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https://twitter.com/philly_dsa_lsc/status/1030567117756788736 gettin a little Occupyish there
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# ? Aug 18, 2018 15:51 |
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Socialists and communists are obsessed with work to the point that it blinds them to the reality of the modern age and that it is not necessary for every member of the population to labor and if workers controlled the means of production they are also entitled to automate it and distribute the profits evenly. There is no nobility in labor, no dignity, and fetishizing it does nothing but enable and empower the oligarchs in control.
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# ? Aug 18, 2018 16:02 |
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If your DSA or PSL organizer is talking about how everyone needs to work or how a jobs guarantee is more important than a basic income you can be safe in the knowledge that they're a CIA plant.
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# ? Aug 18, 2018 16:03 |
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Your Parents posted:Socialists and communists are obsessed with work to the point that it blinds them to the reality of the modern age and that it is not necessary for every member of the population to labor and if workers controlled the means of production they are also entitled to automate it and distribute the profits evenly. That is literally the point of communism you tool
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# ? Aug 18, 2018 17:53 |
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/philly_dsa_lsc/status/1030567117756788736 lol. the only leaders are the bossy kids at the playground, and it's never happened any other way Your Parents posted:Socialists and communists are obsessed with work to the point that it blinds them to the reality of the modern age and that it is not necessary for every member of the population to labor and if workers controlled the means of production they are also entitled to automate it and distribute the profits evenly. stfu liberal
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# ? Aug 18, 2018 18:23 |
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My hot take is that UBI is a simplistic kludge that tries to solve a complex and expansive problem. The superior solution both for social democracy and the eventual transition into communism is a system of nonprofit publicly owned corporations that directly compete with private ones across all essential good and services. Publicly owned retailers selling goods produced by publicly owned manufacturers at near-cost, and using the profits garnered to subsidize sales to people who can't afford to pay. As the program expands, it can move into non-essential fields. This combines the best aspects of price control, jobs programs, and safety net programs, and presents a slow but clear path to a wholly socialized economy.
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# ? Aug 18, 2018 18:31 |
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ubi is straight corporate welfare. also, there's almost no chance it isn't just food stamps+ and they won't let you spend it on anything, and despite being called ubi you probably won't receive it if you have a job
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# ? Aug 18, 2018 18:32 |
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Larry Parrish posted:ubi is straight corporate welfare. also, there's almost no chance it isn't just food stamps+ and they won't let you spend it on anything, and despite being called ubi you probably won't receive it if you have a job That's not ubi then
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# ? Aug 18, 2018 18:43 |
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Andrast posted:That's not ubi then try telling that to the politicians and wealthy donors talking about UBI
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# ? Aug 18, 2018 18:48 |
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ThomasPaine posted:That is literally the point of communism you tool i know its the point of anarcho syndicalism but im pretty sure the point of communism is to post memes online about gulags and fantasize about torturing and killing your political opponents, jews, gays, etc and say stuff like "when the revolution comes, i think i'll be a cop or a prison guard." "i'll make the posters" "ill make the wiki" etc
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# ? Aug 18, 2018 18:50 |
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Your Parents posted:i know its the point of anarcho syndicalism but im pretty sure the point of communism is to post memes online about gulags and fantasize about torturing and killing your political opponents, jews, gays, etc and say stuff like "when the revolution comes, i think i'll be a cop or a prison guard." Wrong. Topic Locked.
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# ? Aug 18, 2018 18:52 |
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I don't really have any single particular explanation in what specific way will UBI fail and I don't even buy the most common "well the sellers/lardlords will just hike prices to compensate" but in today world where money simultaneously mean everything while at the same time meaning exactly literally nothing for people and entities who're actually in control over stuff makes me worry that handing out people little tiny quantities of this virtual whatever is absolutely going to be just squashed and laundered out of them to the rich by the rich somehow. Surely once we, as a society come to an agreement that everyone deserves healthcare, food, and a place to live, there will be more efficient ways of helping everyone to that then just sprinkling the undermasses with some loose change.
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# ? Aug 18, 2018 19:01 |
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Your Parents posted:i know its the point of anarcho syndicalism but im pretty sure the point of communism is to post memes online about gulags and fantasize about torturing and killing your political opponents, jews, gays, etc and say stuff like "when the revolution comes, i think i'll be a cop or a prison guard." stfu liberal
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# ? Aug 18, 2018 19:06 |
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Your Parents posted:i know its the point of anarcho syndicalism but im pretty sure the point of communism is to post memes online about gulags and fantasize about torturing and killing your political opponents, jews, gays, etc and say stuff like "when the revolution comes, i think i'll be a cop or a prison guard." the hot takes are coming from inside the thread
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# ? Aug 18, 2018 19:42 |
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Mother loving epic posts by dfd and responding to dfd!!!
