OSHA: definitely bent in the straight places

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haveblue: Aug 15, 2005; Toilet Rascal

That is one industrial-strength humidifier

# ? Aug 18, 2018 21:10

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# ? May 17, 2024 02:03

Hobnob: Feb 23, 2006; Ursa Adorandum

I've seen similar in a flat I lived in as a student in London. Not quite that bad, but water dripping off the light fittings and out of the electrical conduit when it rained, etc. Actually the whole flat was as OSHA (or I guess HSE) as hell, I'm kind of surprised it didn't collapse if you slammed the (wildly mis-matched) doors hard. Part of the ceiling was constructed out of an old snooker table, you could still see the pockets hanging down.

# ? Aug 18, 2018 21:19

TVs Ian: Jun 1, 2000; Such graceful, delicate creatures.

Kith posted:

https://i.imgur.com/AXwnzx2.mp4

# ? Aug 18, 2018 21:32

Say Nothing: Mar 5, 2013; by FactsAreUseless

# ? Aug 18, 2018 22:51

Nenonen: Oct 22, 2009; Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Say Nothing posted:

Tetris amateur :smug:

# ? Aug 18, 2018 22:59

Jet Jaguar: Feb 12, 2006; Don't touch my bags if you please, Mr Customs Man.

Hobnob posted:

I've seen similar in a flat I lived in as a student in London. Not quite that bad, but water dripping off the light fittings and out of the electrical conduit when it rained, etc. Actually the whole flat was as OSHA (or I guess HSE) as hell, I'm kind of surprised it didn't collapse if you slammed the (wildly mis-matched) doors hard. Part of the ceiling was constructed out of an old snooker table, you could still see the pockets hanging down.

How desperate were they for building materials that they chopped up a snooker table? Though now that I think of it, one of the steps in my house was made partially out of a child�s desktop...

# ? Aug 18, 2018 23:08

Rev. Bleech_: Oct 19, 2004; ~OKAY, WE'LL DRINK TO OUR LEGS!~

Say Nothing posted:

imagine a truck horn playing "Dixie", forever

# ? Aug 19, 2018 04:38

f#a#: Sep 6, 2004; I can't promise it will live up to the hype, but I tried my best.

Does anybody have that picture of uranium/plutonium "bullets" just sitting around right next to each other, and can someone explain it why it's dangerous?

# ? Aug 19, 2018 05:52

The Lone Badger: Sep 24, 2007

This one?

The bright tubes leaning against the wall are storage cases. They have been carefully designed to make sure you can't accidentally create a supercritical mass by mishandling them.
The dull metal rods are plutonium. Note that they are outside their storage cases, and thus these engineering controls have been circumvented and problems may occur.
It's surprisingly unintuitive what can cause an excursion - for example, trying to move one rod away from the others might mean that the water in your hand acts as a neutron reflector and sends the arrangement supercritical, causing everyone nearby to get a massive radiation dose.

# ? Aug 19, 2018 06:04

ullerrm: Dec 31, 2012; Oh, the network slogan is true -- "watch FOX and be damned for all eternity!"

f#a# posted:

Does anybody have that picture of uranium/plutonium "bullets" just sitting around right next to each other, and can someone explain it why it's dangerous?

This was taken at the PF-4 lab in Los Alamos in 2011. They put them on a table to photograph them, to show how finely machined they were.

It's dangerous because there's enough plutonium in those rods to constitute critical mass. Bump the table so that one of the rods rolls into its adjacent one, and there's a reasonable fear that it could trigger an uncontrolled nuclear chain reaction, killing everyone in the room and rendering the building uninhabitable.

Hell, you don't even need to move the rods -- just have a lot of people standing around the table. Human bodies are mostly water, and pretty good at reflecting neutrons.

Multiple safety managers at LANL resigned in protest when this picture made the rounds, and the lab lost its charter to perform plutonium handling.

# ? Aug 19, 2018 06:11

Hobnob: Feb 23, 2006; Ursa Adorandum

Jet Jaguar posted:

How desperate were they for building materials that they chopped up a snooker table? Though now that I think of it, one of the steps in my house was made partially out of a child�s desktop...

