. It could also be connected to Jonas being inside PROBLEM.
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Question Friend posted:There's nothing you're not supposed to remember exists Except Wide Wale in Dunwich, we’re supposed to forget that exists.
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Aug 15, 2018 03:39
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luxury handset posted:he's got it figured out. dude just likes killing every once in a while is all He's a complete psycho, but keeps it to one day a year. He rules, I love that his advice to the Monarch was just telling him to straight up murder Rusty instead of anything actually helpful.
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Aug 15, 2018 05:13
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Improbable Lobster posted:I love that his advice to the Monarch was just telling him to straight up murder Rusty instead of anything actually helpful. There's basically two ways to end the compulsion. Deal with it in some healthy way, or just kill Rusty Venture so that there can be no more target for the compulsion. One of those solutions is really difficult and may never really work, while the other is completely straightforward.
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drrockso20 posted:Also apparently the Shark that Wide Wale stole in the flashback is a real piece of art called The Physical Impossibility of Death in the Mind of Someone Living by Damien Hirst(who the show has referred to before), which leads to two different likely reasons why Dugong was giving him crap about it; 1) said piece is an already dead shark preserved in formaldehyde(thus making useless for his work), and 2) there are two versions of that piece, in the first version the Shark used was preserved poorly, leading it to gradually deteriorate, which lead to two attempts to fix it, the first involved removing the shark's skin and putting it over a mold, and then later in 2006 they replaced the Shark with a new one It's also a rip on Hirst for being a loving hack.
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Robot Hobo posted:Wouldn't that be helpful though? Monarch's biggest weakness as both a villain and a husband, the only two components of his entire life, is his constant compulsion to ruin Rusty Venture for... reasons still unknown. Possibly even unknown to Monarch himself at this point. If he wants to save his marriage and his career (and possibly his life), the only real answer is to eliminate that compulsion. I don't think the Monarch would simply fall back to a mentally healthy place if Rusty died.
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Wanting to arch Rusty isn't the Monarch's weakness; it's his passion. It's the only thing he really enjoys. If he wasn't arching Rusty, he probably wouldn't want to be a villain at all.
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I mean he wanted to build an empire to house the machine to kick his rear end. We have seen what happens when Monarch attempt to arch someone who isn’t Rusty. (Granted JJ was more so he could arch Rusty again)
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It's also worth noting that his never-ending supply of hatred is also what made his wife fall in love with him. He has the well of infinite malice that gives them the passion to work as a duo, and she has, uh, everything else except that. Without him, she's super competent but doesn't have the drive to succeed as a solo villain. I don't think their relationship could survive without Rusty. (And really, Sheila probably should have seen this coming, because "when not arching Rusty the Monarch immediately moves obsessively in the direction of arching Rusty and refuses to give his attention to anything else" is pretty much how he works and she knows that, although she didn't think he had it in him to off other villains.) EDIT: Actually, the Monarch seems to be unique among villains, now that I think about it. You have 1) guys like Phantom Limb, for whom villainy is the path to power and influence (world dominators) 2) guys like Wide Wale and Monstroso, who are basically just regular criminals who engage in a few tropes to get access to the privileges of costumed villainy 3) guys like Red Death or the Moppets, who are just antisocial maniacs for whom villainy serves as an outlet and regulator. 4) guys like Sergeant Hatred, for whom it's just the job they happen to be good at The Monarch is in his own category because he's really only in the business to mess with one guy, and would probably have no interest in continuing as an official bad guy if that one guy were permanently gone. Rand Brittain fucked around with this message at 15:42 on Aug 15, 2018 |
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Though I bet Hank and Dean would probably go from considering the Monarch an annoying acquaintance to a lifelong grudge if he actually killed their dad. Hell, I bet it'd be their catalyst. Hank is definitely just waiting for the right motivation, and Dean hates the boy adventurer life but gets really loving mad given provocation.
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Rand Brittain posted:The Monarch is in his own category because he's really only in the business to mess with one guy, and would probably have no interest in continuing as an official bad guy if that one guy were permanently gone. St. Cloud is like this as well
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Aug 15, 2018 15:58
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The Monarch laughing at Hank calling Doc a honky is one of the better moments in the show. But really I think killing Rusty would be the thing that finally broke Gary’s loyalty.
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TK-42-1 posted:The Monarch laughing at Hank calling Doc a honky is one of the better moments in the show. But really I think killing Rusty would be the thing that finally broke Gary’s loyalty. Also, Brock would go all sickhouse on their asses.
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That’s the thing I really like about Brock. We saw how far he would go to protect them. He went on a naked rampage to show how serious he was.
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Aug 15, 2018 16:22
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I've got a gut-feeling that episode three this week is finally going to reveal the Monarch's motivation to arch Doc. That weird little dream he had in episode 2 seems like foreshadowing.
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Bobulus posted:I've got a gut-feeling that episode three this week is finally going to reveal the Monarch's motivation to arch Doc. That weird little dream he had in episode 2 seems like foreshadowing. I've got a gut feeling that the incredibly telegraphed "Vendata is the Monarch's dad and Rusty caused or is thought to have caused the plane crash that killed his parents [plastic cowboy in the wiring?]" theory will pan out but a bunch of people will complain about how ambiguous it is because nobody just comes out and says those words in that order.
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Aug 15, 2018 16:27
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While that would be hilarious as hell watch it be because Rusty was a goddamn Jerk to him and forgot about it. I mean he forgot about Hector and thought he was a hobo trying to rob him. As for the airplane crash could have been a malfunction. Not everything Rusty touches crashes. Almost. 
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Aug 15, 2018 16:33
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Bobulus posted:I've got a gut-feeling that episode three this week is finally going to reveal the Monarch's motivation to arch Doc. That weird little dream he had in episode 2 seems like foreshadowing. What was the dream he had?
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Aug 15, 2018 16:35
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Cojawfee posted:What was the dream he had? Drowning in the orange color palette world.
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Pick posted:Drowning in the orange color palette world. Also yells at Doc, "You were never there for me"
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