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This is why we can't have nice things https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RFERqaRVxg151VpwfFXZAIGGg_aGOjdG/view
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hoiyes posted:This is why we can't have nice things 
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Aug 16, 2018 12:36
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Seems easy enough. Add “that did not start in reserve” to the end of the card.
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Aug 16, 2018 13:10
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 For those not in the know https://m.imgur.com/gallery/V0gND
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Aug 16, 2018 14:00
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Exactly what I thought about.
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Aug 16, 2018 14:04
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Tacopocalypse posted:
That guy has been a "Hero of Gaming" for me since I first heard about him a couple of years ago. If I remember right he lost most of his games that day, but he screwed over the one person he wanted to.
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Aug 16, 2018 14:04
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He should be the picture on Wikipedia for the "poo poo eating grin" article.
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Aug 16, 2018 14:06
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Tacopocalypse posted:
This is kind of magical.
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Aug 16, 2018 14:36
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So was FFG expecting there to be just one Boba Fett crew card in existence?
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Aug 16, 2018 14:48
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Raged posted:If I remember right he lost most of his games that day, but he screwed over the one person he wanted to. It’s 40K, playing it is losing.
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Aug 16, 2018 14:49
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This is hilarious. It's also easily fixable by making Boba crew optional. Add a "may" in there.
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Aug 16, 2018 14:49
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FFG play testing is world class
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Aug 16, 2018 19:59
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Tacopocalypse posted:
Oh wow, that is the feel-good story of the year!
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Aug 16, 2018 20:07
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alg posted:FFG play testing is world class If this is the worst thing that got past them, then yeah, they are. There are millions of possible card interactions. If any of them involve positioning, then there are infinite places a ship could be, on top of that. Can you imagine testing every single card with every single other card with every single possible placement of every single possible object? It's impossible. Could this particular issue have been foreseen? Sure. Is it a big deal that it was not? No. This is a minor edge case, and the fix is literally as easy as errata'ing the word "may" onto the card, and it was discovered prior to full release of the game.
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Aug 16, 2018 20:26
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ConfusedUs posted:If this is the worst thing that got past them, then yeah, they are. On the flip side, if I had tested this card prior to release, this is the exact thing I would have tried to do. Like, the literal first thing, just to be a dick. edit: At the 2.0 preview event at Gen Con, they had everyone make a squad of threat 5 from the starter kit and one other ship, Y-Wing or TIE Advanced. 2 minutes after opening the stuff and looking at it, I realized a lot of combinations were literally impossible with the cards we had (pretty much every named TIE or TIE Advance pilot had Shield Upgrade on it, but we only had one Shield Upgrade, no no go on using 2 named pilots. Same thing with Proton Torpedoes on the Rebel side, stuff like that). The guy sitting across from me while we were making squads was new to the game; in fact, this was his first exposure to it. He was kind of like WTFuck. One of the designers (no idea which one, the one with the gross mutton chop sideburns), was walking by. I stopped him and pointed out to him the fact that we we could not build a lot of lists. I wasn't an rear end, just pointing it out. He just got silent, nodded him head, and said, "...i'm not sure..." 2 minutes later there was an announcement that you were allowed to use multiples of cards that were not provided to us, so long as you told your opponent beforehand. Me and several people noticed this oversight (that was easily fixed) within minutes of opening the boxes. FFG has had a lot of time to prepare. This isn't to stay I hate X-Wing or 'gently caress 2.0' or anything. Just that FFG will always do what FFG does. enigmahfc fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Aug 16, 2018 |
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Aug 16, 2018 21:08
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ConfusedUs posted:Could this particular issue have been foreseen? Sure. Is it a big deal that it was not? No. This is a minor edge case, and the fix is literally as easy as errata'ing the word "may" onto the card, and it was discovered prior to full release of the game. Because if there’s one thing FFG excels at it’s prompt and easy FAQ and erratas. Plenty of bad interactions have been discovered before cards are released and we still get stuck waiting months for a goofy fix that usually causes as many problems as it solves! Not that anyone should be surprised at this sort of thing by now.
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Aug 16, 2018 21:10
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If you want oversight, you should also check out the token spread:
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Aug 16, 2018 22:41
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Rebels are stoners. They have no stress, but also no focus
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Aug 16, 2018 22:48
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ConfusedUs posted:If this is the worst thing that got past them, then yeah, they are. Counterpoint: all of 1.0's history since the TIE Phantom. Edit: actually just use their previous commentary on 2.0 and make Boba 30 points so they don't have to errata anything. alg fucked around with this message at 23:27 on Aug 16, 2018 |
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Aug 16, 2018 23:14
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Tacopocalypse posted:If you want oversight, you should also check out the token spread: I don't understand what this spreadsheet is actually saying
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Aug 16, 2018 23:32
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Recoome posted:I don't understand what this spreadsheet is actually saying How many of each token comes in each conversion kit and the core set.
