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Peanut President posted:TF2 had abysmal esports views because watching an FPS in first person is really difficult. Not shocking that TF2's TF2 is silly and dumb and I like it that way and so does everyone else that plays it.
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Robnoxious posted:I am glad TF2 escaped the ire of network broadcasting. My Earned Bonks Average SABRmetrics though 
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AsInHowe posted:I could not tell you what Overwatch is. And I'm 30. eSports feels like one of those tech things that isn't really able to connect in the mainstream, but it's new and getting promoted, so it gets a lot of money disproportionately tossed its way. It actually sounds like you're 60 years old
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Aug 21, 2018 15:09
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AsInHowe posted:Why would I want to watch people play a video game when I could just play it? This argument gets made against regular sports too, but I agree with you. The dividing line, to me, is the barriers to playing myself. I don't have access to a whole football team and thousands worth of equipment. There's no one willing to lend me an F1 car to have a go at Monaco. So I watch those things. I don't watch people do things I can do myself, even if they're better at it than I am. If I wanted to stare at Twitch and watch someone hitting some raid boss in WoW, I'd just go unretire and have some active role in a game.
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Overwatch suffers because its really hard to commentate and watch a 6v6 game where every player can be making an immediate impact at any one time. In soccer or football or baseball it doesn't really matter what is going on away from the ball because the ball is 95% of the action. Pitcher and hitter, quarterback or running back, whatever player has the ball in soccer. OW or Fortnite you've got 12 or 100 players that could all seemingly have a huge impact on the game at a moment's notice and its so easy to miss stuff and need to go to a replay. Even with omniscient camera angles that exist for both games for broadcaster mode it can then be tough to tell the skill involved with a given play without seeing it from the player's perspective. Starcraft was very entertaining in 1v1 games because its much easier to switch back and forth between views, the broadcaster has information that the players do not, and for the most part the broadcaster is good enough to know the strategy that a player is forming or reacting to and can explain it to the audience as necessary. When it comes to twitch, it can be fun to act like a crowd watch a sporting event together. You can't really chat, you're more reacting with emotes or whatever. Just like you can't really interact with a player from the stands but when the whole crowd yells they know it.
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Aug 21, 2018 15:41
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Yeah I always thought StarCraft was the easiest of any of these games to follow for someone that doesn't play but even then...
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Even as someone that like to watch people play video games from time to time, most esports game are hard to follow and not viewer friendly to the mainstream audience. I think that fighting games are probably the one of the fews that can work for the mainstream audience. Look at the EVO final this year for Dragon Ball Fighterz. There was a lot of drama, controversy, and talking points for it. I think that there is a really big audience for esports. I just don't think any network will be the outlet for it. As it is usually offered for viewing for free on Twitch and if I was a follower of the esport, why would I pay for cable or subscription service when I can watch the tournament/competition for free on Twitch.
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overwatch is very fun to watch and i had a good time at the finals for 30 bucks (louder than any Islanders game at the barclays center lol) but i have no idea why anyone who didn't play the game fairly regularly would watch it. but it's fun for those into that sort of thing. not sure why ESPN is into it when Blizzard has stated they're really just trying to target people who play the game first, and there's probably not a big venn diagram between those folks and "ESPN watchers"
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ESPN seems like they're just trying to target niche stuff for their streaming thing. So maybe not that many people broadly speaking are into it, but the people who do care care enough to pay $5 a month or whatever to watch it, is the theory. I don't know if this actually works with esports when it's so easy to watch for free on twitch or whatever, but I imagine it's pretty cheap for them to air anyway
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I think counter strike works as a FPS Esport simply because pace of play is slower and it’s round based. I mean, if you’ve never played it it will absolutely be incomprehensible. But otherwise I still on occasion when bored will throw on a competitive match and watch for 30 minutes while I eat dinner.
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soggybagel posted:I think counter strike works as a FPS Esport simply because pace of play is slower and it’s round based. I mean, if you’ve never played it it will absolutely be incomprehensible. But otherwise I still on occasion when bored will throw on a competitive match and watch for 30 minutes while I eat dinner. A lot more of older millennial, namely the people in the upper end of the 24-35 demo, are likely to be more familiar with CS than OW. However, the lower end will likely be more familiar with OW. I think MOBAs are better suited for it, because they are slower paced, buuuuuuut games can last "forever" compared to OW.
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I’m not saying younger people are more familiar. Just that it’s slower style than overwatch makes it a bit easier to track and less incoherent when broadcasts bounce between players. That said any one on one RTS type game definitely benefits.
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MourningView posted:ESPN seems like they're just trying to target niche stuff for their streaming thing. So maybe not that many people broadly speaking are into it, but the people who do care care enough to pay $5 a month or whatever to watch it, is the theory. I don't know if this actually works with esports when it's so easy to watch for free on twitch or whatever, but I imagine it's pretty cheap for them to air anyway This was on ABC.
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Aug 22, 2018 16:42
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Edward Mass posted:This was on ABC. ABC runs X-Games or whatever they have laying around in the early afternoon. It was a low-risk slot for them.
