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quote:I think I might be trans. This is a problem because it took until now for me to put all the pieces together and figure out, after I'm married and stable, and now I don't really know what to do. I probably will not do anything about it because I do not want to gently caress my life and my spouse's life up but wanted to tell someone and get it off my chest because I've been thinking about it pretty much nonstop for a few days now and don't really have an outlet or anyone that I'd be comfortable just telling this to. So congratulations, anonymous goons, you get this one. I'm tempted to say "see thread title" here but that seems mean quote:I keep tabs on many posters on SA. Not in a malicious way, but more a combination of morbid curiosity + if someone started messing with you, you wouldn't want to have to walk to the gun store ya know what I mean? A food blogger my wife used to get recipes from just kinda fell off the face of the earth one day and she was legitimately unironically concerned for her, I don't think anything ever came of that At any rate maybe something bad DID happen to them, or maybe they're just trying to detox from the Internet for a while and didn't wanna make a big dramatic "I'M LEAVING" speech on every social network. Either way, so it goes. Gotta let go and try to move on. Btw thanks for the midfesh flattery, much appreciated 
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Hey potentially trans goon, there's options that aren't going all the way. I used to have links to the LGBT community, and back then I knew a bunch of people who crossed the gender line but only at the gay bar on the weekend. They'd specifically come here from real far away because where I live is a bit of a dive that no one comes to or cares about. It was their way of not getting caught. A few of them dressed up behind all their family's backs, which was a bit naughty of them I suppose. Others had partners who knew and were fine with them having this "hobby" so to speak. If you're worried about doing that kind of thing because you might like it and end up snookering yourself into going "full time": in some cases that happened and in others they were just happy to only do it when their group met up. All I wanted to say was that in terms of what you do (rather than who you are) it isn't like you have to either suck it up all the time or go the other way entirely and start talking to doctors about oestrogen. There's a middle ground where you just maybe try on a dress at some point and see how it feels. I'm not saying you should go for that. What you do is 100% up to you. I just wanted to make sure you were aware of what we used to call "part time" trans people. Azza Bamboo fucked around with this message at 18:26 on Aug 20, 2018 |
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I think potential trans goon should tell their spouse how they feel. Even if you don't DO anything about being trans, you at least have someone you love and trust to confide in.
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Yeah the answer is not to be "a bit naughty" by living a secret life and going to bars alone
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Riptor posted:Yeah the answer is not to be "a bit naughty" by living a secret life and going to bars alone Yeah what the gently caress was that lol
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Yeah I don't really think anyone that drives out to bars that are hours away from their spouse specifically to crossdress without their spouse finding out is doing it without infidelity on their mind, and if you're willing to cheat it's probably worth a try to, y'know, tell your spouse what's going on first
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Stalker goon, is the poster in question El Hefe? Cause Venezuela aint doing so hot at the moment. RIP
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I get that the spouse is probably thinking infidelity but when I saw these people they weren't hooking up for sex. They were usually sat down talking to each other about their lives, current affairs, the usual nonsense but with a dress on. I wouldn't advocate going behind someone's back but I get why people did. How to say there was an explanation for what they did but it's not an excuse. It wasn't infidelity, it was usually fear combined with the absolute need to escape their masculinity. I can't completely understand because I'm not trans myself, but from talking to these ladies I got the impression that this was something that ate them up inside if they couldn't do it. Well okay there was one or two who were doing it for fetishistic reasons but mentioning them risks missing the point. Azza Bamboo fucked around with this message at 00:54 on Aug 21, 2018 |
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The last time I was that concerned about a poster going dark, he was found dead a few days later. Turns out the depression meds he was prescribed didn't play nice together. What was worse is the news came on 1st April and he always dumb/funny pranks for April Fools, so it was a tough one to believe at first.
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Riptor posted:Yeah the answer is not to be "a bit naughty" by living a secret life and going to bars alone I dunno, it sounds fun. Like being Batman.
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loquacius posted:why do so many of these guys steal people's poo poo pedipedo epheetophilia Splicer fucked around with this message at 11:11 on Aug 21, 2018 |
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I'm just imagining that stealing an unemptied pedegg would be like finding a bag of primo coke to these footweirds.
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SciFiDownBeat posted:it would be nice to be able to "test drive" being the other gender before you think you ought to fully commit Are there people who fully commit and then change their minds and get reversal surgery and hormones and stuff? I know there exists vasectomy reversal, another procedure you'd think took a real commitment.
