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Eva Green makes Casino Royale way better than it actually should be. Much like how Diana Rigg does all the work in OHMSS.
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thrawn527 posted:*ahem* Fine then, when necessary but of course private only, never commercial.
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Aug 21, 2018 20:46
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Let Christopher McQuarrie direct the next one. Cast Tom Cruise as 007. Problem solved.
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Aug 21, 2018 20:54
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Keep cruise as ethan hunt, but ilsa is promoted as the next 007, crossover appeal
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Aug 21, 2018 21:48
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What they should do is have Bond go rogue because he was only really allowed to go out on missions because he was Judi Dench's favourite and she looked out for him (this is at least implicit if not explicit in Skyfall as is), and someone else from MI6 played by [insert actor] has to chase him down and they're built up as the villain, but then they shoot him dead and go back to base where Ralph Fiennes says, "Good work. You are James Bond now."
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Aug 21, 2018 21:50
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You're thinking this wrong: make a famous trans actress like Laverne Cox the new Bond girl and imply that she's the one that boffed him up the bum. Like, you see him necking with the Bond girl and in the next scene, he walks into M's office, has a funny shuffle to his walk and when he sits down, he pauses for a second before sitting properly. M: Rough night? Bond: I suppose it was, yes. The vitriol that this will generate from alt-right douches and people with lovely opinions to a deadline like Katie Hopkins will be absolutely hilarious.
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Aug 21, 2018 22:15
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sean10mm posted:My hot take is that Casino Royale 2006 doesn't hold up, and everything that came after it was a waste. The movie up to the end of the ellipsis segment is easily the best bond ever, the poker game is ok then it takes a big fart until the amazing final scene, though with a commendable dedication to robust ball torture
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I re-watched Casino Royale on a plane recently, and IMO, it definitely still holds up, but my main gripe with it still holds true as well: I could not give any less of a gently caress about poker (or card games in general), don't care to learn, don't want to learn, and I have absolutely zero interest in it whatsoever, and quite frankly, I find all discussion of poker to be tedious as gently caress - consequently, that entire poker tournament is a chore to get through, but things do pick up considerably right away once those shenanigans are done.
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Aug 22, 2018 08:26
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Electronico6 posted:With Nolan we might just get Tom Hardy grunting his way through a James Bond movie and that's the only way to salvage this franchise at this point. I hate that this is probably the future of the franchise.
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Aug 22, 2018 11:37
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Already calling it that Tom Hooper directs Bond 25
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Egbert Souse posted:Already calling it that Tom Hooper directs Bond 25 Um. Hey Ron Howard, can you swoop in please?
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Egbert Souse posted:Already calling it that Tom Hooper directs Bond 25 That would be one way to guarantee I never see the movie in a theater. I got the worst goddamn headache during loving Les Mis.
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Check this.... Starring: Idris Elba, Ralph Feinnes, Naomi Harris, Bond Girl Bailey Jay, Villain Neil Patrick Harris Writer: Damien Lindoff and The Coen Bros Cinematographer: Roger Deakins Director: Michael Bay Gatts fucked around with this message at 03:55 on Aug 23, 2018 |
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Aug 23, 2018 03:53
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Love to see Kathryn Bigelow or Doug Liman direct a Bond film. Or does it have to be a European/British/Commonwealth citizen? In which case, why not Toa Fraser or Roseanne Liang? edogawa rando fucked around with this message at 07:00 on Aug 23, 2018 |
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Aug 23, 2018 06:52
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Give it to Ken Loach. Bond retires, finds out he's not eligible for military pension because he wasn't legally a member of UK military, can't work because his body is failing due to multiple stabbings/beatings/gunshots suffered in his career. Pronounced fit to work and denied allowance, Bond tries to drink himself to death on streets of London, and tries to find shelter in a local church. Dies impaled on a church fence. Final scene, young man (John Boyega) walks into M's office, ready to live life of luxury and high-tech violence in service of His Majesty Charles III.
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Aug 23, 2018 17:56
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Taika Waititi.
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Gervasius posted:Give it to Ken Loach. Bond goes Ronin and ends up mixed up in something too big and the new 007 shows up on the scene.
