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Big Mean Jerk posted:No, because CBS execs aren’t aware DS9 exists, so there will never be a studio mandate for DS9 fanwank. In thinking if it the opposite way, some writer could sneak in a character and nobody would say "Don't reference ds9" because they wouldn't know what it is
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they could bring in the entire cast of ds9 to play new characters including combs and it still wouldn't be enough to salvage discovery.
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Star Trek Discovery a la Rotten Tomatoes: Critics: 82% Audience: 56% Sometimes I wonder if critics are just contrarian morons who like using sophism to explain that they're not really dumb but that they're just much better than you are. Because they like poo poo. Also, I just heard the Klingons are getting another remake. Into Darkness got a lot more wrong than it did right, but I thought the Klingon redesign ideas they had were pretty cool: https://io9.gizmodo.com/the-beautiful-klingon-designs-jj-abrams-rejected-for-st-1216785197   
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I don’t trust the audience ratings on RT because they’re regularly bombed by people who just flat out oppose any new show/movie in their beloved franchise.
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Aug 17, 2018 18:52
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Are they wrong in this case, though?
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discovery bombed with audiences and was highly regarded by critics. orville bombed with critics and was well received by audiences people like the big bang theory too though, so who knows. at least the orville was fun. and within its own universe had more internal logical consistency than discovery which was a loving Mess.
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STD is a big wet fart and the only Deep Space Nine references that are allowed are to section 31 so kurtzman can write his gritty post 9/11 imperial apologia
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Yandat posted:discovery bombed with audiences and was highly regarded by critics. orville bombed with critics and was well received by audiences THe Orville rules, and I'm sad I have to keep waiting for new episodes
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Bogus Adventure posted:Sometimes I wonder if critics are just contrarian morons who like using sophism to explain that they're not really dumb but that they're just much better than you are. Because they like poo poo. I think you're confusing film critics with CineD posters.
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Wrath of the Bitch King posted:I think you're confusing film critics with CineD posters. Same difference?
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Bogus Adventure posted:Same difference? Critics get paid to be contrarian morons.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:No, because CBS execs aren’t aware DS9 exists, so there will never be a studio mandate for DS9 fanwank. smh when they'll reference Enterprise but not DS9.
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Kibayasu posted:Critics get paid to be contrarian morons. Fair dues. I know Martok is a G, but I miss Gowron. Dude was so cool when he showed up, and then DS9 ruined him by making him an insane rear end in a top hat. Also, what's up with Worf being Kingmaker of the Klingon Empire?
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Gowron was always an insane rear end in a top hat
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"Please, Martok, that is a torpedo launch initiator!"
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Martok is cooler so that's just how it goes in the empire.
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Bogus Adventure posted:Star Trek Discovery a la Rotten Tomatoes:
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Gowron was always an insane rear end in a top hat But he was a COOL insane rear end in a top hat in TNG.    Flipswitch posted:These are actually my fave klingons. They look cool as gently caress. I know, right? I thought that was a pretty good update to the original Klingon redesign, and those metal braids are loving epic.
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Bogus Adventure posted:But he was a COOL insane rear end in a top hat in TNG. That's clearly Kavok. 
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std is a poorly advised disappointment but lol if anyone trusts internet audience ratings of things at this point actually lol if you trust critics and ratings in general, form your own drat opinions folks, your time is actually not that valuable
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i think it'd be funnier if he showed up to solve tactical/combat problems. like worf is downstairs in the conference room with the melconian ambassador, when suddenly, red alert - the mazone are attacking! worf rushes up to take charge, but by the time he gets to the bridge the opponent starship is a smoking ruin and martok's already lighting up a victory cigar
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"ah, worf! i was already here, regaling your officers with tales of our glorious battles against the Dominion, so i decided to take charge, and show these young starfleet targlings how we did things back in the old days. remember, worf? when we piloted the Rotarran against endless waves of Dominion attack ships? what a glorious time it was." "general, we have talked about this. it is inappropriate for you to assume comm-" "oh, do not worry about such things, worf... out here, a thousand light-years away from the bu-reau-crats, nobody needs know about it. and there is no shame in letting an old warrior like me take the reins... you still have decades of glory left in you! come! let us crack open a barrel of blood wine, to celebrate this victory!" "captain worf... the melconian ambassador is on the comm. he's very dissatisfied with the seating arrangement and demands that the room be reconfigured again." worf begins to think that blood wine is sounding mighty appealing right now Farmer Crack-Ass fucked around with this message at 21:49 on Aug 17, 2018 |
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A.I. Borgland Corp posted:Do you think Discovery would do something like have Emony or Audrid or Torias Dax show up for an episode? Whatever skin suit dax is piloting at the moment. It'd be either Emony or Audrid. Emony was the one that hosed McCoy when he was in med school.
