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Rustybear posted:It's an archetypal 'young fogey'; the Stuart fetish is a catholic thing, likely wears lots of tweed and tells people he's from a recusant family. I grew up catholic (atheist now). I had a Sunday school teacher who once confided in me that he wished the Spanish Armada would have taken back England for Rome. That poo poo isn't as weird as wishing that true monarchism were still a thing though.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:"So are you a Protestant atheist or a Catholic atheist?" Having never heard that quote before, my first instinct would be it comes from Monty Python
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Taintrunner posted:Being a monarchist at this point is far more entertaining than anything else. literally can't wait for the queen to step in and execute everyone related to the whole brexit mess
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Preston Waters posted:Having never heard that quote before, my first instinct would be it comes from Monty Python It does sound like that, but no, came up from somewhere on the internet. (the setup is someone in Ireland being asked if they're Catholic or Protestant, replying that they're an atheist, and then, well, the above) The funny thing is I bet there's noticeable differences.
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General China posted:I could also point out that the organic food movement draws many parallels to fascism too and many founding members of the Soil Association were out and out fascists. Well I strongly believe in trade unions so I'm going to call my political party the Union Movement, and if any Jewish people get nervous it's their own fault for being so sensitive.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:It does sound like that, but no, came up from somewhere on the internet. (the setup is someone in Ireland being asked if they're Catholic or Protestant, replying that they're an atheist, and then, well, the above) It's a real thing. My sister went to uni in Belfast and got that after replying she's a jew
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Catholic and Protestant are socioethnic labels in NI, not religious ones. Even Gerry Adams has said he's closer to Protestantism in terms of his actual religious beliefs, but he is obviously still very much a "Catholic".
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Ghost Leviathan posted:It does sound like that, but no, came up from somewhere on the internet. (the setup is someone in Ireland being asked if they're Catholic or Protestant, replying that they're an atheist, and then, well, the above) Christopher Hitchens used it a lot when talking about his time reporting on the Troubles, that's probably where the internet latched onto it from.
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Yeah I was asked that in Glasgow before by a Rangers fan co-worker. The guy asked me first what school I went to, but since I’m not Glaswegian he didn’t know if my school was Catholic or not. So he had to be blunt and straight up ask me which team I was. Since my atheist parents both come from Protestant backgrounds that made me ok in this guys eyes. He also shared with me his theory that young Muslim men are being ordered by their parents to impregnate as many white girls as possible.
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Bryter posted:Catholic and Protestant are socioethnic labels in NI, not religious ones. Even Gerry Adams has said he's closer to Protestantism in terms of his actual religious beliefs, but he is obviously still very much a "Catholic". Catholic maps to 'irish', protestant maps to 'ulster-scots'; church attendance was simply one of the most visible divides between the communities so it became an obvious sectarian token. If the only thing you had to do to join the shipbuilders union was modify your religious beliefs somewhat then the troubles would never have occurred. Like all posts about Northern Ireland this is an oversimplification but it broadly fits.
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marktheando posted:He also shared with me his theory that young Muslim men are being ordered by their parents to impregnate as many white girls as possible. "By Allah we must dilute our own genes, in order to white genocide. We have thought this plan out."
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:hes a dumb nerd looking for something to make him seem interesting
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That guy believes James the II was the last legitimate king? So he’s crypto-Catholic or what?
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twoday posted:That guy believes James the II was the last legitimate king? So he’s crypto-Catholic or what? A Jacobite! A political movement which hasn't been remotely realistic since like 1759.
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twoday posted:That guy believes James the II was the last legitimate king? So he’s crypto-Catholic or what? He likely thinks the glorious revolution was the beginning of the end; he's the reactionary's reactionary. If you hang out with a load of people who think England circa 1790 was the last great era we should hark back to you have to work extra hard to stand out.
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Archaeology Hat posted:A Jacobite! A political movement which hasn't been remotely realistic since like 1759. it did, however, give us some cracking tunes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlyCSlAYECA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTPyvKrU1DM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pB9fb3lIXko
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So, the Graun seems to think there really is going to be a blairite split. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/aug/20/prospect-new-uk-party-grows-westminster-political-cracks-brexit Really wish they'd put up or shut up.
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Crowsbeak posted:So, the Graun seems to think there really is going to be a blairite split. Dammit, "chicken coup" only works in print, and barely then. I do not approve. 
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I mean the people we want to deselect threatening to quit and start their own party is not much of a threat. The SDP worked because they took big, popular names. Who out there is desperate to vote for a new party founded Chuka and Chris Leslie? I think Chuka would get more votes if he didn't have Leslie with him, the guys a huge loving tool.
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Aug 21, 2018 07:54
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They're so intellectually bankrupt Chris Leslie's report into centrism was dire
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Liberal centrists always, always massively overestimate their appeal, especially nowadays.
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i think i'd have slightly less disdain for them if they could at least admit austerity was a mistake and that it should be abandoned but they can't even do that failing to understand why everyone hates them as a result
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"We made the tough but necessary decisions that we had to! Now excuse me I'm off to the Lord Mayors banquet to celebrate and toast the UKs one hundredth billionaire AND the ten thousandth millionaire."
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no deal brexit is fine an idiot says https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1031795833572876288
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In the course of events i had to cite a 13 year old article the guardian put out and fuckin lmao at the associated pieces Truly 2005 was a more innocent time. A time before we knew.
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Hey so in one poll taken Labour while still ahead of the Tories fell one point. So, get ready for six more months of the Labour Antisemitism problem.
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so in the Trump thread we usually yell a misspelling of "Trump!" (eg, "TORMP!") and post a gif or video of someone loving up at something kinda like  what would be a good thing to yell for the UK thread? like BORIS could be BROIS or something but it just ain't the same plus he isn't in government anymore anyway enjoy this montage of ur terrible drivers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVx4Op2tAUo
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Rustybear posted:It's an archetypal 'young fogey'; the Stuart fetish is a catholic thing, likely wears lots of tweed and tells people he's from a recusant family. I once saw somebody say that Trump was descended from a Stuart/Stewart branch.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Isn't every US President besides Van Buren a direct descendent of King John? So am I, really all you need to be that is have ancestry that came from England pre American Revolution.
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Good news everyone, the Brexit supporters will die sooner then thought. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/brexit-freedom-of-movement-plan-care-workers-uk-eu-shortage-a8501751.html
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Crowsbeak posted:Hey so in one poll taken Labour while still ahead of the Tories fell one point. So, get ready for six more months of the Labour Antisemitism problem. It's literally never going to go away ever.
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Crowsbeak posted:Good news everyone, the Brexit supporters will die sooner then thought. What a way to learn Robbie Rotten's dead 
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Crowsbeak posted:So am I, really all you need to be that is have ancestry that came from England pre American Revolution. People always forget that ancestry is an exponential sequence; go back 10 generations and you have 1024 ancestors. Go back 25 generations and you have 33 million. Factor in how small the global human population was and the general homogeneity of ethnic groups (by comparison to today at least) and there's a good chance you're connected somehow to any random historical figure from your cultural background.
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also related to anyone you've ever dated hurhur
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Rustybear posted:People always forget that ancestry is an exponential sequence; go back 10 generations and you have 30 ancestors. Go back 25 generations and you have 238. fixed for essex
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Until Labour has a leader that unconditionally supports Israel. Even then it won't. There'll be constant threats and allusions about the 'the dark old days'. The best way to understand the campaign is as bullying. There's no point giving in to it at all and honestly I think Labour has been far too supine generally,
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