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Harime Nui posted:Disney has official forums, right? Being a mod is a kind of career Augh
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It would be really funny if Abrams hinged some big plot twist on Jakku being Tantooine.
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Aug 23, 2018 06:24
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Jedi Knight Luigi posted:Aw man right when it was gettin good. I'm sorry, for breaking kayfabe.
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Aug 23, 2018 06:25
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jivjov posted:Learn to share. *truck beeping as it backs up to dump a giant growing irony cat into this reply post*
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Aug 23, 2018 06:25
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jivjov posted:And you're an arrogant jackass who doesn't understand the concept of something that isn't yours. Go back to grade school. Learn to share. This is just rank projection. You are clearly the only one concerned with selfish, exclusive ownership and preventing others from having their say.
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Aug 23, 2018 06:26
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Jivjov you will be in my prayers tonight, namaste
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Aug 23, 2018 06:28
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is jivjov the first goon to wriggle out of a dogpile because people were legit afraid he might have an aneurysm
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Aug 23, 2018 06:29
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Jakku and Tatooine being the same is not a joke. It’s fully supported by the text. Anyway, did anyone else note that the Legend Of Darth Plagueis The Wise is officially non-canon? It says right there that it’s a legend.
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Aug 23, 2018 06:31
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Jivjov probably saw some children playing star wars in a park and had to get up to go explain to them that their adventures were not authorized by the story group, not canon, not in continuity, probably constituted copyright infringement, and so on, until he began stomping their toys and frothing at the mouth
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Aug 23, 2018 06:33
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Anyway, did anyone else note that the Legend Of Darth Plagueis The Wise is officially non-canon? It says right there that it’s a legend. Well, sure, he's a character from an old morality tale. Surely you're not suggesting that such a person ever existed?
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Aug 23, 2018 06:37
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jivjov posted:Well maybe if raging loving idiots didn't come in here going "HURR DURR I OWN STAR WARS AND CONTINUITY DOESNT EXIST" I wouldn't have to e-shout to make a loving point. Suppose I bought Star Wars from Disney for 50 billion dollars tomorrow, and then did nothing with the film series except to re-issue A New Hope with an edited title crawl that clarifies that Princess Leia was in fact trafficking child slaves in her blockade runner to fund the Rebellion. Suppose I paid eleven people seven-figure salaries to do nothing but trickle salacious details about her slave business over Twitter and called them the Star Wars Clarification Collective. Would these pronouncements be authoritative?
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Aug 23, 2018 06:37
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Jakku and Tatooine being the same is not a joke. It’s fully supported by the text. That's why it would be so funny, you see.
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Aug 23, 2018 06:51
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jivjov posted:And you're an arrogant jackass who doesn't understand the concept of something that isn't yours. Go back to grade school. Learn to share. this has to be some kind of performance art if you're saying 'learn to share' in defense of disney, the faceless megacorp that's snapping up every media property known to man and their bizarre take on copyright
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Aug 23, 2018 07:00
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Milkfred E. Moore posted:this has to be some kind of performance art if you're saying 'learn to share' in defense of disney, the faceless megacorp that's snapping up every media property known to man and their bizarre take on copyright Libertarianism is the natural apotheosis of liberal ideology, but it's been pretty wild to see someone get there in real time.
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Aug 23, 2018 07:05
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A Thought Experiment For jivjov jivjov has previously stated that all current Disney produced Star Wars media are equal. That is, the novel where Poe Dameron farted at a wedding (??? is this real?) is just as "canon" as the movie where he blew up the Starkiller Base (which is NOT a Death Star). However, some previous works produced when George Lucas owned the franchise are "Legends". That is, they are not real (so no moon fell on Chewie), although all the movies still are. jivjov has become angry in this thread because SMG has stated Jakku=Tatooine, which is against Disney canon (we'll accept jivjov's take for the sake of argument here). So, following this logic, does this mean if all of CineD somehow had billions of dollars, formed our own corporation (Zizek Pty Ltd) and purchased the Star Wars license, any media we produced would then be canon and we could treat the Disney media the way they treat the "Legends" media? In this hypothetical future, if our canon said Jakku WAS Tatooine, would jivjov post angrily on this forum that anybody who said it wasn't was selfish and did not get to decide what was canon? That Jakku WAS Tatooine and everyone who said otherwise should shut up? Or would jivjov realise that canon is a mugs game and you should judge media in factors other than what the owners said was real? I'm really tempted to ask if jivjov has ever watched professional wrestling and has heard of phantom title changes (like a title changes hands on a house show but is never acknowledged or show in the "official" records), does that mean that the people in the live audience who saw the title change hands, didn't actually see it? Does WWE and Vince McMahon control our reality?
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Aug 23, 2018 07:50
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My favorite Death Star is the tiny Death Star the Rebels have on Hoth, which was the test bed for technologies to make it so the Death Star in Return of the Jedi (the third Death Star) would be able to hit ships in addition to planets. e: I also realized that Empire starts with the Imperials launching a ground invasion on a secret base and need to blow up the shield generator so their ships stop being destroyed by a Death Star. Return of the Jedi ends with the Rebels launching a ground invasion on a secret base to blow up a shield generator so their ships stop being destroyed by a Death Star. Shiroc fucked around with this message at 08:17 on Aug 23, 2018 |
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Aug 23, 2018 08:00
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Bongo Bill posted:On which placemat did the Story Group declare that I've claimed ownership over anything but my own thoughts? The Solo commemorative placemat from Denny's. I thought we'd established that already.
