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Flash Gordon Ramsay
Sep 28, 2004

Grimey Drawer

Azhais posted:

Sounds super enforceable. "Ah ha! Guns! We got you now!" "Actually those belong to my wife."

That still counts as (constructive) possession in lots of states and is a no no.

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Azathoth
Apr 3, 2001

Ommin posted:

I feel like, no matter how or when this presidency ends, there should be a lot of little loopholes like this closed up. If nothing else, Trump has exposed us all to how much we rely only on traditions to maintain our way of governance. It's time we started putting a lot of this poo poo down in writing.

There's a lot of stuff that functions on custom that is getting poo poo on right now, but for the most part, the system is functioning as designed.

For all the Founding Fathers high-minded talk, they were deeply distrustful of voters. They explicitly built time into the system where the government would be able to act without fear of interference from voters. The system was designed so that the government could do unpopular things, then have time for them to work before having to answer to voters at the polls.

It also anticipated individual branches failing to conduct oversight on the others, as we're seeing with Congress and the Presidency. The courts, so far, seem to be functioning as intended. We'll see if that holds up.

The stuff that happens by tradition instead of by rule is mostly stuff that helps give the minority party leverage to, if not outright stop things, then at least extract concessions. That seems to mostly be gone now, but I think the GOP is gonna learn a hard lesson in the next decade about why those traditions existed as long as they did once they are out of power.

Sandwich Anarchist
Sep 12, 2008
Lol if you think either the GOP will learn a lesson from any of this, or that Democrats will stop trying to appease conservatives in the future

BovineFury
Oct 28, 2007
I moo for great justice!
Dominoooooooes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cNOxE4dGEo

Gervasius
Nov 2, 2010



Grimey Drawer

A Moose
Oct 22, 2009




Russian Zombie Twitter Bots?

Say Nothing
Mar 5, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

Garrand
Dec 28, 2012

Rhino, you did this to me!


It's almost hypnotic watching them slowly crumple.

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


iospace posted:

There is a nugget of schad though in Joe's pardon. What most people don't realize is accepting a pardon is an implicit declaration of guilt. There have been cases in the past where people have declined a pardon for that sole purpose. More often than not, though, they accept because in most cases it's a "sentence ends early" card.

So when Sheriff Joe tried to get a lawsuit against him dismissed because of the pardon, the judge told him exactly that, and rejected the motion.

Yeah, Arpiao is a convicted criminal, and because he was pardoned he can *never* get that taken off the record, retried, or whatever dumb poo poo that would allow it to not appear on his record. which I think means he can't legally run for office now, :toot:

Azathoth
Apr 3, 2001

A Moose posted:

Russian Zombie Twitter Bots?

I've seen that a few times lately. Seems like folks are getting wise to @TrumpIsMyBro638563 names

duffmensch
Feb 20, 2004

Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem!

Drone_Fragger posted:

Yeah, Arpiao is a convicted criminal, and because he was pardoned he can *never* get that taken off the record, retried, or whatever dumb poo poo that would allow it to not appear on his record. which I think means he can't legally run for office now, :toot:

Oh he’s running for Senate now: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.azcentral.com/amp/696784002

Anil Dikshit
Apr 11, 2007

Ted Kennedy proved you can kill a white girl and still be a senator

LeJackal
Apr 5, 2011
Post is not edit, whoops.

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


The Sexual Shiite posted:

Ted Kennedy proved you can kill a white girl and still be a senator

Ted Kennedy was also rich as gently caress.

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc

so loving good

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc
Between Musk and Trump, there's just too much shadenfreude in the world

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Trump tries to deny crime with Cohen, confesses by mistake.

The General
Mar 4, 2007



quote:

The crime is violating campaign finance law, by using Trump’s personal funds for a campaign-related expense (paying hush money to his mistresses).
So, you're allowed to pay hush money along as it comes from campaign funds?

Edit: I should read the whole article first.

quote:

If the money came from the campaign, it would have been legal.
I just don't understand at all. I think it should be other way around?

