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Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

trent reznor is still going and he tells the chuds to go jump in a river all the time

It was pretty cool when he gave us The Slip for free, too.

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

i think godsmack is the author of the dumbest rock song i've ever heard. "cryin' like a bitch." it came on the radio when i was driving and i listened to the whole thing because i was so dumbfounded.

I've never been able to take godsmack even slightly seriously, both because they're such tryhards and also because Sully's such a wee little fella.

Captain_Maclaine has issued a correction as of 14:15 on Aug 17, 2018

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Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008

Hey guys I've been a lifelong democrat but was in a coma exactly coterminous with Barack Obama's presidency and, boy, I cannot believe how nasty some people are being to the President these days!

Mariana Horchata
Jun 30, 2008

College Slice
a.d.i.d.a.s.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

Captain_Maclaine posted:

I've never been able to take godsmack even slightly seriously, both because they're such tryhards and also because Sully's such a wee little fella.

Godsmack is great because I never thought there'd be a radio hit that was dumber or lazier than "Cumbersome" but then "Voodoo" came along and proved me wrong.

shiksa
Nov 9, 2009

i went to one of these wrestling shows and it was... honestly? frickin boring. i wanna see ricky! i want to see his gold chains and respect for the ftw lifestyle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLQ2TIul8pI

this is the worst rock song btw im not sure if soul asylum is post-grunge or "regular grunge" whatever that actually means but i had to stop my car the first time i heard this song because i was laughing so hard i thought it was a parody

Bushiz
Sep 21, 2004

The #1 Threat to Ba Sing Se

Grimey Drawer
There's a lot of good points being made esp. wrt buckcherry about what the worst music is but it's actually the nightmarish adult contemporary stylings of Train, who is not only hellishly bad, but also still reliably charting somehow, with a song about harassing the DJ at a club, bragging about how much money you have, and that your go to gently caress Song is Hoagy Carmichael's Heart & Soul.

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN posted:

The pet shop boys were cool then and they're cool now


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NZ04BG7TfA

PET SHOP BOYS are canonically cool as hell

ChristsDickWorship
Dec 7, 2004

Annihilate your demons



shiksa posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLQ2TIul8pI

this is the worst rock song btw im not sure if soul asylum is post-grunge or "regular grunge" whatever that actually means but i had to stop my car the first time i heard this song because i was laughing so hard i thought it was a parody

Would you believe me if I told you that band started making music together in 1983?

shiksa
Nov 9, 2009

i went to one of these wrestling shows and it was... honestly? frickin boring. i wanna see ricky! i want to see his gold chains and respect for the ftw lifestyle

ChristsDickWorship posted:

Would you believe me if I told you that band started making music together in 1983?

thats loving hilarious

e: omg they were husker du and replacements contemporaries? ugh kill me now that makes me mad lol

shiksa has issued a correction as of 16:36 on Aug 17, 2018

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN
Jun 26, 2009



people give soul asylum poo poo! but ! runaway train saved lives !!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uYv5Y8HZnk

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN has issued a correction as of 16:45 on Aug 17, 2018

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Soulfly and later Sepultura is too depressing for me to think about

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN
Jun 26, 2009



yeah but you know who never sold out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2zQKqgNAeE

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

A Gnarlacious Bro posted:

Soulfly and later Sepultura is too depressing for me to think about

yeah rip dubsack danny

Ruzihm
Aug 11, 2010

Group up and push mid, proletariat!



good

mojo1701a
Oct 9, 2008

Oh, yeah. Loud and clear. Emphasis on LOUD!
~ David Lee Roth

TrilliontonNixon posted:

Imagine walking around with this tattoo in 30 years after Shapiro has long since died alone in a gutter and everyone else has completely forgotten about him.

Hopefully in 30 years he'll have enough money to have the text changed to "A boy's is his mother
best friend."

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004




the Chad Pet Shop Boys Army versus the virgin Proud Boys cereal beatdown

ChristsDickWorship
Dec 7, 2004

Annihilate your demons



I don't usually admit this, but when I was 12 years old I had a Soul Asylum t-shirt. I was confused at the store and I thought Soul Asylum was Collective Soul, which isn't much less embarrassing.

But it got me sent home from school because it was designed like a Jagermeister label. I had no idea, and my parents are teetotalers so they didn't either. I made it through half my classes then the lunch lady called me out and sent me to the principal.

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

Hey guys could somebody go into the happy thread and defend lemmy from being charged with being a Nazi

I remember the subject came up in here a long time ago and somebody did a *very* through refutation

aware of dog
Nov 14, 2016
https://twitter.com/shaun_jen/status/1030488790211670019?s=21

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!

Yoda nooooooo

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004




of COURSE dipshit nazis' favorite part of that book is the part that is insanely terribly bad and was basically just Heinlein inserting himself in there to ramble about his insane and contradictory perfect society in a safe space because everybody kept immediately pulling it apart in real life

Solitair
Feb 18, 2014

TODAY'S GONNA BE A GOOD MOTHERFUCKIN' DAY!!!

Bushiz posted:

There's a lot of good points being made esp. wrt buckcherry about what the worst music is but it's actually the nightmarish adult contemporary stylings of Train, who is not only hellishly bad, but also still reliably charting somehow, with a song about harassing the DJ at a club, bragging about how much money you have, and that your go to gently caress Song is Hoagy Carmichael's Heart & Soul.