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I propose Worf meets Dorf: While serving as Federation ambassador to Qo'nos Worf suffers a freak targ hunting accident that results in his legs being amputated at the knees. Determined to prove he is still a useful warrior he guilts the Federation into giving him a new starship command (USS Mercury or Achilles?) where all sorts of wacky hi-jinks ensue. The finale will be a big reveal that the entire series happened in Worf's head in the days following the accident where his depression caused him to drink to death on blood wine.
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Fabulousity posted:I propose Worf meets Dorf: While serving as Federation ambassador to Qo'nos Worf suffers a freak targ hunting accident that results in his legs being amputated at the knees. Determined to prove he is still a useful warrior he guilts the Federation into giving him a new starship command (USS Mercury or Achilles?) where all sorts of wacky hi-jinks ensue. I hope that during that time, he binge watches "an ancient earth visual entertainment form known as a television show, called King of the Hill". "The father of the main character was a great warrior named Cotton Hill, who killed fitty nazzys and fitty tojo warriors, bare handed"
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wesleywillis posted:I hope that during that time, he binge watches "an ancient earth visual entertainment form known as a television show, called King of the Hill". And he never realizes that he's just like Hank. It ain't a stretch to compare Alexander to Bobby, neither.
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discovery was structurally terrible but very exciting i just want the writers to come up with a consistent in universe explanation for why disco looks so much more advanced than tos enterprise like even if they just straight up said they're doing a visual retcon, but at the moment nothing
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Bobby Deluxe posted:discovery was structurally terrible but very exciting
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wesleywillis posted:Whats with all the Chief O'Brien hate? Behead those who dishonor the O'Briens
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it's an excellent reason to never set anything prior to tos. they barely had computers most of the time, much less the sort of flashy technology that modern shows are required to include. like, just leave it alone already.
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ijii posted:1966 was when TOS was released, what the gently caress. I really really don't understand people complaining about this. Of all the things to complain about STD, this has to be the most pointless thing to complain about. Why would they need to give an official explanation on this? the entire enterprise thing explaining klingon foreheads was loving stupid. the makeup was too expensive in 1966. that’s it. christ ds9 making fun of it was about as far as they should have gone
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because it's logically inconsistent and aaaaaaaaaaa
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Yandat posted:the entire enterprise thing explaining klingon foreheads was loving stupid. Pretty much this. It was a good joke in Trials and Tribble-ations. It didn't need to be developed on.
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Fojar38 posted:std is a poorly advised disappointment but lol if anyone trusts internet audience ratings of things at this point I don't trust any negative reviews these days because it seems like most of them are because of an axe to grind. That said you can't really trust most positive reviews either since there's so much astroturfing. Basically I just sit in my basement and watch ENT and like it, dammit.
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The USS Enterprise was actually just a constantly refitted and expanded Space Shuttle Enterprise. That's why it has a bunch of old poo poo on it.
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It's not important and kind of a stupid thing to complain about, but it's also an incredibly simple thing to fix; don't make loving prequels. Stop clinging desperately to words and things everyone knows and advance your god drat universe. Star Trek can actually exist without a Spock being in it.
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counterfeitsaint posted:It's not important and kind of a stupid thing to complain about, but it's also an incredibly simple thing to fix; don't make loving prequels. Stop clinging desperately to words and things everyone knows and advance your god drat universe. Star Trek can actually exist without a Spock being in it. this I'm loving sick of Kirk, Spock, and McCoy lets see the aftermath of the dominion war; beaten down federation, beaten down and reformed cardassian union, reformed ferengi alliance, and (reformed?) klingon empire, versus a mostly untouched and ascendant romulan empire
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The only thing I like about them not really building on the status of the great powers following the dominion war is I get to pretend that my own version of the dominion war happened
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