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I was about to tell people not to pre-order because it's a waste of money, but then I remembered that you can flip them for profit, so....
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this was a cool watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5LUXJIq8hU
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Aug 19, 2018 08:48
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LRADIKAL posted:I was about to tell people not to pre-order because it's a waste of money, but then I remembered that you can flip them for profit, so.... How is it a waste of money if the product is extremely supply constrained during the first 3-6 months after launch? Being able to get something right away instead of waiting months is worth something.
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K8.0 posted:MGS V cannot run anywhere near 60 FPS at 4k on a 970. It's also nowhere near as graphically intensive as newer games. It's a PS3/360 port with fantastic art direction and relatively low polycounts/texture loads/special effects. Yes, ME:A is a shitshow, but this ridiculous idea that there are just magic games that push extra detail through wizardry needs to go away. Here's the first video I just Googled up of someone running 4K on a 970. Mother base is the most graphically intensive part of the game by far because it has a tremendous amount of geometry from all the structures in the distance. They're getting between 52-60 fps here, we don't even know if the card is overclocked to the max, and he's running Shadowplay which eats a few frames. I was getting 60 in non-Mother Base levels. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVq8Vm2U1pc Compared to the half-assed efforts from most developers, yes, the Fox Engine looks like wizardry in comparison. This like this and GTAV still look breathtaking to me while other AAA stuff years newer than those look much worse because they skimp on actual artists. Zero VGS fucked around with this message at 09:33 on Aug 19, 2018 |
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Aug 19, 2018 09:12
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:How is it a waste of money if the product is extremely supply constrained during the first 3-6 months after launch? Being able to get something right away instead of waiting months is worth something. Because you probably don't need the graphics card in any real meaningful way, and it's a way to err on the side of caution. I know there is the fantasy math of "get the most expensive card immediately so that you have the best thing for the longest time", but that's not an objectively positive thing. Sometimes products suck when they first come out, or are much more expensive. Does having the newest fastest card make your life better? Also, the ray tracing features won't be important for another few years, with some exceptions. a GTX 970 is the requirement for VR right now, and VR gaming is considered "high end". There aren't going to be many things that leverage the power and technology. I'm totally going to buy one and flip one if pre-orders are available. I make enough money to speculate on something like this and sell it for an inflated price. I'll prey on the dumb. Welcome to capitalism.
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Aug 19, 2018 09:35
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LRADIKAL posted:Because you probably don't need the graphics card in any real meaningful way, and it's a way to err on the side of caution. I know there is the fantasy math of "get the most expensive card immediately so that you have the best thing for the longest time", but that's not an objectively positive thing. Sometimes products suck when they first come out, or are much more expensive. Does having the newest fastest card make your life better? Also, the ray tracing features won't be important for another few years, with some exceptions. a GTX 970 is the requirement for VR right now, and VR gaming is considered "high end". There aren't going to be many things that leverage the power and technology. 
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Aug 19, 2018 12:21
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Any whispers of review embargo dates?
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Aug 19, 2018 12:41
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If you think this generation will have preorders after nearly nearly 20 years of not having them I want your optimism.
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Aug 19, 2018 12:50
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don't preorder expensive poo poo sight unseen jeez
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Aug 19, 2018 12:58
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CactusWeasle posted:Any whispers of review embargo dates? From what some German admins on CB and Toms let slip, mass production has not started as of last week and even preview Bios/drivers are not finished. So it's gonna be a while 
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Aug 19, 2018 13:04
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sauer kraut posted:From what some German admins on CB and Toms let slip, mass production has not started as of last week and even preview Bios/drivers are not finished. 
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LRADIKAL posted:Because you probably don't need the graphics card in any real meaningful way, and it's a way to err on the side of caution. I know there is the fantasy math of "get the most expensive card immediately so that you have the best thing for the longest time", but that's not an objectively positive thing. Sometimes products suck when they first come out, or are much more expensive. Does having the newest fastest card make your life better? Also, the ray tracing features won't be important for another few years, with some exceptions. a GTX 970 is the requirement for VR right now, and VR gaming is considered "high end". There aren't going to be many things that leverage the power and technology. Value is not determined by what people need, it is determined by what they want as demonstrated by what they are willing to pay for it. Welcome to capitalism.
