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How old is old enough to take a child to look at the civil engineering projects of the majestic American South West? I've never been to Vegas and the kid would get a kick out of the Hoover Dam I think?
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Aug 17, 2018 20:23
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i had my 10th birthday at Excalibur in LV
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Aug 17, 2018 20:24
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Schadenboner posted:How old is old enough to take a child to look at the civil engineering projects of the majestic American South West?
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Aug 17, 2018 20:25
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duz posted:that would make light pollution so much worse than it already is why not just ignite jupiter into a 2nd sun and do away with night entirely?
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Aug 17, 2018 20:51
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:btw there's a p hilarious new prop up on the ballot this year 
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Aug 17, 2018 20:53
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Schadenboner posted:How old is old enough to take a child to look at the civil engineering projects of the majestic American South West? I've never been to Vegas and the kid would get a kick out of the Hoover Dam I think? idk we went to visit that when i was like 5 because my aunt and uncle lived in vegas and i thought hoover dam ooked pretty cool like a movie and the tour had neat things i barely remember
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Aug 17, 2018 20:59
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Schadenboner posted:How old is old enough to take a child to look at the civil engineering projects of the majestic American South West? I've never been to Vegas and the kid would get a kick out of the Hoover Dam I think? ... depends on the kid? what part do you think they'll like? talking about how it got built? the huge reservoir and the huge drop off? going through the innards? fishmech posted:idk we went to visit that when i was like 5 because my aunt and uncle lived in vegas and i thought hoover dam ooked pretty cool like a movie and the tour had neat things i barely remember the old "hard hat tour" is gone, post-911. 5 year old you was lucky e: there is still _a_ tour and It Was Okay
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Aug 17, 2018 21:17
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Truga posted:lol i didn't know. all i know is cancer rates at background radiation levels don't really conform to the LNT, which i find surprising but not impossible? i didn't know this was controversial generally everyone seems to agree that LNT is inadequate, but disagree on everything else, like how much radiation is the "cutoff" point where LNT stops working, or the alternative and even less researched idea that low amounts of radiation are actually good for you by turning on DNA repair mechanisms more often. science itself hasn't really satisfactorily answered these questions so forums arguments about them are extra super duper derail-y 
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Aug 17, 2018 21:20
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i’ve heard that 12ish is the min age for the grand canyon because before that they don’t really have the breadth of experience to appreciate the scale and are p underwhelmed by it
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Aug 17, 2018 21:23
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Schadenboner posted:How old is old enough to take a child to look at the civil engineering projects of the majestic American South West? I've never been to Vegas and the kid would get a kick out of the Hoover Dam I think? old enough that you can explain the vibrations they feel and rumbling they hear is massive amounts of water travelling in that huge pipe above you
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Aug 17, 2018 21:23
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prisoner of waffles posted:the old "hard hat tour" is gone, post-911. 5 year old you was lucky you still get to go down into the generator hall, it's not bad, definitely would recommend and your kid would probably love it just for how darn immense the thing is. i'd think most kids love big whirring machines and surreally enormous structures they can lean over and spit off of
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Aug 17, 2018 21:24
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:i’ve heard that 12ish is the min age for the grand canyon because before that they don’t really have the breadth of experience to appreciate the scale and are p underwhelmed by it idk maybe i'm just a super duper turbodork but as far back as i can remember i absolutely loved when my family would go on vacation and tour huge things, i think it's the same part of your child brain that loves big construction vehicles and firetrucks and stuff like that
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Aug 17, 2018 21:26
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C.H.O.M.E. posted:reminder that back when i had an ambien prescription for working 2nd shift to make it so i could go home and immediately go to sleep after getting off work at 1 am and not sleep through the whole day the next day, i took it BEFORE the shower instead of after my shower when i was already in bed one time and i woke up banned for posting in the coupons forum asking for help making "strawberry casserole" and i woke up to find my ice cream maker broken, and a strawberry smoothie poured into a casserole dish sitting on the top rack of my oven, which i was apparently too out of it to turn on and burn down my house. ambien stories used to be funny and then an old friend of my father's / the father of some of my childhood friends took an ambien, got into bed, and then took a lethal overdose of the pain pills stored on his nightstand while his wife was dozed off in front of the TV downstairs I'm also fairly certain that an IRC friend who used to do some hilarious ambien chatting ended up killing himself a decade ago by inadvertently escalating to ambien motorcycling
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Aug 17, 2018 21:33
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what is the ostensible purpose of ambien or what is supposed to happen with responsible use because all I ever hear about it are these batshit/tragic stories
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Aug 17, 2018 21:35
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pseudorandom name posted:ambien stories used to be funny and then an old friend of my father's / the father of some of my childhood friends took an ambien, got into bed, and then took a lethal overdose of the pain pills stored on his nightstand while his wife was dozed off in front of the TV downstairs Yeah it's really not funny. Its a bad, dangerous, overprescribed drug that could easily be replaced by zopiclone or etizolam.
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Aug 17, 2018 21:37
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pseudorandom name posted:I'm also fairly certain that an IRC friend who used to do some hilarious ambien chatting ended up killing himself a decade ago by inadvertently escalating to ambien motorcycling nap panther
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Aug 17, 2018 21:38
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haveblue posted:what is the ostensible purpose of ambien or what is supposed to happen with responsible use because all I ever hear about it are these batshit/tragic stories its supposed to be a benzo that stops helping you go to sleep after a couple months instead of a couple weeks
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Aug 17, 2018 21:38
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haveblue posted:what is the ostensible purpose of ambien or what is supposed to happen with responsible use because all I ever hear about it are these batshit/tragic stories typical sedative / hypnotic sleeping pill. it does some hosed up poo poo to the GABA-A receptor that makes very bad things happen sometimes.