I dunno, the whole place was an ancient Victorian(?) house converted ineptly into a number of rickety flats. Some of the rooms had >12ft ceilings (my bedroom was only just big enough to fit a bed in and was considerably taller than it was wide or deep), and other rooms were only just tall enough to stand in. (My roommate, who was taller than me, couldn't stand up straight in the bath, for instance.) The snooker table formed the ceiling of the entry hall and kitchenette, and I think must have been the part of the floor of the flat above. The toilet not only had the telephone, but a second handy entry door from outside the flat.

I suspect the conversion had mostly been done by the resident caretaker/handyman, who seemed to live out of a single room under the stairs. Maybe he just used whatever he could get his hands on. The owners lived in the front rooms of the house, which were much more elegant.

# ? Aug 19, 2018 06:55

Wasabi the J: Jan 23, 2008; MOM WAS RIGHT

Grem posted:

Is that a child's bedroom? Holy gently caress that's terrifying.

Tears in Heaven could be described as haunting but terrifying is a stretch.

# ? Aug 19, 2018 06:55

Kith: Sep 17, 2009; You never learn anything
by doing it right.

https://i.imgur.com/q0ChZcw.mp4

I'm not good with identifying car models but something tells me this is a Tesla.

# ? Aug 19, 2018 07:25

HarmB: Jun 19, 2006

Kith posted:

https://i.imgur.com/q0ChZcw.mp4

I'm not good with identifying car models but something tells me this is a Tesla.

It's not though. BMW M5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aN6Vs_GGfbI

# ? Aug 19, 2018 07:46

Number_6: Jul 23, 2006; BAN ALL GAS GUZZLERS

(except for mine); Pillbug

Kith posted:

https://i.imgur.com/q0ChZcw.mp4

I'm not good with identifying car models but something tells me this is a Tesla.

It's a BMW.

Edit: beaten by seconds

# ? Aug 19, 2018 07:47

EoRaptor: Sep 13, 2003; by Fluffdaddy

Kith posted:

https://i.imgur.com/q0ChZcw.mp4

I'm not good with identifying car models but something tells me this is a Tesla.

BMW

# ? Aug 19, 2018 07:48

Platystemon: Feb 13, 2012; BREADS

This is what happens when you don�t use your blinkers.

Blinker fluid gets unstable as it ages.

# ? Aug 19, 2018 08:07

spankmeister: Jun 15, 2008

Platystemon posted:

This is what happens when you don’t use your blinkers.

Blinker fluid gets unstable as it ages.

Must be a common BMW ailment then.

# ? Aug 19, 2018 09:19

The Lone Badger: Sep 24, 2007

Kith posted:

https://i.imgur.com/q0ChZcw.mp4

I'm not good with identifying car models but something tells me this is a Tesla.

Nah it's just Ghost Rider.

# ? Aug 19, 2018 09:29

Nenonen: Oct 22, 2009; Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Kith posted:

https://i.imgur.com/q0ChZcw.mp4

I'm not good with identifying car models but something tells me this is a Tesla.

I would have said a DeLorean.

# ? Aug 19, 2018 11:13

Prav: Oct 29, 2011

looks like a porsche to me_{tank joke}

# ? Aug 19, 2018 12:21

zedprime: Jun 9, 2007; yospos

ullerrm posted:

This was taken at the PF-4 lab in Los Alamos in 2011. They put them on a table to photograph them, to show how finely machined they were.

It's dangerous because there's enough plutonium in those rods to constitute critical mass. Bump the table so that one of the rods rolls into its adjacent one, and there's a reasonable fear that it could trigger an uncontrolled nuclear chain reaction, killing everyone in the room and rendering the building uninhabitable.

Hell, you don't even need to move the rods -- just have a lot of people standing around the table. Human bodies are mostly water, and pretty good at reflecting neutrons.

Multiple safety managers at LANL resigned in protest when this picture made the rounds, and the lab lost its charter to perform plutonium handling.

