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jamal
Apr 15, 2003

I'll set the building on fire

STR posted:

Lots of cars do.

Yeah but the evo x clutch MC seem to blow up a lot. And are a hassle to replace. And now I'm remembering doing it a few times. loving evos. Only cars that I consistently wind up with cuts on my hands when I work on them.

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Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



jamal posted:

Yeah but the evo x clutch MC seem to blow up a lot. And are a hassle to replace. And now I'm remembering doing it a few times. loving evos. Only cars that I consistently wind up with cuts on my hands when I work on them.

Better than ending up with cuts on your wrists!

BloodBag
Sep 20, 2008

WITNESS ME!



Yet another reason the miata was peak automobile. Cast iron clutch MC for $12 from Exedy :smug:

Clutch slave for $6 :smuggo:

Beach Bum
Jan 13, 2010

BloodBag posted:

Clutch slave for $6 :smuggo:

Yeah they were cheap because they made millions of the drat things so that we could all keep up with the 20,000 mile replacement schedule.

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

A clutch job on a Miata is also ridiculously easy (aka cheap to have someone else do) so who gives a gently caress.

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

me @ ur posts


Fun Shoe

InitialDave posted:

AND PULL YOUR KNEES IN TIIIIIIIGHT

Then it's the bang and blow
That really drives you ins-a-a-ane!
Let's do the Otto again!

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


Beach Bum posted:

Yeah they were cheap because they made millions of the drat things so that we could all keep up with the 20,000 mile replacement schedule.

Also because the recycled a lot of parts from the RX-7 and every other Mazda extant at the time.

The Door Frame
Dec 5, 2011

I don't know man everytime I go to the gym here there are like two huge dudes with raging high and tights snorting Nitro-tech off of each other's rock hard abs.

Darchangel posted:

Also because the recycled a lot of parts from the RX-7 and every other Mazda extant at the time.

I was wondering why my Capri's master and slave together cost about as much as the brake fluid I bought to refill the system

Beach Bum
Jan 13, 2010

evil_bunnY posted:

A clutch job on a Miata is also ridiculously easy (aka cheap to have someone else do) so who gives a gently caress.

Clutch slave, you mean? Dropping the trans on a Miata is a goddamn pain in the rear end with the PPF bolts that are inevitably seized right to poo poo.

BloodBag
Sep 20, 2008

WITNESS ME!



Beach Bum posted:

Clutch slave, you mean? Dropping the trans on a Miata is a goddamn pain in the rear end with the PPF bolts that are inevitably seized right to poo poo.

I wasn't gonna say anything and see how far into his mouth he could fit his foot. If the two options for doing a clutch on a Miata are 'horrible PPF bolts' or 'pull engine & trans', I highly doubt it's that easy. I'm now reminded that mine needs replacing :negative:

autism ZX spectrum
Feb 8, 2007

by Lowtax
Fun Shoe
The first time is the worst because 2 of 4 ignition coil bolts require either alien hands or a series of sockets and even then you only get a few mm of movement. Pulling the engine and trans out at the same time isn't crazy hard, a little time consuming for sure though. The key is taking those two bolts and throwing them right in the loving garbage so next time you don't spend 40 minutes undoing two loving bolts.

jammyozzy
Dec 7, 2006
<img src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-jammyozzy.gif"><br>Is that a challenge?

autism ZX spectrum posted:

The first time is the worst because 2 of 4 ignition coil bolts require either alien hands or a series of sockets and even then you only get a few mm of movement. Pulling the engine and trans out at the same time isn't crazy hard, a little time consuming for sure though. The key is taking those two bolts and throwing them right in the loving garbage so next time you don't spend 40 minutes undoing two loving bolts.

Oh my god, this has just brought back a memory I have of feeling around for those loving bolts and not realising a PO had already binned them off.

I was too stupid to just remove the bolts I could see and see if it would come off. I'm not smart sometimes. :downs:

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

autism ZX spectrum posted:

The first time is the worst because 2 of 4 ignition coil bolts require either alien hands or a series of sockets and even then you only get a few mm of movement. Pulling the engine and trans out at the same time isn't crazy hard, a little time consuming for sure though. The key is taking those two bolts and throwing them right in the loving garbage so next time you don't spend 40 minutes undoing two loving bolts.
This must have been what he did the first time because we had no trouble at all with any of the fasteners.

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Heh. Reminds me of doing a timing belt change on my SHO. Granted it was 20 years ago and using who knows what tools...but it must have been bad because everyone bitched about it.
Just removing the bottom bolt of the battery tray was like some half hour ordeal. You had about .5mm arc to swing the wrench.