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Timby posted:That would be one way to guarantee I never see the movie in a theater. I got the worst goddamn headache during loving Les Mis. And everything else he does. JOHN ADAMS is full of Dutch angles without any rhyme or reason, and I've not heard good things about him from the set of HIS DARK MATERIALS.
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Aug 23, 2018 21:37
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Gervasius posted:Give it to Ken Loach. Close. Bond wants to retire, gets told to do something shady undercover as a last mission, is disavowed by the agency and government, denied his pension and stuff, betrayed by friends and family, is all alone, breaks down, is stuck doing terrible things and trying to find a way out to survive, only to meet John Boyega, who is sent to kill James, and with that kill, gets to become the new 007 on behalf Britain, the Queen, and some very wealthy donor elites.
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Recently I heard that one of the creative differences cited as a reason for Boyle's departure was disagreement with Daniel Craig over the casting a Russian villain. Does Craig have Tom Cruise-like influence behind-the-scenes?
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Wheat Loaf posted:Recently I heard that one of the creative differences cited as a reason for Boyle's departure was disagreement with Daniel Craig over the casting a Russian villain. Does Craig have Tom Cruise-like influence behind-the-scenes? He has a lot of influence over script and casting, especially for all the extra bond ladies that pop up in his movies.
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Aug 24, 2018 00:16
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They don’t want him to walk, so they gave him creative control. Hopefully Bond not being in Sony’s wretched hands might make the film not be nonsense trash.
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Aug 24, 2018 00:17
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I don't know why they continue to have Craig in the role as every single time he does press for Bond movies he goes on a rant about doing bond poo poo. Eon should just swallow their pride and get Cavill. Failing that mumbles Hardy and Chris Nolan will likely deliver something incredible.
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Aug 24, 2018 00:24
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Because Craig's movies have made a ton of money and he's really good in the role. Him grumbling in interviews about it doesn't matter.
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Aug 24, 2018 00:29
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Mantis42 posted:Because Craig's movies have made a ton of money and he's really good in the role. Him grumbling in interviews about it doesn't matter. He wasn't grumbling about it, he talked how he rather slit his wrists before doing another bond movie. At this point most Craig movies have been complete production disasters, so nobody is making tons of money out of this beyond advertising money which only needs the brand and a good looking dude in a suit. Edit:It seems that Craig is being paid 25 million dollars just for the movie, and up to 100 million dollars from the movie revenue. Guess his the one making the tons of money. Electronico6 fucked around with this message at 00:54 on Aug 24, 2018 |
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Aug 24, 2018 00:51
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Wheat Loaf posted:Recently I heard that one of the creative differences cited as a reason for Boyle's departure was disagreement with Daniel Craig over the casting a Russian villain. Does Craig have Tom Cruise-like influence behind-the-scenes? Pretty much. He can veto a director and he can veto a script. They gave him a metric fuckton of money to do Bond 25.
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Electronico6 posted:He wasn't grumbling about it, he talked how he rather slit his wrists before doing another bond movie. At this point most Craig movies have been complete production disasters, so nobody is making tons of money out of this beyond advertising money which only needs the brand and a good looking dude in a suit. Imagine working a really really long and tiring shift at work, where you had to deal with a ton of stuff you didn't expect, and everthing kept piling, and the moment you clock out, someone says "Hey, you ready to do it again tomorrow!?" Fucccck yooou. Don't ask Craig if he's doing more right after he did the last one.
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Wheat Loaf posted:Recently I heard that one of the creative differences cited as a reason for Boyle's departure was disagreement with Daniel Craig over the casting a Russian villain. Does Craig have Tom Cruise-like influence behind-the-scenes? That really sounds more like a broke-the-camels-back situation to be honest. Once the star starts vetoing you before you've started shooting then it's not going to end. Like no doubt they gave Boyle control, but they clearly gave Craig more. This, by the way, is probably why they won't go for a known star next time around. It certainly won't be Idris Elba.