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Aug 16, 2018 23:37
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oh right well you know, each token is a ~hand crafted~ jewel of wonder
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Aug 16, 2018 23:45
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bunnyofdoom posted:How many of each token comes in each conversion kit and the core set. And what conclusion are you supposed to draw from it?
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Aug 17, 2018 01:52
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Well i mean for starters only the starter set comes with shields and only 4 of them so like....you cannot even run big ships using the 2.0 tokens.
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Aug 17, 2018 01:55
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And, like, anyone who buys a conversion kit is gonna have an established 1.0 set with more tokens than they could ever possibly use.
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Aug 17, 2018 01:58
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Anyone out there effected by the lack of tokens included in any conversion sets, I will literally send you a metric gently caress tonnage of them.
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Aug 17, 2018 02:02
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Xwing has really jumped the shark if players are complaining about a lack of focus and shield tokens
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Aug 17, 2018 02:07
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I gotta pair of one gallon bags full of unnecessary stuff. In fact when new players show up I usually bring one and say take anything you want.
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Aug 17, 2018 02:23
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bunnyofdoom posted:Well i mean for starters only the starter set comes with shields and only 4 of them so like....you cannot even run big ships using the 2.0 tokens. I'm starting to wonder if we're not going to get another Core set in the first part of 2.0. Like, "here's one for if you play Rebels and Empire, here's one for if you play Resistance and First Order." And Scum just gets hosed on Core Set representation. If only because I'm thinking they pretty much have to make an updated closey-openy Black One (it'd sell a bunch, people like Poe, it's in the current content being produced at the theater) and it's either throw him in a second Core or re-re-release a Falcon expansion and put him in it (again). So they're planning on spreading out a lot of the essential tokens and such into those Cores, if that makes sense, and you'd continue the theme of having unique paint jobs on X-Wings that come in the Core set. Although I think Poe is already revealed as being in the T-70 blister, and Luke is... I don't think Luke is actually in the T-65B blister? I could be wrong.
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Aug 17, 2018 02:24
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Sure, everyone who's converting is swimming in shield, focus, and evade tokens. The only problem I see players facing is having to proxy calculate tokens. There aren't even enough in the Scum kit to accommodate two IG-88s.
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Aug 17, 2018 02:25
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Scum is a dumb faction anyway
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Aug 17, 2018 02:25
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And everyone who's not is getting enough out of the core set plus the expansions they buy to run their own ships.  How on Earth do you need more than three Calculate tokens to run two IG-88s?
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Aug 17, 2018 02:27
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Scum have all the best generic ships, although their aces seem a little overcosted. Edit: Mining Guild tie fighter especially means I might just take a hot wire to a bunch of my ties.
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Aug 17, 2018 02:28
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IG-88s ship ability is gaining a second calculate token when you perform a calculate action.
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Aug 17, 2018 02:30
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Closey openey Black One with the booster mod from TLJ would be really swell
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Aug 17, 2018 02:30
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canyoneer posted:Closey openey Black One with the booster mod from TLJ would be really swell The new Black One titles gives a one off SLAM
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Aug 17, 2018 02:32
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canyoneer posted:Closey openey Black One with the booster mod from TLJ would be really swell Some Numbers posted:The new Black One titles gives a one off SLAM This is my point. The new Black One title essentially just is TLJ Poe, and we got an (awesome) Red Five paintjob. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a second Core, or like a different version of the Core, that had some TIE/sfs and a Black One. Because as of now, with how OP is set up, unless there's poo poo upcoming for FO re-releases, upon release they will only have one ship eligible to be used in the "standard" 200 v 200 games (the /fo). The Resistance will have T-70s and RZ-2s.
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Aug 17, 2018 03:01
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guts and bolts posted:This is my point. The new Black One title essentially just is TLJ Poe, and we got an (awesome) Red Five paintjob. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a second Core, or like a different version of the Core, that had some TIE/sfs and a Black One. Because as of now, with how OP is set up, unless there's poo poo upcoming for FO re-releases, upon release they will only have one ship eligible to be used in the "standard" 200 v 200 games (the /fo). The Resistance will have T-70s and RZ-2s. Huh? First Order, when the conversion kit releases will have TIE/fo, TIE Silencer, TIE/sf, and Upsilon Shuttle. Resistance has the bomber, YT-1300, T-70, and RZ-2. Neither faction can be used until the conversion kit drops, and when they do they'll each have 4 ships.
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Aug 17, 2018 03:13
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canyoneer posted:Huh? First Order, when the conversion kit releases will have TIE/fo, TIE Silencer, TIE/sf, and Upsilon Shuttle. I thought 2.0 official formats were excluding stuff that wasn't in a Core or blisters; like the Rebel faction to start off will be X-Wings, Y-Wings, and U-Wings, that's it. Unless I'm understanding it wrong.
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Pretty sure anything in the app is fair game.
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