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Aug 23, 2018 08:26
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garycoleisgod posted:A Thought Experiment For jivjov Actually, it's good that you bring up the farting novel (yes, it's very real -- "it's true, all of it") because apparently another novel came out recently that depicted the wedding again but didn't have any of the fairly detailed farting in it. If all canon is the same and true, how can this be? In the vein of Schrodinger's Cat, I suggest we refer to this peculiarity as Dameron's Fart. It both did and didn't happen. Such is the magic of the Story Group.
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Aug 23, 2018 08:58
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jivjov you play the star wars rpg right? if im running a game and one of my players decides to walk over to mos eisley and shoot han solo in the face should i let him
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Aug 23, 2018 09:15
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I'm not jivjov but I'd say "you know how in the Special Editions reality kinda tugs around Harrison Ford and his body just somehow impossibly bleeds out of the way of the blaster bolt? That happens every. time. you try. to change. canon."
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Aug 23, 2018 09:18
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I'm not jivjov but I'd say Poe Fart Is Real
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Aug 23, 2018 09:19
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Harime Nui posted:I'm not jivjov but I'd say "you know how in the Special Editions reality kinda tugs around Harrison Ford and his body just somehow impossibly bleeds out of the way of the blaster bolt? That happens every. time. you try. to change. canon." But... the future refused to change.
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Aug 23, 2018 09:32
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"It's not canon! It's not canon!" I continue to insist as I slowly shrink and transform into miniaturized death star tech
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Aug 23, 2018 11:35
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no please i'm too weak. don't let [the thread] kill meeee please don't https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zr31qrEH9dg
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Aug 23, 2018 11:52
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It must be really scary believing in the power of the Story Group. I mean, they could deem the OT non-canon tomorrow. Just, poof and it's gone!
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Aug 23, 2018 11:52
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jivjov posted:My loving god. I can't even FATHOM the arrogance needed to watch a movie series and decide "I own this now and can all the decisions about the ongoing continuity." I kinda don’t want to join in the dogpile on you, jivjov, but doesn’t the Story Group do exactly what you describe above? Disney owns Star Wars, and can make any decisions about ongoing continuity; this isn’t arrogance because... they had the money to buy the franchise?
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Aug 23, 2018 12:02
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jivjov posted:And you're an arrogant jackass who doesn't understand the concept of something that isn't yours. Go back to grade school. Learn to share. my dude have you tried honking off
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Aug 23, 2018 12:05
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Nobody in gets confused about what universe they are seeing because ‘universes’ don’t actually exist. Well one does.
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Aug 23, 2018 12:43
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Jivjov is the funniest because they do their best to be nice and easy-going... but then you do something like question the ownership of Star Wars, and their mask drops to reveal a snarling rear end in a top hat. Like, this is a guy always ready to criticise casual ableism: jivjov posted:Well maybe if raging loving idiots didn't come in here going "HURR DURR I OWN STAR WARS AND CONTINUITY DOESNT EXIST" I wouldn't have to e-shout to make a loving point.
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Aug 23, 2018 13:04
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Martman posted:It must be really scary believing in the power of the Story Group. I mean, they could deem the OT non-canon tomorrow. Just, poof and it's gone! Darth Plagueis the Wise is clearly described as a legend; ie, non-canon. The story group has approved material confirming Darth Plagueis as Palpatine's master. Therefore, Palpatine and his Empire are non-canon. QED.
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Aug 23, 2018 13:19
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No but seriously George Lucas was quoted as saying he wa sinspired by Airtight Garage when doing the Star Wars: Droids cartoon. That'S a cool fact, Moebius is freaking awesome. We need more Moebius in the new Star Wars movies and less Star Wars.
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Aug 23, 2018 13:32
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Harime Nui posted:What seems to me white shall be black if the Story Group calls it so. We have always been at war with the First Order.
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Aug 23, 2018 13:59
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The strange thing is, again, that Jov is mixing up like three or four distinct concepts. So, like, in this post:jivjov posted:It's important so we know what stories happen in the same continuity as others. Without a continuity, every star wars story exists in a vacuum and there's nothing carrying over from story to story. ...although he’s using words like ‘story’ and ‘continuity’, what Jov actually means is that we need to know canon because without canon there’s no canon.
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Aug 23, 2018 14:17
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Anyway, did anyone else note that the Legend Of Darth Plagueis The Wise is officially non-canon? It says right there that it’s a legend. It's actually a tragedy; The Tragedy of Darth Plagueis The Wise. What does the Story Group say about ancient dramatic genres? Is Euripides real and in Star Wars?
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Aug 23, 2018 14:18
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MonsieurChoc posted:No but seriously George Lucas was quoted as saying he wa sinspired by Airtight Garage when doing the Star Wars: Droids cartoon. That'S a cool fact, Moebius is freaking awesome. Moebius ftw
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Mooey Cow posted:It's actually a tragedy; The Tragedy of Darth Plagueis The Wise. What does the Story Group say about ancient dramatic genres? Is Euripides real and in Star Wars? “It's not a story the Jedi would tell you. It's a Sith legend.” But you raise a good point: the holographic videogame in Episode 4 is the only example of fiction in any of the films. There are lies, and legends, but that’s it.
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:Jivjov is the funniest because they do their best to be nice and easy-going... but then you do something like question the ownership of Star Wars, and their mask drops to reveal a snarling rear end in a top hat. There’a no mask to drop. He’s responding to dismissal of canon in the same way he would respond to sexism or ableism, just with greater intensity because copyright infringement is a much more dire crime than bigotry. Ferrinus fucked around with this message at 16:11 on Aug 23, 2018 |
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Aug 23, 2018 15:34
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cuntman.net posted:jivjov you play the star wars rpg right? if im running a game and one of my players decides to walk over to mos eisley and shoot han solo in the face should i let him Sure, do whatever. It's your game. RPG sessions are, quite clearly, not purporting to be part of the canon.
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Jivjov, how do you kill a vampire?
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