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SKIPPING: rape confession which is almost definitely a trollquote:I've never been much into threesomes as I always found them boring but this weekend I (around 30yo) had sex with a couple (a 38yo lady and her 27yo girlfriend). I had Dani California in my mind so we put on to play it. I hadn't done ecstasy in a long while but we did it and danced a lot before going to town. That felt good. The older lady was very classy and just enjoyed sitting and watching the two of us high shaking around. I hadn't had this much fun, we played together until about 5 am and I got a message back from them. I don't want anything serious with them but just the prospect of having fun is refreshing. Good for you, sounds like it was a positive experience! that said: "I've never been much into threesomes as I always found them boring" lol that part's gonna get some attention quote:I've got a pathetic crush on my kid's kindergarten teacher. I'm sitting there in the minivan at the drop off popping wood like a goddamn 14 year old. If you're single, wait until the school year's over and try your luck
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A Strange Aeon posted:Are there people who fully commit and then change their minds and get reversal surgery and hormones and stuff? Yep. It's called detransition and happens -- I know two people who did it. Basically everything except genital surgery and (for trans men) voice changes can be more or less walked back in one way or another.
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A Strange Aeon posted:Are there people who fully commit and then change their minds and get reversal surgery and hormones and stuff? I'm here because my mom had one of her tubes reconstructed. It's crazy what they can do.
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A person in another department at my company transitioned to female and is now in the process of detransitioning. Its a drat shame, she was pretty hot 
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If you spend literally any time in the trans community you’ll meet a half dozen people who say some version of “I thought transitioning would “fix” me and then it didn’t and I was still depressed/dysphoric and now my body was freaking the hell out.”
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It's not so common here in the UK, but everything here is controlled by the NHS who impose regimented "healthcare pathways" on their service providers. From what I heard in discussion (this was years ago now) apparently trans people here have to be presenting in their gender all the time in all areas of their life for two years before the NHS service providers will even consider hormones. At some point they have to get signed off as sane by a psychiatrist, and they have to provide evidence from family members and their employers that they've been living all the time in their gender over these two years. They'll take in all kinds of evidence like getting your name changed by deed poll before making the decision to actually do anything medical. Most of what I heard in this regard was bitching about how much of a pain in the rear end all this was, and some concerns like someone was balding and didn't want to have to wait 2 years for drugs. I don't know which system is better but I thought it'd be interesting to throw into the discussion.
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Azza Bamboo posted:It's not so common here in the UK, but everything here is controlled by the NHS who impose regimented "healthcare pathways" on their service providers. From what I heard in discussion (this was years ago now) apparently trans people here have to be presenting in their gender all the time in all areas of their life for two years before the NHS service providers will even consider hormones. At some point they have to get signed off as sane by a psychiatrist, and they have to provide evidence from family members and their employers that they've been living all the time in their gender over these two years. They'll take in all kinds of evidence like getting your name changed by deed poll before making the decision to actually do anything medical. Most of what I heard in this regard was bitching about how much of a pain in the rear end all this was, and some concerns like someone was balding and didn't want to have to wait 2 years for drugs. I don't know which system is better but I thought it'd be interesting to throw into the discussion. I really have no idea which system is better but I’d like to think there could be some happy medium between that and “I feel like the gender I’m not currently” “Well ok here are some drugs good luck!”
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MarcusSA posted:I really have no idea which system is better but I’d like to think there could be some happy medium between that and “I feel like the gender I’m not currently” “Well ok here are some drugs good luck!” We have a population that not only is living much longer, but is also heavily skewed towards the elderly, which means declining tax receipts and increasing costs of funding a socialised healthcare system. Rightly or wrongly, the NHS will continue to reduce the amount of treatments it will cover simply because it doesn't have the means to fund them. It's less of an ideological problem and more of an economic one. When you go into just how loving absurdly catch-all the NHS is in the UK - even for a generation that has landfarmed the gently caress out of it's children and then expects to have their care home fees paid in part by the State rather than sell ~*~the family home~*~ which has appreciated by 300% since they bought it and the kids have long since moved out of - it's not the socialist utopian vision the Sanderistas would have you believe.
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What you're describing is still an ideological problem of not taxing rich people enough.Azza Bamboo posted:It's not so common here in the UK, but everything here is controlled by the NHS who impose regimented "healthcare pathways" on their service providers. From what I heard in discussion (this was years ago now) apparently trans people here have to be presenting in their gender all the time in all areas of their life for two years before the NHS service providers will even consider hormones. At some point they have to get signed off as sane by a psychiatrist, and they have to provide evidence from family members and their employers that they've been living all the time in their gender over these two years. They'll take in all kinds of evidence like getting your name changed by deed poll before making the decision to actually do anything medical. Most of what I heard in this regard was bitching about how much of a pain in the rear end all this was, and some concerns like someone was balding and didn't want to have to wait 2 years for drugs. I don't know which system is better but I thought it'd be interesting to throw into the discussion. Irony Be My Shield fucked around with this message at 12:57 on Aug 22, 2018 |
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Irony Be My Shield posted:What you're describing is still an ideological problem of not taxing rich people enough. This 'eat the rich' gimmick whereby everybody who earns exactly a dollar more than I do should be taxed more heavily is the laziest poo poo.
