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Caesar Saladin posted:mmo hotbar combat is goddamn miserable though, you wow nerds can say nothing to dispute that Eh, it can be lovely or it can be okay, depends on the game and how it's designed (and also what you're looking for). Never going to be as good as a well-made non-MMO's combat though. Though frankly I think I'd rather play WoW's combat system than an Elder Scrolls game's, but that ain't a high bar to clear That said it will forever suck that the only MMOs that really try to have really good and responsive action combat are Korean, Chinese, or Japanese grindfests that are awful in literally every way except for how the combat feels (and the Japanese ones that are less awful will never come to the West, like PSO2 and Dragon's Dogma Online)
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The worst thing about WoW is the nerds who don't play it but continue to bitch about how it's "ruined" now that it no longer takes 4 hours to set up a group
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Aug 17, 2018 16:55
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Can't wait for them to flock in to play WoW Classic and spend a month or two insisting that they're having fun before slowly drifting away and insisting that this isn't their classic WoW, their nostalgia memories must be what the game was really like and Blizzard did it wrong
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My favorite wow thing to do was to get a friend or two and hide behind a bush or hill next to a relatively obscure path (like the one from the main dwarf area to wetlands or something) and just wait for someone to come, and then start following them around. No griefing or interference, no emotes, no dialogue at all, just following them for however long it takes for the victim to start going all "????" or "Uhm.. Hello?" and then a few days later send them random vendor trash in the mail with a cryptic message like they're being spied on by cultists I also liked to go boundary breaking, climbing into areas you're not supposed to access like hyjal or quel'thalas, just because it was kind of a challenge and there were rumors that doing so would get you banned (it didn't, i think) and it was cool to see the edge of the world where there's just void. Shibawanko fucked around with this message at 17:27 on Aug 17, 2018 |
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Aug 17, 2018 17:24
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Harrow posted:Yeah but what games aren't these days ones that aren't poo poo 1redflag posted:I think you might be getting ripped off it's some negligible amount of dosh during Steam sales or whatever, yes. which makes it even sadder if you're dropping money on some lootbox-infested shite olives black fucked around with this message at 17:35 on Aug 17, 2018 |
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Aug 17, 2018 17:30
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Lol, okay guy. Anyways, Everyday Shooter for PS3 was one of the best twin stick shooters ever created. It's lack of popularity and fade into oblivion is a crime. E. Just realized it's available for pc through steam. https://store.steampowered.com/app/16300/Everyday_Shooter/ Brother Tadger fucked around with this message at 17:55 on Aug 17, 2018 |
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Aug 17, 2018 17:52
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Wow is poo poo now and loke everything mentioned is part of the reason. Dual specs and group finder and turning everything into a messy ugly boring auto pilot experience thats holds uour hand and never gives you a real reason to do the harder things lol gently caress wow
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basic hitler posted:Wow is poo poo now and loke everything mentioned is part of the reason. Dual specs and group finder and turning everything into a messy ugly boring auto pilot experience thats holds uour hand and never gives you a real reason to do the harder things lol gently caress wow Dual specs are gone and mythic+ dungeons kick rear end, can't be entered using the auto-group finder, and are hard and require coordination and paying attention to beat an extra hard-mode dungeon in a time limit, it's fun
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Aug 17, 2018 18:14
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basic hitler posted:Wow is poo poo now and loke everything mentioned is part of the reason. Dual specs and group finder and turning everything into a messy ugly boring auto pilot experience thats holds uour hand and never gives you a real reason to do the harder things lol gently caress wow Fried Watermelon posted:The worst thing about WoW is the nerds who don't play it but continue to bitch about how it's "ruined" now that it no longer takes 4 hours to set up a group
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basic hitler posted:Wow is poo poo now and loke everything mentioned is part of the reason. Dual specs and group finder and turning everything into a messy ugly boring auto pilot experience thats holds uour hand and never gives you a real reason to do the harder things lol gently caress wow Have you heard about the wonderful game called Wildstar, currently living on top of City of Heroes' grave?
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Aug 17, 2018 18:51
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Shibawanko posted:My favorite wow thing to do was to get a friend or two and hide behind a bush or hill next to a relatively obscure path (like the one from the main dwarf area to wetlands or something) and just wait for someone to come, and then start following them around. No griefing or interference, no emotes, no dialogue at all, just following them for however long it takes for the victim to start going all "????" or "Uhm.. Hello?". I used to do the same thing in Runescape a decade ago, just silently follow PCs around, and enjoying the tantrum they would always throw after a while.
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WoW freakin sucks because I thought I was good at it but then checked logs and turns out my Hunters DPS was only 5% or so above average globally. Humbled, I resigned from WoW forever. Did great in WotLK but progressively worse til Legion where I was mathematically barely above average. Mama mia! Dandywalken fucked around with this message at 19:58 on Aug 17, 2018 |
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Aug 17, 2018 19:56
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TheScott2K posted:There was in like 2009 wow it's a good thing you're using it as criticism against a game that came out in 06 then oblivion is way worse than morrowind was and i'd go so far as to say it's outright the worst elder scrolls game outside of weird poo poo like redguard but acting like at release oblivion didn't seem pretty AF (environmentwise, at least) with tons of cool stuff to do is revisionism bordering on absurdity. it was a game so popular that it got the esrb all pissed and forced them to reprint it with a different rating. the 'modern' pc gaming scene was still pretty nascent back then so the fact that it was so incredibly popular should say something.