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# ? Aug 18, 2018 19:43 |
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make churches their fkn taxes
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# ? Aug 18, 2018 19:44 |
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Plutonis posted:Mother loving epic posts by dfd and responding to dfd!!!
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# ? Aug 18, 2018 19:53 |
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Larry Parrish posted:stfu liberal Larry Parrish posted:You post like a human being Now that you're gone: Actually, it is you who is the liberal.
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# ? Aug 18, 2018 19:56 |
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Owned by my own logic!
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# ? Aug 18, 2018 20:15 |
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This isn't that hot of a take but it's funny and the last page has been bad https://twitter.com/CavasShips/status/1030898355369664512 Won't someone think of the damage all this corruption investigation is doing to the Navy??? I also don't understand why this guy called himself Fat Leonard
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# ? Aug 18, 2018 20:30 |
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https://www.spectator.co.uk/2018/08/the-case-for-bringing-back-feudalism/
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# ? Aug 18, 2018 20:52 |
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Atrocious Joe posted:This isn't that hot of a take but it's funny and the last page has been bad I kept misreading that as Fat Leopard Tunicate has issued a correction as of 20:59 on Aug 18, 2018 |
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Your Parents posted:Socialists and communists are obsessed with work to the point that it blinds them to the reality of the modern age and that it is not necessary for every member of the population to labor and if workers controlled the means of production they are also entitled to automate it and distribute the profits evenly. There's no nobility in some labor, but there definitely can be nobility in labor in the larger, broader sense of the word. Labor which originates in the citizen and exists outside of the sphere of coporate control. For example, I and my girlfriend labored to transform a wood shed into a chicken coop. It took me a day to dig a trench around it so that we could bury wire around it to prevent coyotes, etc. from digging in and getting the chickens. It was a sweaty job, but I certainly felt some measure of nobility in it.
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# ? Aug 18, 2018 22:11 |
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CountFosco posted:There's no nobility in some labor, but there definitely can be nobility in labor in the larger, broader sense of the word. Labor which originates in the citizen and exists outside of the sphere of coporate control. For example, I and my girlfriend labored to transform a wood shed into a chicken coop. It took me a day to dig a trench around it so that we could bury wire around it to prevent coyotes, etc. from digging in and getting the chickens. It was a sweaty job, but I certainly felt some measure of nobility in it. you might be right but are you sure it wasn't heatstroke?
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# ? Aug 18, 2018 22:28 |
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Adequate amount of labor, ideally simultaneously physically and mentally taxing, keeps the brain rot away and is one of the many thing the rich need like loving salt. Celebrating labor is perfectly fine and good and it's compatible with the fact that with today degree of automatization you can have people who won't be ever working; we still celebrate sports and art and it doesn't mean everyone needs to play ball while reciting Shakespeare at all times.
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# ? Aug 18, 2018 22:34 |
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/philly_dsa_lsc/status/1030567117756788736
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# ? Aug 18, 2018 23:56 |
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that's a hot taki
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# ? Aug 19, 2018 01:05 |
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this "Harry Potter is the #resistance Bible" take is especially infuriating because he mentions the actual reason why this generation is pissed off right in the tweet where he talks about pop culture
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# ? Aug 19, 2018 01:07 |
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Refering to people in their 20's as "the children" is weird as hell
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# ? Aug 19, 2018 02:25 |
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Your Parents posted:
You also post like a human being (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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# ? Aug 19, 2018 04:58 |
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get that OUT of my face posted:this "Harry Potter is the #resistance Bible" take is especially infuriating because he mentions the actual reason why this generation is pissed off right in the tweet where he talks about pop culture lol
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# ? Aug 19, 2018 05:01 |
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did not think the revolution was possible until the plutocrats let me play mario
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# ? Aug 19, 2018 05:03 |
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little munchkin posted:did not think the revolution was possible until the plutocrats let me play mario
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# ? Aug 19, 2018 05:05 |
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Your Parents posted:i know its the point of anarcho syndicalism but im pretty sure the point of communism is to post memes online about gulags and fantasize about torturing and killing your political opponents, jews, gays, etc and say stuff like "when the revolution comes, i think i'll be a cop or a prison guard."
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# ? Aug 19, 2018 05:05 |
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Ssilversmith posted:They targeted gamers.
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# ? Aug 19, 2018 05:05 |
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Gang Weed rise up
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# ? Aug 19, 2018 05:08 |
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Dreddout posted:Refering to people in their 20's as "the children" is weird as hell I got an eye exam when I was 30 and the woman, who couldn't have been more than 10 years oder than me, said "kids like you." to which I said "I'm 30" and she just kind of spluttered.
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cenotaph posted:I got an eye exam when I was 30 and the woman, who couldn't have been more than 10 years oder than me, said "kids like you." to which I said "I'm 30" and she just kind of spluttered. cougars calling you a kid is hot
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