Oh god, I thought they went away after "Drive-By." Are their lyrics still batshit stupid?

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually

A Gnarlacious Bro posted:

PET SHOP BOYS are canonically cool as hell
:agreed:

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
No collaboration

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OB2y40HID44

Bushiz
Sep 21, 2004

The #1 Threat to Ba Sing Se

Grimey Drawer
Heinlein had no coherent ideology other than Want To Always Be Naked and everything he did is in service of that. Sst is about exploring the possibilities of permanudity in a fascist culture, sisl is about exploring the possibilities of permanudity in a socialistic culture. The rest of the books are about being horny

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Bushiz posted:

Heinlein had no coherent ideology other than Want To Always Be Naked and everything he did is in service of that. Sst is about exploring the possibilities of permanudity in a fascist culture, sisl is about exploring the possibilities of permanudity in a socialistic culture. The rest of the books are about being horny

Uh Heinlein was a member of the Birch Society so I'm pretty sure he was loving right-wing psycho

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
"The real problem of the Far East is not that so many of them are communists, but simply that there are so many of them," makes it seem like he's a freaking nazi

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Bushiz posted:

Heinlein had no coherent ideology other than Want To Always Be Naked and everything he did is in service of that. Sst is about exploring the possibilities of permanudity in a fascist culture, sisl is about exploring the possibilities of permanudity in a socialistic culture. The rest of the books are about being horny

don't forget his numerous explanations as to why it's normal and good, liberating even, for girls to enter into sex work as young as 11 or 12

Bushiz
Sep 21, 2004

The #1 Threat to Ba Sing Se

Grimey Drawer
Or that his biggest Mary Sue character hosed his mom.

Heinlein's only loyalties were to horniness

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
seems more like he was a sex freak pedophile nazi

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



A Gnarlacious Bro posted:

seems more like he was a sex freak pedophile nazi

also his books were bad even divorced from ideology

something about being a fringe right wing lunatic means you cannot tell a story that doesn't involve a hundred different deus ex machina devices and people

Orson Scott Card is the absolute worst in regards to this thing, where literally every single character in every single book is smarter and more capable than all of the rest of humanity combined

I think it all goes back to Ayn Rand and their foolish belief that she was a good writer and not someone who, for example, was given carte blanche to create the ideal and perfect world where all of her beliefs are true and respected and still couldn't make it seem like anything but a miserable shithole country

Pomp
Apr 3, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
Heinlein loved authoritarianism no matter what side of the spectrum he wrote about loving on

Yeowch!!! My Balls!!!
May 31, 2006
Stranger in a Strange Land is peak heinlein

it had two authors. young robert heinlein, who had observed "god I hate how every sci-fi and fantasy name is just someone going to town on a typewriter, just call him John and be done with it" and decided to write a story about a Martian named Smith. then, having established a Martian named Smith, he realized "wait I have no idea where to go with the story from here" and ignored it for a few decades

then Old Robert Heinlein picked it back up, and realized wait, I have so many things to say about Horny and Objectivism

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

A Gnarlacious Bro posted:

Uh Heinlein was a member of the Birch Society so I'm pretty sure he was loving right-wing psycho

Heinlein was a solipsist. He joined the John Birch society even though he knew they were fascists because they hated Ike and Heinlein thought that Ike was giving away the whole world to Khrushchev. Politically he was just a horny fucker and a ladder kicker.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy
Even when I was on my soft libertarinism kick at the end of highschool I was rather unimpressed by Heinlein. Found him way too preachy.

Grimoire
Jul 9, 2003

Epic High Five posted:

also his books were bad even divorced from ideology

something about being a fringe right wing lunatic means you cannot tell a story that doesn't involve a hundred different deus ex machina devices and people

Orson Scott Card is the absolute worst in regards to this thing, where literally every single character in every single book is smarter and more capable than all of the rest of humanity combined

I think it all goes back to Ayn Rand and their foolish belief that she was a good writer and not someone who, for example, was given carte blanche to create the ideal and perfect world where all of her beliefs are true and respected and still couldn't make it seem like anything but a miserable shithole country

Sword of Truth novels are another one, though as a kid I didn't get that something was off until I hit the point with the bdsm witches. Look if you screw up horny torture witches in your Ayn Rand fanfic, find a new career

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Grimoire posted:

Sword of Truth novels are another one, though as a kid I didn't get that something was off until I hit the point with the bdsm witches. Look if you screw up horny torture witches in your Ayn Rand fanfic, find a new career

Swrod of Truth is Wheel of Time with a writer who has much more obvious sexual hangups, plus objectivism.

ChristsDickWorship
Dec 7, 2004

Annihilate your demons



Epic High Five posted:

Orson Scott Card is the absolute worst in regards to this thing, where literally every single character in every single book is smarter and more capable than all of the rest of humanity combined
Creating the Innocent Killer: Ender's Game, Intention, and Morality

http://www4.ncsu.edu/~tenshi/Killer_000.htm

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:
Never read the Sword of Truth books but I recall the writer loves having his protagonist inflict horrific, lovingly described, and righteous violence on people much like your standard rightwing adventure but with swords, including on protesters and children.

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Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011

Dr. Killjoy posted:

Never read the Sword of Truth books but I recall the writer loves having his protagonist inflict horrific, lovingly described, and righteous violence on people much like your standard rightwing adventure but with swords, including on protesters and children.

Is the sword of truth thread still around? cause those books are SO terrible

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