Then after that you ground out a notch so it could slid onto the bolt and it would take 10 seconds the next time you did it.

The Door Frame
Dec 5, 2011

I don't know man everytime I go to the gym here there are like two huge dudes with raging high and tights snorting Nitro-tech off of each other's rock hard abs.

BloodBag posted:

I wasn't gonna say anything and see how far into his mouth he could fit his foot. If the two options for doing a clutch on a Miata are 'horrible PPF bolts' or 'pull engine & trans', I highly doubt it's that easy. I'm now reminded that mine needs replacing :negative:

Oh no, I'm going to be doing a clutch on the Miata's ugly sister, I really hope that it's easier...

BloodBag
Sep 20, 2008

WITNESS ME!



The Door Frame posted:

Oh no, I'm going to be doing a clutch on the Miata's ugly sister, I really hope that it's easier...

Someone needs to replace a Fiata clutch already? :v:

glyph
Apr 6, 2006




:emptyquote:

Beach Bum
Jan 13, 2010
Speaking of Miatas, we had another ND eat a transmission at AutoX yesterday. I wish I could have recorded the noises it made as I was helping push it off the course, sounded pretty fuckin' gnarly. Another friend of mine is on his third ND transmission, but apparently "This is the fixed one this time we swear".

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are

jamal posted:

Yeah but the evo x clutch MC seem to blow up a lot. And are a hassle to replace. And now I'm remembering doing it a few times. loving evos. Only cars that I consistently wind up with cuts on my hands when I work on them.

There's a Walgreens right next to the Autozone in my old neighborhood. I feel like this is some solid corporate symbiosis, especially after I shredded my hand last Friday trying to dig the broken turn signal lamp out of my busted headlight so I could use my turn signal on the commute home...

chrisgt
Sep 6, 2011

:getin:

Dirt Road Junglist posted:

There's a Walgreens right next to the Autozone in my old neighborhood. I feel like this is some solid corporate symbiosis, especially after I shredded my hand last Friday trying to dig the broken turn signal lamp out of my busted headlight so I could use my turn signal on the commute home...

Where I used to live there was a Harbor Freight and a Christmas Tree shop in the same complex. The doors were 30 feet apart. If that isn't hard core genius I don't know what is.

The Door Frame
Dec 5, 2011

I don't know man everytime I go to the gym here there are like two huge dudes with raging high and tights snorting Nitro-tech off of each other's rock hard abs.

BloodBag posted:

Someone needs to replace a Fiata clutch already? :v:

I thought we were talking about NA Miata's, thank god

ssb
Feb 16, 2006

WOULD YOU ACCOMPANY ME ON A BRISK WALK? I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK WITH YOU!!


My first car was a 1988 Ford Escort GL. About 2 weeks after I bought it, the linkage snapped and I lost 2nd and 4th and mostly Reverse although I could sometimes fiddle it. I spent a month just working around those two gears. It took me a while to get back in the habit of using them after I finally had money to fix it.

Shortly after that it blew a brake pad when stopping for a crossing divided highway. Went crazy with downshifting and pumped the brakes and they came back just enough that I was able to stop and not get t-boned hard. That I borrowed money from my parents to fix. E-brake had been long disconnected by that time and wasn't ever going to be fixed.

Several cars later I had a 1994 Geo Prizm that I loved, that thing was great. The starter went out on it when I was broke so I just parked on inclines and pop-started it for 3 months, occasionally getting a push from someone here and there. The clutch was shot when I bought it so you had to be careful giving it gas in 3rd or higher because it would just start slipping. I still miss that car.

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


....why?

R-Type
Oct 10, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

shortspecialbus
Feb 16, 2006

tactlessbastard
Feb 4, 2001

Godspeed, post
Fun Shoe

Probably the same reason I miss the 1983 Le Car I started off in (in 1996); because uh,.....

Boaz MacPhereson
Jul 11, 2006

Day 12045 Ht10hands 180lbs
No Name
No lumps No Bumps Full life Clean
Two good eyes No Busted Limbs
Piss OK Genitals intact
Multiple scars Heals fast
O NEGATIVE HI OCTANE
UNIVERSAL DONOR
Lone Road Warrior Rundown
on the Powder Lakes V8
No guzzoline No supplies
ISOLATE PSYCHOTIC
Keep muzzled...
You never forget your first :allears:

Hence my current project...

fakeaccount
Jun 22, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

He just described why. I've had cars similar to that, which I loved because they didn't require a trip to the dealership and a 2nd mortgage to repair. Simpler machines are better machines. Newer cars are worse cars.