SneezeOfTheDecade
Feb 6, 2011

gettin' covid all
over your posts
Truckenfreude incoming next week:

https://twitter.com/CityOfBoston/status/1031179318045667328

Bombadilillo
Feb 28, 2009

The dock really fucks a case or nerfing it.

The General posted:

So, you're allowed to pay hush money along as it comes from campaign funds?

Edit: I should read the whole article first.

I just don't understand at all. I think it should be other way around?

You have rules about how money can be spent for a campaign and declarations when you spend it. You cant use magic mystery money for a campaign thing.

Using his own money for a campaign thing, paying off a pornstar to suppress a story. Was a campaign thing they didnt use campaign funds for, or declare obviously

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008


Fix your city bitch

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you

Fallom posted:

Fix your city bitch

We've been over this. They can't because there are railroads going through it and the whole town is a sewer.

Leave
Feb 7, 2012

Taking the term "Koopaling" to a whole new level since 2016.
When it comes to this Presidency, I cannot wait to see what textbooks have to say about it.

emptyspace
Oct 21, 2008

The General posted:

So, you're allowed to pay hush money along as it comes from campaign funds?

Edit: I should read the whole article first.

I just don't understand at all. I think it should be other way around?

Any money spent for the benefit of a candidate has to be reported as a campaign contribution. It's an in-kind contribution. So, money spent to take a candidate to a ball game, fancy dinner, shutting a mistress up... it's treated the same way as if you gave the money you spent on the tickets, dinner, or hush money directly to the candidate and they spent it on those things themselves. If you are giving the candidate something of value that costs money, it has to be reported as a campaign contribution.

jobson groeth
May 17, 2018

by FactsAreUseless

emptyspace posted:

Any money spent for the benefit of a candidate has to be reported as a campaign contribution. It's an in-kind contribution. So, money spent to take a candidate to a ball game, fancy dinner, shutting a mistress up... it's treated the same way as if you gave the money you spent on the tickets, dinner, or hush money directly to the candidate and they spent it on those things themselves. If you are giving the candidate something of value that costs money, it has to be reported as a campaign contribution.

According to noted law expert Giuliani that isn't' the case though.

https://twitter.com/Popehat/status/1032424838365818881

Bobbie Wickham
Apr 13, 2008

by Smythe

jobson groeth posted:

According to noted law expert Giuliani that isn't' the case though.

https://twitter.com/Popehat/status/1032424838365818881

"Who is it who lets you keep doing this?" is one of the best quotes to describe our nightmare timeline.

gbut
Mar 28, 2008

😤I put the UN🇺🇳 in 🎊FUN🎉


https://twitter.com/peterhartlaub/status/1031764296240222208?s=19

Sorry to inform you, but your son is a meth addict in making.

Ommin
Apr 5, 2006
I like to watch CinemaSins and Honest Trailers for all the movies I'm curious about but don't want to watch. It's like Cliff's Notes with commentary notes to use in conversation to "prove you watched it."

Garrand posted:

It's almost hypnotic watching them slowly crumple.

I love how it seems, at the start, that it's going to be instantaneous; but then somehow still falls slowly enough for you to feel completely helpless. You have to admire their dedication.

Knormal
Nov 11, 2001

Wait, so there's a designated day in Boston for everyone to move?

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Knormal posted:

Wait, so there's a designated day in Boston for everyone to move?

University students, dog.

Ommin
Apr 5, 2006
I like to watch CinemaSins and Honest Trailers for all the movies I'm curious about but don't want to watch. It's like Cliff's Notes with commentary notes to use in conversation to "prove you watched it."

Azathoth posted:

...but I think the GOP is gonna learn a hard lesson in the next decade about why those traditions existed as long as they did once they are out of power.

Maybe not everything, but I definitely feel this will be true about the Senate voting rules like the vote thresholds need to pass a bill. They have essentially destroyed any need for bipartisanship to pass anything.