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sauer kraut posted:From what some German admins on CB and Toms let slip, mass production has not started as of last week and even preview Bios/drivers are not finished. I’d bet they would have immediate inventory given all the shown designs and the fact that as soon as they preview the new cards sales of the Pascals will slow to a trickle.
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Aug 19, 2018 14:24
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I haven't kept up with GPU news in awhile. Are they really launching the xx80 Ti version with the xx70 and xx80s?
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Aug 19, 2018 16:02
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Nobody has said for 100% yet, but all signs point to yes.
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Aug 19, 2018 16:03
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Enos Cabell posted:Nobody has said for 100% yet, but all signs point to yes. Wow this is great news. Along with Intel's rumored 8 core soldered chips, I might be able to finally max out 1440p + 165hz.
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Aug 19, 2018 16:05
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LRADIKAL posted:Because you probably don't need the graphics card in any real meaningful way, and it's a way to err on the side of caution. I know there is the fantasy math of "get the most expensive card immediately so that you have the best thing for the longest time", but that's not an objectively positive thing. Sometimes products suck when they first come out, or are much more expensive. Does having the newest fastest card make your life better? Also, the ray tracing features won't be important for another few years, with some exceptions. a GTX 970 is the requirement for VR right now, and VR gaming is considered "high end". There aren't going to be many things that leverage the power and technology. Is that you, John Galt?
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Aug 19, 2018 18:09
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Ha! It's amazing what a little more cash in hand let's you do. I swear I'm a socialist, but dang, it'd be cool to get in on easy money by flipping expensive consumer gear. Money turns you so evil so fast.
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Aug 19, 2018 18:15
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You’re exploiting wealthy people’s desire for frivolous entertainment bullshit, and they aren’t going to die without it. You’re not Martin Shkreli just yet.
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Aug 19, 2018 18:29
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Flipping cards on ebay is a powerful form of socialism because it benefits Gamers, the most oppressed minority.
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Aug 19, 2018 18:31
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GAMERS RISE UP! Yeah, I guess it's a little different than buying up all the rice to resell.
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Aug 19, 2018 18:49
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Or limited quantity things that the manufacturers refuse to make more of. There will be more video cards made for sure after the initial shortage.
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Aug 19, 2018 18:54
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I thought AMD was the true GPU choice of socialist gamers everywhere.
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Aug 19, 2018 19:20
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Now that you can actually buy Vega.. should you? I have no idea
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Aug 19, 2018 19:34
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Is there any particular brand of Turing people are planning on buying? I'm learning towards Palit/Gainward because of how they tend to benchmark, and since I live in EU, EVGA's warranties probably don't matter that much. But I'll have to wait and see how ugly P/G manage to make their GPUs, especially if I need to sell it in a few.
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ChaseSP posted:Or limited quantity things that the manufacturers refuse to make more of. There will be more video cards made for sure after the initial shortage. The only things I've ever preordered a pile of to flip on eBay were Nexus 4 phones and Oculus Rift DK2 and CV1's. All three were super limited supply at launch which I knew would happen by gauging the insane demand, and I also knew their prices were effectively subsidized. Google was selling a $500 phone for $300 to claw back market share, Oculus needed devs to get the DK2, and Facebook wanted to undercut their competition. Long story short I bought about a dozen of each and sold on eBay for about $500-1000 profit each, with a majority of them apparently purchased by oil-rich kids in the UAE, Saudi Arabia, Turkey etc, and some bought by countries which the manufacturers wouldn't ship to (Oculus cancelled all preorders to China because people were pre-listing the preorders on Taobao) so then had to get them from me. Anyway, this batch of graphics cards probably has the low supply, and the insane demand, but what they don't have is a pre-order system, nor are they subsidized. So, you have those factors eating into your profit, but you could still find some success, though it might not be worth the risk (one credit card chargeback scam could erase your profits for instance).
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Aug 19, 2018 20:11
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This round will be EVGA because they're good and I have like 100 dollars of credit with them. Definitely getting one of the big fan models though, I don't like my PC making noise.
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Aug 19, 2018 20:42
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Should I buy a used 1080 TI I found on Craigslist for $400 or should I wait for the RTX 2070. Currently rocking the 980 TI and am still pretty happy about it though I have a 4k tv now and it would be great to play some titles at 4k.