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I love when I try to explain how healthcare is completely affordable for everyone if the richest 1% in the country just paid their taxes legally instead of hiding their money in other countries and people just look at me like “no it’s that babies fault it has cancer and if their parents couldn’t afford chemo then they shouldn’t have had a kid!” and I have to double check that we’re, in fact, the same species.Theophany posted:This 'eat the rich' gimmick whereby everybody who earns exactly a dollar more than I do should be taxed more heavily is the laziest poo poo. Calling it a gimmick is the most sincere sign that you probably don’t understand what’s happening in America today.
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Theophany posted:~*~the family home~*~ In the UK if you are put into elderly care and you own a home and you can't pay the fees, the state will sell your home. If you have transferred ownership of your home to someone else in the seven years prior to this decision being made, this transfer will be revoked and the house sold. In other words your house is forfeit and you can't just say "uh, I gave this house to my son it's not mine now" when your health is failing. This creates a situation where families try to hide how ill their elders are, and encourage them to not get the care they need, in order to keep the house in the family. If you're in the UK this is something you need to know, because if you're a young person with hopes of getting some kind of inheritance this could take you by surprise. My advice is make your own fortune you greedy gently caress, or maybe even consider financing your parents' healthcare needs yourself. They took care of you for the start of your life why not pay it back? Azza Bamboo fucked around with this message at 13:49 on Aug 22, 2018 |
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Theophany posted:This 'eat the rich' gimmick whereby everybody who earns exactly a dollar more than I do should be taxed more heavily is the laziest poo poo. Do they give you a floor keyboard, or do you have to take a break from licking boots whenever you post?
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Basically what I'm saying is that the idea of the state paying your elderly care so that you can keep your family home is bullshit. They will sell your home and put you in a lovely state funded care home whether you wanted to or not.
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Azza Bamboo posted:In the UK if you are put into elderly care and you own a home and you can't pay the fees, the state will sell your home. If you have transferred ownership of your home to someone else in the seven years prior to this decision being made, this transfer will be revoked and the house sold. In other words your house is forfeit and you can't just say "uh, I gave this house to my son it's not mine now" when your health is failing. This creates a situation where families try to hide how ill their elders are, and encourage them to not get the care they need, in order to keep the house in the family. What you're describing is the Potentially Exempt Transfer rules which have no bearing on this, they're purely for making a tax free transfer of a value. The Care Act is what sets out the rules for whether or not giving away your home was legitimate and it doesn't have a specific time limit to how long ago you gifted the property though, so you could have given your home to your children a decade ago, but if the Local Authority can prove that it was a deliberate deprivation of capital they can force you to pay for your care.
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Azza Bamboo posted:It's not so common here in the UK, but everything here is controlled by the NHS who impose regimented "healthcare pathways" on their service providers. From what I heard in discussion (this was years ago now) apparently trans people here have to be presenting in their gender all the time in all areas of their life for two years before the NHS service providers will even consider hormones. At some point they have to get signed off as sane by a psychiatrist, and they have to provide evidence from family members and their employers that they've been living all the time in their gender over these two years. They'll take in all kinds of evidence like getting your name changed by deed poll before making the decision to actually do anything medical. Most of what I heard in this regard was bitching about how much of a pain in the rear end all this was, and some concerns like someone was balding and didn't want to have to wait 2 years for drugs. I don't know which system is better but I thought it'd be interesting to throw into the discussion. I grew up in Canada when we had this system. Now we have informed consent (basically, express that you've thought of it for a while, are relatively mentally stable, and know the expected outcomes and you can access HRT and non-genital surgeries.) The old system sucked. Just think of the logistics of living your life with your current body and trying to present as and get people to treat you as the opposite sex. It basically prevented people from accessing medically supervised hormones unless they were very lucky in having an exceptionally trans-friendly line of work and/or family. I grew up in Canada, knew I wanted to transition from childhood, and wasn't able to do it until they changed the laws. Also, RLE (real life experience-- the 2 year requirement) was not at all representative of what life was like after medically transitioning. It essentially represented an arbitrary roadblock erected to separate trans people from transition with the hope that they'd give up on it and "be normal." I barely know anybody who was able to transition under the old rules, but do know many people who wanted to for a long time but couldn't fit RLE into their careers. Keep in mind when I say I know 2 people who have detransitioned, that's 2 out of 100+ -- I know far more people who wanted to transition and were socially or financially unable for long periods of time, or EVER -- and the consequences weren't massive, other than social stigma and some waste of