Beach Bum
Jan 13, 2010
The Prizm is just a GM Corolla, with that venerable 4A motor. They really weren't terrible cars, they just weren't Hondas.

Beach Bum fucked around with this message at 17:52 on Aug 21, 2018

Siochain
May 24, 2005

"can they get rid of any humans who are fans of shitheads like Kanye West, 50 Cent, or any other piece of crap "artist" who thinks they're all that?

And also get rid of anyone who has posted retarded shit on the internet."


shortspecialbus posted:

Several cars later I had a 1994 Geo Prizm that I loved, that thing was great. The starter went out on it when I was broke so I just parked on inclines and pop-started it for 3 months, occasionally getting a push from someone here and there. The clutch was shot when I bought it so you had to be careful giving it gas in 3rd or higher because it would just start slipping. I still miss that car.

Had a 94 Geo Tracker. I still miss it. It was a loud, lovely, gutless, cold-in-winter-hot-in-summer loving crapbox. But goddamn it just worked. Every day. Started, ran, and got me from A to B every day. Cheap to fix, cheap to keep.
I regret the gently caress out of getting rid of it.

The Door Frame
Dec 5, 2011

I don't know man everytime I go to the gym here there are like two huge dudes with raging high and tights snorting Nitro-tech off of each other's rock hard abs.

Siochain posted:

Had a 94 Geo Tracker. I still miss it. It was a loud, lovely, gutless, cold-in-winter-hot-in-summer loving crapbox. But goddamn it just worked. Every day. Started, ran, and got me from A to B every day. Cheap to fix, cheap to keep.
I regret the gently caress out of getting rid of it.

Those things fetch a pretty penny these days. I've been eyeing one for a while because I apparently can't fathom owning a car with more horsepower than a lawnmower
That or the 3cyl Metro Lsi Convertible. Give me every terrible 70-95 Suzuki

BloodBag
Sep 20, 2008

WITNESS ME!



I just saw the first metro I've seen in a while on the freeway yesterday. Didn't most of those go to the scrapper for burning their valves up?

E: just imagine gen z kids in 25 years going misty eyed over the thought of their first chevy aveo.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Someday the pointy spiky crap that Toyota and Honda are shoveling out right now is going to be considered vintage and highly sought after.

chrisgt
Sep 6, 2011

:getin:

BloodBag posted:

I just saw the first metro I've seen in a while on the freeway yesterday. Didn't most of those go to the scrapper for burning their valves up?

E: just imagine gen z kids in 25 years going misty eyed over the thought of their first chevy aveo.

Sadly not. My sister has one and it's a loving nightmare of rusted stuff. I can't wait until next year when I refuse to get it through inspection again. I really want the engine out of it for reasons...

BloodBag
Sep 20, 2008

WITNESS ME!



chrisgt posted:

Sadly not. My sister has one and it's a loving nightmare of rusted stuff. I can't wait until next year when I refuse to get it through inspection again. I really want the engine out of it for reasons...

I guess something has to power Vietnamese longtail boats.

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

BloodBag posted:

I just saw the first metro I've seen in a while on the freeway yesterday. Didn't most of those go to the scrapper for burning their valves up?

E: just imagine gen z kids in 25 years going misty eyed over the thought of their first chevy aveo.

Metro wasn't half-bad for what it was. I was surprised the little 3 banger had enough torque to take off in 3rd without much issue.

Now god help you if you get in an accident with that tin can...

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Wasn't the Geo Tracker #1 for rollovers or something?

DJ Commie
Feb 29, 2004

Stupid drivers always breaking car, Gronk fix car...

Cojawfee posted:

Wasn't the Geo Tracker #1 for rollovers or something?

That was the Samurai on an admittedly rigged test. You could overturn just about anything with the Moose Test done purposely wrong.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.
Yeah. "People driving vehicles inappropriately have crashes more" is hardly a newsworthy headline though.

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!

BloodBag posted:

I just saw the first metro I've seen in a while on the freeway yesterday. Didn't most of those go to the scrapper for burning their valves up?


I had a 94 Metro with that problem. At 191k miles, it got so bad that the air filter had burn marks on the bottom :lol:

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Dagen H
Mar 19, 2009

Hogertrafikomlaggningen
Replacing the valves is easy. Replacing the front LCA mounts, however, is a different story.

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