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redeyes posted:Now that you can actually buy Vega.. should you? I have no idea The 56 still coming in around 1080 prices (or more) for 1070ti-ish performance. Might be worth the premium if you have a freesync monitor, otherwise probably not, especially with next gen Nvidia cards just around the corner.
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ufarn posted:Is there any particular brand of Turing people are planning on buying? I'm learning towards Palit/Gainward because of how they tend to benchmark, and since I live in EU, EVGA's warranties probably don't matter that much. I will wait for the reviews because I love being boring
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Theris posted:The 56 still coming in around 1080 prices (or more) for 1070ti-ish performance. Might be worth the premium if you have a freesync monitor, otherwise probably not, especially with next gen Nvidia cards just around the corner. I might pick one up if the Vega56 prices drop much further.
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Aug 19, 2018 21:00
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Zero VGS posted:The only things I've ever preordered a pile of to flip on eBay were Nexus 4 phones and Oculus Rift DK2 and CV1's. All three were super limited supply at launch which I knew would happen by gauging the insane demand, and I also knew their prices were effectively subsidized. Google was selling a $500 phone for $300 to claw back market share, Oculus needed devs to get the DK2, and Facebook wanted to undercut their competition. Long story short I bought about a dozen of each and sold on eBay for about $500-1000 profit each, with a majority of them apparently purchased by oil-rich kids in the UAE, Saudi Arabia, Turkey etc, and some bought by countries which the manufacturers wouldn't ship to (Oculus cancelled all preorders to China because people were pre-listing the preorders on Taobao) so then had to get them from me. Whatever let's you sleep at night
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dont pre order GPUs unless you want to get vega'ed
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Just pocketed 2 grand worth of pascal sales in the last hour just in time, sorry if its been said but has there been a leak on what specific time anything might be available for purchase?
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ufarn posted:Is there any particular brand of Turing people are planning on buying? I'm learning towards Palit/Gainward because of how they tend to benchmark, and since I live in EU, EVGA's warranties probably don't matter that much. I’ll wait for reviews and decide. Most like the ASUS strix or MSI gaming X if the coolers from each company perform the same as the pascal versions, they were the quietest of the bunch and that’s what I prefer. Will probably sit this gen out though if the Ti is indeed closer to $1000 instead of $700.
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1gnoirents posted:Just pocketed 2 grand worth of pascal sales in the last hour just in time, sorry if its been said but has there been a leak on what specific time anything might be available for purchase? The rumor is 2080 and 2080 Ti by September, 2070 and 2060 in October/November. Who knows what the stock situation will be though.
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Green Gloves posted:Should I buy a used 1080 TI I found on Craigslist for $400 or should I wait for the RTX 2070. Currently rocking the 980 TI and am still pretty happy about it though I have a 4k tv now and it would be great to play some titles at 4k. Is it EVGA, Gigabyte, or MSI? Those have transferable warranties and will probably have 1.5-2+ years of warranty left (get a receipt if it's EVGA, though). Just guessing here, but I can't imagine the 1080 ti resale prices going below $300 until well after launch, so you could just consider it a $100 cost (or maybe none) to play 4K now instead of in a couple of months (assuming you can actually get your hands on one). E: Don't forget that you can probably still get $200-300 for your 980 ti, too!
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How does EVGA's step-up work? I'm in the middle of building a new PC and don't want to be stuck on a 780 for a month at least
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Stickman posted:Is it EVGA, Gigabyte, or MSI? Those have transferable warranties and will probably have 1.5-2+ years of warranty left (get a receipt if it's EVGA, though). Just guessing here, but I can't imagine the 1080 ti resale prices going below $300 until well after launch, so you could just consider it a $100 cost (or maybe none) to play 4K now instead of in a couple of months (assuming you can actually get your hands on one). Its an EVGA 1080TI still in shrink wrap. Yeah I am thinking $300 would be a no brainer. Also right now the 980 ti could very well drop in value by $100 after launch of the new series. Its probably best value right now.
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Green Gloves posted:Its an EVGA 1080TI still in shrink wrap. Yeah I am thinking $300 would be a no brainer. Yeah but are you willing to be weeks without a card? I have 2 980ti's that I'm holding on to until there's a 2080ti in my hands.
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