The post hoc analysis is that there wasn't the right mass and geometry even with the amount of bodies and the timeframe meant limited chances for other accidents that could provide the trigger. The problem and controversy is that this was post hoc. Someone figured the same thing in their head and decided to do it when the correct way of working is to file for an exception and spend the months engineering how your photoshoot isn't going to go supercritical.

# ? Aug 19, 2018 14:18

dexter6: Sep 22, 2003

Fancy_Breakfast posted:

I was standing up in the back of the ambulance when the driver took a hard turn and I got slammed to one side of the vehicle and sprained 2 of my fingers. I nearly fell on top of my patient too.
We're not allowed to stand while the vehicle is moving so I can't say poo poo. But it's nearly impossible to work in most ambulances without at least having to remove your seatbelt to grab things.
What was I reaching for? A loving tissue so my patient could blow their nose.

My #1 fear is being in the back and being involved in an actual crash. It's literally just a fibreglass box body with almost zero crash protection. That and having seats and odd angles and often not wearing seatbelts, ensures that most ambulance crashes are fatal. Scares me a bit.

I guess I could make a big deal about it and go to occupational health about my screwed up fingers but I think management will just discipline me or something.

Oh sorry here's a video.

edit: changed to a gif

FF/EMT here (17 years experience)... Glad you didn�t die, sorry you got a little hurt. I�m a mad your driver didn�t stop at the red light. It�s stuff like this that makes me transport almost no patient with lights and sirens. There are some departments around here that take everyone with lights from as stubbed toe to a stroke. My preference is to get there safely vs 90 seconds sooner.

# ? Aug 19, 2018 14:21

Ornamental Dingbat: Feb 26, 2007

ullerrm posted:

This was taken at the PF-4 lab in Los Alamos in 2011. They put them on a table to photograph them, to show how finely machined they were.

It's dangerous because there's enough plutonium in those rods to constitute critical mass. Bump the table so that one of the rods rolls into its adjacent one, and there's a reasonable fear that it could trigger an uncontrolled nuclear chain reaction, killing everyone in the room and rendering the building uninhabitable.

Hell, you don't even need to move the rods -- just have a lot of people standing around the table. Human bodies are mostly water, and pretty good at reflecting neutrons.

Multiple safety managers at LANL resigned in protest when this picture made the rounds, and the lab lost its charter to perform plutonium handling.

The part I always liked is how the top rods are laid on an angle that defeats the anti-roll nubs that were molded into them.

# ? Aug 19, 2018 14:43

spog: Aug 7, 2004; It's your own bloody fault.

ullerrm posted:

This was taken at the PF-4 lab in Los Alamos in 2011. They put them on a table to photograph them, to show how finely machined they were.

It's dangerous because there's enough plutonium in those rods to constitute critical mass. Bump the table so that one of the rods rolls into its adjacent one, and there's a reasonable fear that it could trigger an uncontrolled nuclear chain reaction, killing everyone in the room and rendering the building uninhabitable.

Hell, you don't even need to move the rods -- just have a lot of people standing around the table. Human bodies are mostly water, and pretty good at reflecting neutrons.

Multiple safety managers at LANL resigned in protest when this picture made the rounds, and the lab lost its charter to perform plutonium handling.

2011???

I thought this was taken in 1950-something when they were still in the wild west of nuclear science.

# ? Aug 19, 2018 14:44

Mr-Spain: Aug 27, 2003; Bullshit... you can be mine.

Worst thing about that picture is the worlds dirtiest sharpie.

# ? Aug 19, 2018 15:01

The Real Amethyst: Apr 20, 2018; When no one was looking, Serval took forty Japari buns. She took 40 buns. That's as many as four tens. And that's terrible.

dexter6 posted:

FF/EMT here (17 years experience)... Glad you didn’t die, sorry you got a little hurt. I’m a mad your driver didn’t stop at the red light. It’s stuff like this that makes me transport almost no patient with lights and sirens. There are some departments around here that take everyone with lights from as stubbed toe to a stroke. My preference is to get there safely vs 90 seconds sooner.

Just to clarify that video isn't me. The driver during my call just took a turn, probably not even too sharply. lovely rural roads.