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Shibawanko posted:My favorite wow thing to do was to get a friend or two and hide behind a bush or hill next to a relatively obscure path (like the one from the main dwarf area to wetlands or something) and just wait for someone to come, and then start following them around. No griefing or interference, no emotes, no dialogue at all, just following them for however long it takes for the victim to start going all "????" or "Uhm.. Hello?" and then a few days later send them random vendor trash in the mail with a cryptic message like they're being spied on by cultists Both of these are way more fun irl
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food court bailiff posted:acting like at release oblivion didn't seem pretty AF (environmentwise, at least) with tons of cool stuff to do is revisionism bordering on absurdity. Truth. People can say whatever they want now and yuck yuck it up about "N64 graphics", but Oblivion really did impress the market at the time. Pretty much everyone thought it looked good, and the amount of world you could see without hitting a loading screen was near revolutionary. It was definitely ahead of the market when it came out.
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Chomp8645 posted:Truth. People that say stuff like "N64 graphics" re: Oblivion clearly didn't experience bullshit like Quest 64.
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I brought Oblivion in 2006 and played it on my $1600 PC with the game maxed and the draw distance graphics looked N64-like. Only the environments right in front of your face we're pretty.
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Yeah Oblivion was gorgeous at the time. Wandering into one of those copy-pasted dungeons was still a unique, pretty experience for the time. It looks bad now, and really it looked pretty bad within a year or two in that same generation of games, but it was pretty when new.
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I remember being impressed with Oblivion's graphics and actually the game has some of the best handcrafted quests in the series (like some of the Daedric ones and that one where you get stuck in a painting), but the round faces were so off putting and I didn't care about the world you were put in because it was boring.
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when oblivion came out there was a sizable mod scene involved just to make it ugly enough to run on hardware more than a couple years old the character models are unforgivable but seriously some of you guys are nuts
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Really not sure why anyone would continue to play Elder Scrolls after playing Morrowind (other than for the porn mods, I guess). And by "playing" I mean having spent a few hours dicking around in the Xbox version after it hit the bargain bin for $10. olives black fucked around with this message at 14:17 on Aug 18, 2018 |
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Aug 18, 2018 01:35
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Oblivion sucks but the first time you exit the dungeons and overlook the lake is awesome. When it came out anyway.
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Bloodborne is probably the most overrated PS4 game.
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Nearly all AAA game music sucks rear end. It's usually like the Halo theme: choral and droning and generic. I hate choral music that doesn't have actual lyrics and is just like HOOO-hoo-hoo-HOOO-hoo-AHHH-AAAAAAhhhhhh. There's almost no creativity there and most AAA titles do this nowadays.
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Nearly all game music sucks rear end.
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People who listen to game sountracks are like people who listen to porn music
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punk rebel ecks posted:The first half of the previous generation (2005-2009) sucked. Unpopular Videogame Opinion: MGS4 was actually Real Good Especially compared to MGSV. It still had the third person shooter elements but was an actually interesting Metal Gear game as opposed to a open world slog. You had interestingly designed levels with tons of small details and secrets to find and because you could instantly swap equipment on the fly, you actually could reasonably use more than 10% of the gear you've acquired even if it just for a laugh. It was weird, it was funny, it was dramatic, and it was actually Metal Gear in tone as opposed to whatever the hell MGSV was trying to be. I've genuinely never understood why MGS4 is so hated beyond the "lol the cutscenes long" joke.
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No game can be “overrated” because that means you think too many people think something is good, which isn’t a criticism of the game but of the society the game is released in, and therefore isn’t a reflection of the game or its qualities. Saying something is “overrated” is shorthand for “I don’t like a popular thing” and that is literally the only information that statement is capable of providing.
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Doesn't MGS4 have at least one literally movie-length cutscene? I know I tried to look up the ending on youtube when it came outn amd back then youtube videos were limited to 10 minutes and the epilogue was like 3 parts
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Shibawanko posted:Nearly all AAA game music sucks rear end. It's usually like the Halo theme: choral and droning and generic. I hate choral music that doesn't have actual lyrics and is just like HOOO-hoo-hoo-HOOO-hoo-AHHH-AAAAAAhhhhhh. There's almost no creativity there and most AAA titles do this nowadays. But its sounds so epic!
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Yeah the end of chapter 3-4 has a 87 minute long cutscene that is commonly regarded as Kojima’s directorial swan song. To refer to it as “overdone” is an indictment of the limited scope of that word
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Bust Rodd posted:No game can be “overrated” because that means you think too many people think something is good, which isn’t a criticism of the game but of the society the game is released in, and therefore isn’t a reflection of the game or its qualities.  factually, objectively, demonstrably rated too high poverty goat fucked around with this message at 13:54 on Aug 18, 2018 |
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Aug 18, 2018 13:51
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The complaint against GTA4 I had was that it felt like a significant step back from San Andreas because Rockstar used a new game engine (Euphoria) that they didn’t perfect until Red Dead Redemption two years later. So it had all kinds of weird control problems with the car handling in particular being annoying. If I hear one person say “but that’s how cars handle in real life” like I heard in 2008 I will lose it.
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Aug 18, 2018 13:59
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GTA4 the best GTA outside of clones. Gta5 sucks
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Aug 18, 2018 13:59
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They should just remake San Andreas for the next GTA
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Bust Rodd posted:No game can be “overrated” because that means you think too many people think something is good, which isn’t a criticism of the game but of the society the game is released in, and therefore isn’t a reflection of the game or its qualities. 
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https://i.imgur.com/HUI72mU.mp4
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Lmao
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Bust Rodd posted:No game can be “overrated” because that means you think too many people think something is good, which isn’t a criticism of the game but of the society the game is released in, and therefore isn’t a reflection of the game or its qualities. This is Unpopular Opinions. Unintelligible Opinions is next door.
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Here's a recent post on the subject of GTAIV's high-score: http://shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=43438
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