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Aug 22, 2018 16:44
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OK google, show me an absolute sure-fire way to kill any hype surrounding a video game https://twitter.com/awfulannouncing/status/1032785811442348032
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Aug 24, 2018 01:37
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Bill Simmons is a doofus but he's super popular Also not even close to the worst part of that group
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Which game literally had "Darren Rovell tweets at you" as a feature, 2k? Madden?
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I am annoyed just thinking about Kobe's awful, humorless, self mythologizing commentary. Also he is a rapist
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Aug 24, 2018 02:08
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Sports video games explicitly avoid referencing movies and other pop culture by name (e.g. "The Raptors were named because of a popular movie that was out at the time") so what could Bill even say?
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Aug 24, 2018 06:19
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... you guys play sports games with the announcers on?
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Surprised this hasnt made it out of the Indycar thread (also maybe NFL threads but I dont read those) https://deadspin.com/former-colts-announcer-who-used-n-word-was-quoting-auto-1828557737 https://racer.com/2018/08/23/daly-rejects-racial-slur-claims/ Theres a lot to process here but I'll try to sum it up 1) Bob Lamey, longtime Indianapolis Colts radio play-by-play announcer "retired" after he told a story that involved the n-word in front of a black colleague. 2) In the story he told, 35 years ago, when he was working for Indianapolis Motor Speedway, he was interviewing a racing analyst on the radio. When Lamey asked him if racers were holding back their speed during qualifications, the analyst said “There aren’t any n****** in this race.” [editors note: I still dont know what the gently caress thats even supposed to mean.] 3) Lamey has now publicly claimed the analyst is Derek Daly. Daly is an Irish former Formula 1, CART (Indycar) and sports car driver. He moved to the Indianapolis area in the 1980s. His son Conor is currently a driver in Indycar. 4) Daly was then immediately fired by his longtime employer, Indianapolis tv station WISH-TV. 5) Daly then released this statement: quote:“Last night WISH-TV severed ties with me after former sports broadcaster Bob Lamey apparently inaccurately attributed a racial slur to me during an interview in the early ’80s,” he said in the statement. 6) and the cherry on top of this bizzare story is Willy T. Ribbs, a black race car driver in the 80s and 90s has publicly defended Daly with this amazing story (emphasis mine): quote:“Derek Daly was the first driver to befriend me in an environment I knew little about,” Ribbs said, recalling his arrival in England to race in Formula Ford in 1977.
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Anyone buying the Francesa App? lol https://twitter.com/mikeson/status/1032712192469159936
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Aug 24, 2018 14:56
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lmao $9 a month
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DJExile posted:lmao $9 a month I have no idea who the hell is going to buy this. The best part is that you can watch a live stream of him doing his show on your iPhone lol. You get you see him scrolling through Twitter and drinking a DC while interviewing Sweeney Murti...
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DJExile posted:lmao $9 a month or save money and pay $99 a year also https://twitter.com/awfulannouncing/status/1032808460608405504 e: and ryen russillo is getting plenty of work https://twitter.com/ryenarussillo/status/1033001123123085312 Vertical Lime fucked around with this message at 16:06 on Aug 24, 2018 |
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Vertical Lime posted:or save money and pay $99 a year a bold move, let's see how that plays out for them
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Vertical Lime posted:
someone explain Ryan Russilo to me
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I'm fine with Fox getting them back, I at least know what I"m getting from them.
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For those of you concerned that you'd miss the Indiana and Ball State battle it out in a few weeks. https://twitter.com/Ourand_SBJ/status/1033111815490871296
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now this is a news dump https://twitter.com/richarddeitsch/status/1033131873117949952 https://twitter.com/richarddeitsch/status/1033134298767847424
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i think we all saw this coming https://twitter.com/richarddeitsch/status/1033518556640555009
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So after a shooting during a madden tournament that got broadcast on twitch live, so you think this will help or hurt broadcasting of esports which are primarily made up of these dudes who keep loving shooting people? (Or crashing their car into them)
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yea ok posted:what? Some guy went on a shooting spree during a madden tournament that was streaming. Apparently you get to see the moment right before someone dies. Like the stream cuts out the second before he is shot.
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Aug 27, 2018 01:53
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I think he means the part about esports being primarily dudes who shoot people
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Dutchy posted:I think he means the part about esports being primarily dudes who shoot people Oh yeah I glossed over that. That’s a weird take
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Dutchy posted:I think he means the part about esports being primarily dudes who shoot people It was a bad joke about esports being a lot of young white dudes not getting laid, which lately is the archetype. By lately I mean since like the 1860s.
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CharlestheHammer posted:Oh yeah I glossed over that. That’s a weird take Yeah these are the dudes that swat people and get the cops to shoot them
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iwentdoodie posted:So after a shooting during a madden tournament that got broadcast on twitch live, so you think this will help or hurt broadcasting of esports which are primarily made up of these dudes who keep loving shooting people? (Or crashing their car into them) americans suck at esports dude
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