Admiral Joeslop
Jul 8, 2010





Wikipedia posted:

There are an abundance of signs giving road clearance height. Despite the signs, a truck or other large vehicle will periodically get wedged under a bridge, which causes traffic to back up for several miles. In one incident a truck full of scissors became stuck and spilled its cargo, causing more than 30 cars to get flat tires.

Teddybear
May 16, 2009

Look! A teddybear doll!
It's soooo cute!


Knormal posted:

Wait, so there's a designated day in Boston for everyone to move?

Because of the shitload of universities in Boston, and the fact that the rental market is very heavily student-based, about two-thirds of all apartment leases turn over on September 1.

Storrow Drive snakes along the Charles River, which means that it's both high-traffic and close to universities in both Boston and Cambridge. It also has a clearance of about ten feet, thanks to pedestrian bridges that connect the rest of the city to the riverbank. (It was named after a banker and preservationist, Storrow, who never said he wanted a road there-- and his widow vehemently opposed it in his stead.)

As a result, every year there are college freshmen in rented uhauls that use their phone's GPS to navigate our famously obtuse roads, naively get onto Storrow Drive, ignore the height signs or forget they're driving a truck, and bam. Storrowed.

Teddybear has a new favorite as of 04:27 on Aug 23, 2018

Bombadilillo
Feb 28, 2009

The dock really fucks a case or nerfing it.

Teddybear posted:

Because of the shitload of universities in Boston, and the fact that the rental market is very heavily student-based, about two-thirds of all apartment leases turn over on September 1.

Storrow Drive snakes along the Charles River, which means that it's both high-traffic and close to universities in both Boston and Cambridge. It also has a clearance of about ten feet, thanks to pedestrian bridges that connect the rest of the city to the riverbank. (It was named after a banker and preservationist, Storrow, who never said he wanted a road there-- and his widow vehemently opposed it in his stead.)

As a result, every year there are college freshmen in rented uhauls that use their phone's GPS to navigate our famously obtuse roads, naively get onto Storrow Drive, ignore the height signs or forget they're driving a truck, and bam. Storrowed.

Send pics my good goon. Sounds like a great time to setup a lawn chair and drink a soda out of a brown paper bag.

Malachite_Dragon
Mar 31, 2010

Weaving Merry Christmas magic

Leavemywife posted:

When it comes to this Presidency, I cannot wait to see what textbooks have to say about it.

It'll just be a hundred pages of screaming.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

Teddybear posted:

As a result, every year there are college freshmen in rented uhauls that use their phone's GPS to navigate our famously obtuse roads, naively get onto Storrow Drive, ignore the height signs or forget they're driving a truck, and bam. Storrowed.

A GIS or Twitter search for The Storrowing is a total schade parade

https://twitter.com/hashtag/storrowing?lang=en

Garrand
Dec 28, 2012

Rhino, you did this to me!

I read that as The Sorrowing. Not disappointed.

MrJacobs
Sep 15, 2008

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

A GIS or Twitter search for The Storrowing is a total schade parade

https://twitter.com/hashtag/storrowing?lang=en



Why would you make pedestrian bridges so short on major city road that needs to be able to handle traffic like buses? It's not like its a side street or something.

SneezeOfTheDecade
Feb 6, 2011

gettin' covid all
over your posts

MrJacobs posted:

Why would you make pedestrian bridges so short on major city road that needs to be able to handle traffic like buses? It's not like its a side street or something.

It doesn't need to handle buses. This is largely a result of naive GPS, which just shows you the shortest route and doesn't account for obstructions or height requirements.

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Teddybear
May 16, 2009

Look! A teddybear doll!
It's soooo cute!


MrJacobs posted:

Why would you make pedestrian bridges so short on major city road that needs to be able to handle traffic like buses? It's not like its a side street or something.

It doesn’t handle buses; none of the MBTA routes go through it. It was mainly designed as a naive way to attempt to alleviate car traffic from other roads in town, like a mini highway. They couldn’t build pedestrian bridges that high at the time because of the limited space on either side, but nobody was going to drive anything big through there, right? They wouldn’t be so stupoh wait there’s the first of thousands of crashes, whoops.

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