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CelticPredator posted:Imagine working a really really long and tiring shift at work, where you had to deal with a ton of stuff you didn't expect, and everthing kept piling, and the moment you clock out, someone says "Hey, you ready to do it again tomorrow!?" Daniel Craig gets paid millions of dollars and even more on box office and imagine rights, he aint some overworked and underpaid loser teamster in these films. He also spends his days doing these movies in the best and fanciest parts of the world and having extra women actresses hired so he can gently caress them on the side. Long and tiring. Get the gently caress out of here man. Electronico6 fucked around with this message at 09:13 on Aug 24, 2018 |
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Aug 24, 2018 09:07
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I don’t know why people keep bringing up Nolan as a potential director. I like some of his movies a lot but he really sucks at action.
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nemesis_hub posted:I don’t know why people keep bringing up Nolan as a potential director. I like some of his movies a lot but he really sucks at action. Mind you, that's exactly how I felt about the action in Skyfall and Spectre. Beautifully shot, but doesn't excite.
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Electronico6 posted:Daniel Craig gets paid millions of dollars and even more on box office and imagine rights, he aint some overworked and underpaid loser teamster in these films. He also spends his days doing these movies in the best and fanciest parts of the world and having extra women actresses hired so he can gently caress them on the side. Yeah you’re right. Films aren’t a job at all and in fact very easy to make and require no work at all. My mistake. Namaste
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CelticPredator posted:Yeah you’re right. Films aren’t a job at all and in fact very easy to make and require no work at all. They are a job, but the millionaire rear end in a top hat who ends up getting millions of dollars in pay and is in part responsible for making these "long and tiring shifts" is the last person to complain about it. nemesis_hub posted:I don’t know why people keep bringing up Nolan as a potential director. I like some of his movies a lot but he really sucks at action. Nolan talks alot how Bond movies made him want to direct and how he would love to do one eventually. Inception ends up being his casting tape for the job.
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You can complain about job no matter the pay, htfh
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Electronico6 posted:They are a job, but the millionaire rear end in a top hat who ends up getting millions of dollars in pay and is in part responsible for making these "long and tiring shifts" is the last person to complain about it. It's still a long process, particularly if you're the lead. Asking someone hey you want to do this again right after they've had a lovely experience with it isn't going to get you the brightest answer. Sure you get a fat enough compensation for it, but it doesn't make the day to day easier.
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DrVenkman posted:It's still a long process, particularly if you're the lead. Asking someone hey you want to do this again right after they've had a lovely experience with it isn't going to get you the brightest answer. Craig behaviour and manias are one of the reasons of why the last productions have been extremely lovely experiences. He spent most of Spectre fighting with Mendes, and this production he apparently already got the director fired and delaying it once again. The problem with Daniel Craig has with James Bond shoots is Daniel Craig.
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Has a Bond debut ever been a financial failure? Because they obviously operate under this questionable idea that once a Bond is established we should squeeze as much out of their run as possible before risking a recasting, but is that even based on any real evidence? If you recast Bond and give the franchise a fresh start, historically people typically respond to that and show up to buy tickets right? That said, I love Craig in the role so I did want to see him have a chance to go out on a better note.
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Basebf555 posted:Has a Bond debut ever been a financial failure? Because they obviously operate under this questionable idea that once a Bond is established we should squeeze as much out of their run as possible before risking a recasting, but is that even based on any real evidence? If you recast Bond and give the franchise a fresh start, historically people typically respond to that and show up to buy tickets right? I don't have numbers, but I imagine they weren't happy with the numbers they got from Lazenby's debut, considering they went back to Connery for the next movie.
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thrawn527 posted:I don't have numbers, but I imagine they weren't happy with the numbers they got from Lazenby's debut, considering they went back to Connery for the next movie. I was under the impression that they 100% wanted Lazenby back but he was a weirdo and hated being Bond so he quit(or demanded so much money that it was basically the same as quitting). Edit: yea it made like 85 million in 1969 so I doubt they were disappointed with that on a 7 mil budget.
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Basebf555 posted:I was under the impression that they 100% wanted Lazenby back but he was a weirdo and hated being Bond so he quit(or demanded so much money that it was basically the same as quitting). Oh gently caress, you're right. I remember an interview now where he said he regretted turning them down, but someone convinced him that, in the hippy culture at the time, continuing to play a government killer would be bad for his career. Oops.
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