# ? Aug 19, 2018 15:12

Irradiation: Sep 14, 2005; I understand your frustration.

Mr-Spain posted:

Worst thing about that picture is the worlds dirtiest sharpie.

That�s what everything in a rad hood or glove box starts to look like after a while.

# ? Aug 19, 2018 15:15

chitoryu12: Apr 24, 2014

Kith posted:

https://i.imgur.com/q0ChZcw.mp4

I'm not good with identifying car models but something tells me this is a Tesla.

"My car's on fire! I need to outrun it!"

# ? Aug 19, 2018 17:30

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chitoryu12 posted:

"My car's on fire! I need to outrun it!"

I think he was trying to park it in a better place than an intersection.

# ? Aug 19, 2018 17:38

oohhboy: Jun 8, 2013; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

He parked it next to a park, it checks out.

# ? Aug 19, 2018 17:54

-Zydeco-: Nov 12, 2007

Industrial 8 gauge slam fire shotgun for kiln cleaning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i82WuHCGAk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuPtqHS3EMI

# ? Aug 19, 2018 18:17

Grem: Mar 29, 2004; It's how her species communicates

I know nothing about cleaning a kiln, but what's the point of shooting just one spot over and over? Make a little hole in the built up muck and clean from there?

# ? Aug 19, 2018 18:56

DarkDobe: Jul 11, 2008; Things are looking up...

Grem posted:

I know nothing about cleaning a kiln, but what's the point of shooting just one spot over and over? Make a little hole in the built up muck and clean from there?

I'm going to guess they are just going for a nice big concussion to knock poo poo loose?
This shotgun is just more practical than tossing little explosives in there.

Sorta like:
http://www.discovery.com/tv-shows/mythbusters/mythbusters-database/dynamite-clean-cement-truck/
(i.e. one of the best episodes for how it escalates)

# ? Aug 19, 2018 19:30

chitoryu12: Apr 24, 2014

The residue that builds up is so tough that you really can�t get it off with anything but explosives or massive guns.

# ? Aug 19, 2018 19:32

DarkDobe: Jul 11, 2008; Things are looking up...

chitoryu12 posted:

The residue that builds up is so tough that you really can�t get it off with anything but explosives or massive guns.

Looks like it!

http://winchesterindustrial.com/equipment.html

Seems like a fun part of the job to me!
I like how much they emphasize having the ability to work without waiting for cooldown - just shoot that poo poo outta there!
This is my favourite part though: 'with the patented �rifled barrel extension kit,� ricochets are virtually eliminated'
Glad that's an extra option!

# ? Aug 19, 2018 19:36

ullerrm: Dec 31, 2012; Oh, the network slogan is true -- "watch FOX and be damned for all eternity!"

Grem posted:

I know nothing about cleaning a kiln, but what's the point of shooting just one spot over and over? Make a little hole in the built up muck and clean from there?

When you're making cement in a rotary lime kiln, the slag forms in little rings. The gun shoots at an angle that's nearly parallel to the side of the kiln and knocks out a chunk of the ring, and the rest of the ring falls off and collapses inward.

The alternative is letting the kiln cool down (takes forever) and then going in there with pneumatic hammers or detcord.

# ? Aug 19, 2018 19:41

Phanatic: Mar 13, 2007; Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

DarkDobe posted:

Looks like it!

http://winchesterindustrial.com/equipment.html

Seems like a fun part of the job to me!

"Use Industrial Tools and loads to remove Nose Rings"

I support this.

# ? Aug 19, 2018 20:07

-Zydeco-: Nov 12, 2007

The first minute of this video shows the manual removal process that the guns avoid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43RFx8Pk6HE

# ? Aug 19, 2018 20:19

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# ? May 17, 2024 02:03

jetz0r: May 10, 2003; Tomorrow, our nation will sit on the throne of the world. This is not a figment of the imagination, but a fact. Tomorrow we will lead the world, Allah willing.

Look how much money the we've saved by not replacing fuses on the blue phase!

# ? Aug 19, 2018 20:52

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