time & money. One desisted before any surgery or permanent HRT effects, other had to have breast reduction and wait a while for HRT to "wear off" but that's it. Detransition is something that trans people tend not to talk about because immediately cis people respond by saying that gatekeeping should be intensified to prevent this-- but honestly I think it gets so much press because the idea of "getting a sex change and regretting it" seems viscerally horrifying to cis people, but the converse of being stuck with a body you hate and unable to access medical care doesn't resonate the same way. The people I know who detransitioned had fewer negative consequences than the people who made bad educational decisions, but we don't impose a mandatory 2 year wait before taking our student loans. I should also add that so far there is no reliable method to screen out people who will regret transitioning beyond the current common-sense method of screening out people who are not mentally competent to make major life decisions. Gatekeeping "back in the day" here was notorious for being overly stringent. People who didn't fit specialists' very specific stereotypical image of a trans person faced a high risk of rejection-- so it was so common to advise people to lie to their doctors and tell them the "accepted narrative" in order to be approved for treatment, which just reinforced the medical misperception that all trans people had the same narrative, prevented trans people from being honest with their physicians, and created an antagonistic relationship between those doctors and the community for which they were ostensibly providing care. And as for rationing of care: HRT is cheap compared to years of psychiatric care and clinical monitoring, which is what the old system looked like. And creating mutual distrust between trans people and doctors created add-on problems where trans people who went outside their national medical system for trans-related care didn't want to disclose it to Canadian doctors and consequently avoided routine preventative care, checkups, etc. tl;dr: the 2 year wait had huge problems and there is a reason medical consensus now favors informed consent over RLE for everything other than irreversible genital surgeries.
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Theophany posted:This 'eat the rich' gimmick whereby everybody who earns exactly a dollar more than I do should be taxed more heavily is the laziest poo poo. do you realize how little the rich are taxed now compared to the conservative golden age of the 1950s because holy poo poo the rich have owned the government for decades and it loving shows We're the richest country on Earth, we should be able to pay for basic services and we would if we could grow some loving balls and stand up to our Captains of Industry, and "heh people who make normal amounts of money only want people richer than them to get taxed more  " is not the devastating response you think it isAt any rate I would gladly pay slightly more in taxes to end the de facto ownership of our government by special-interest groups. It's not even individuals we need to oppose, really, it's Mitt's corporate persons running the show at everyone else's expense
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I'll be honest. I don't "get" the trans thing fully and I'll just say I trust doctors and psychiatrists to have a better idea of how to build a healthcare system than I do. Theophany posted:The Care Act is what sets out the rules for whether or not giving away your home was legitimate and it doesn't have a specific time limit to how long ago you gifted the property though, so you could have given your home to your children a decade ago, but if the Local Authority can prove that it was a deliberate deprivation of capital they can force you to pay for your care. So we're in agreement that the state isn't somehow trying to preserve your house and pay your care for you. In fact the laws are tighter than I had thought. Saeku posted:I grew up in Canada when we had this system... I can get with the idea. If you know what the meds are going to do to you then you bring it upon yourself if you take them. If you're the 2 in 100 who regret it, well in that case it was their choice. They knew what was going to happen. Sure they're not happy but you don't stop an express train full of people just because 2 people got on the wrong train. HEY EVERYONE STOP TRANSITIONING, THIS GUY HAS REGRETS Azza Bamboo fucked around with this message at 15:02 on Aug 22, 2018 |
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Theophany posted:This 'eat the rich' gimmick whereby everybody who earns exactly a dollar more than I do should be taxed more heavily is the laziest poo poo.
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Just lol if you're trans in the US. And by "lol" I mean "I'm so, so sorry"
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Irony Be My Shield posted:You're complaining that rich people receive healthcare 'for free' while simultaneously baulking at the idea of making them contribute more to it. Taking a portion of their assets via for example inheritance tax is far fairer than making some lose everything while others pay nothing based on who happens to get dementia. Walk up to a conservative/libertarian and watch their heads explode as you whisper into their ear "100% inheritance tax"
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Is this the argument that will get this thread shut down? Quick, let's talk about fahrenheit vs celsius or something.
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SciFiDownBeat posted:Walk up to a conservative/libertarian and watch their heads explode as you whisper into their ear "100% inheritance tax" "But what will my children have?" they will gasp, aghast and horrified To this you must reply "Your children will be left with NOTHING apart from all the advantages you have given them over the course of their lives as the scions of privilege, along with whatever resources they have managed to build for themselves by the time you die of natural causes." The resulting heart attack will be quite lucrative for the state.
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