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Aug 17, 2018 21:38
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haveblue posted:what is the ostensible purpose of ambien or what is supposed to happen with responsible use because all I ever hear about it are these batshit/tragic stories i take it to go to sleep and it works fine most of the time, and when it doesn't work fine im just awake and a bit pissed off because i wanted to go to sleep
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Aug 17, 2018 21:39
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SENSUAL DAD KISS posted:Yeah it's really not funny. Its a bad, dangerous, overprescribed drug that could easily be replaced by zopiclone or etizolam. don't all the z drugs do that though?
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Aug 17, 2018 21:39
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fishmech posted:i take it to go to sleep and it works fine most of the time, and when it doesn't work fine im just awake and a bit pissed off because i wanted to go to sleep well at least you just post on the internet instead of driving around
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Aug 17, 2018 21:40
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hobbesmaster posted:well at least you just post on the internet instead of driving around imagine if it made you do both.
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Aug 17, 2018 21:42
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hobbesmaster posted:don't all the z drugs do that though? yeah they do, zopiclone has a lower rate of it at least I believe.
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Aug 17, 2018 21:43
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President Beep posted:nap panther
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Aug 17, 2018 21:47
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One time when I was having particularly hard month or two re: regular good sleep, and doctor told me "oh you can just take more Benadryl. You can actually take like a double dose and be fine".
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Aug 17, 2018 21:56
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the medics at work hand out gravol for sleep issues
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Aug 17, 2018 22:13
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haveblue posted:what is the ostensible purpose of ambien who knows with the american fda it was probably developed for x, but y was a neat side effect so we'll just go with that! like when chantix was being tested as an antidepressant and a bunch of folks killed themselves but the ones that survived didnt wanna smoke anymore
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Aug 17, 2018 22:18
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I used to take like 50mg of benadryl to help me sleep but apparently it might be, like, bad? It also sometimes made me super  in the mornings.So now I'm taking 10mg of melatonin and it's nice to dream again and I'm much less .Except that now I itch like loving crazy all night all throughout hay fever season which wasn't a problem when I was taking huge doses of rather potent antihistamines. 
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Aug 17, 2018 22:22
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i tried every loving sleep med under the sun before they put me on a low dose of this old-rear end depression med called doxepin. nothing else worked, but that did. no grogginess either. ask your doctor if doxepin can help.
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Aug 17, 2018 22:24
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graph posted:who knows with the american fda viagra was originally developed for hypertension but then everyone got a boner
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Aug 17, 2018 22:39
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Schadenboner posted:I used to take like 50mg of benadryl to help me sleep but apparently it might be, like, bad? It also sometimes made me super 10 mg is a way higher amount of melatonin than you should be taking. Like 100-300 mcgs is where you should start.
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Aug 17, 2018 22:47
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skull mask mcgee posted:10 mg is a way higher amount of melatonin than you should be taking. Like 100-300 mcgs is where you should start. The otc pills are 5mg? I started with 1 but moved up by halves to 10 and stayed there. These guys: https://www.cvs.com/shop/cvs-health-melatonin-tablets-5mg-prodid-1013063  
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Aug 17, 2018 22:51
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i do 1mg
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Aug 17, 2018 22:52
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Just lol if you don't drink yourself to sleep
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Aug 17, 2018 22:55
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I'm finally getting good sleep again after antidepressants basically annihilated having any kind of proper sleep schedule for me a few years ago all I did set a realistic schedule that I stick to, wear a sleep mask, and make sure I'm comfortable i really dont want to take any drugs that mess with sleep anymore after that experience
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Aug 17, 2018 22:55
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skull mask mcgee posted:10 mg is a way higher amount of melatonin than you should be taking. Like 100-300 mcgs is where you should start. melatonin pills in the US are huge. my doctor said to start with 0.5mg and the smallest tablets i could find were 1mg, and they weren't easy to find. most bottles were the 10mg variety, as shown: https://www.walgreens.com/store/c/nature%27s-bounty-maximum-strength-melatonin-10-mg-capsules/ID=prod6031117-product i just wish preparations were regulated like drugs if doctors are going to prescribe a dosage
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Aug 17, 2018 23:02
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Aug 17, 2018 23:04
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Schadenboner posted:The otc pills are 5mg? I started with 1 but moved up by halves to 10 and stayed there. These guys: https://www.cvs.com/shop/cvs-health-melatonin-tablets-5mg-prodid-1013063 1mg exists: https://www.walgreens.com/store/c/nature%27s-bounty-melatonin-1-mg-dietary-supplement-tablets/ID=prod8658-product
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Aug 17, 2018 23:04
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hobbesmaster posted:1mg exists: https://www.walgreens.com/store/c/nature%27s-bounty-melatonin-1-mg-dietary-supplement-tablets/ID=prod8658-product Wallgreens sells tobacco and leaves birth control "to the conscience of the gently caress them. CVS has 1s though: https://www.cvs.com/shop/nature-s-bounty-melatonin-tablets-1mg-180ct-prodid-1013008?skuid=679789
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i found 300mcgs at kroger
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Aug 17, 2018 23:15
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