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Vincent Van Goatse posted:James Buchanan disagrees. I see your Buchanan and raise you Woodrow Wilson
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Wilson was hot garbage but do you remember that time Obama bragged about sexually assaulting women?
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Aug 23, 2018 20:51
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I don't see Obama as a monster or anything, he seems like he actually cared about America/Americans, but I thought he was a weak and ineffectual president. I didn't think it was that spicy of a take
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Aug 23, 2018 20:51
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Hot Karl Marx posted:I don't see Obama as a monster or anything, he seems like he actually cared about America/Americans, but I thought he was a weak and ineffectual president. I didn't think it was that spicy of a take He was only weak because his blackness broke people’s minds and pointing it out would only double down their hatred. It was a no win scenario.
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Aug 23, 2018 20:59
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We had never before seen the level of obstruction Obama had to deal with. After that first couple of years a lot of the more spineless Dems distanced themselves from him in an attempt to keep their seats. That didn't make governing easy.
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Aug 23, 2018 21:00
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If Obama was willing to ignore the Angry Black Man image and strongarm stuff through like the public option America would've been a lot better off be he wasn't willing to and he didn't even want the public option anyway so here we are. Trump getting elected is probably the biggest indictment of how much of a failure the concept of respectability politics is.
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Aug 23, 2018 21:06
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Hence arguably. Nobody will argue over Trump, but W has competition.
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Aug 23, 2018 21:08
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Obama spent 8 years worried about his legacy and not actually making a good one
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Aug 23, 2018 21:09
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Bolow posted:I see your Buchanan and raise you Woodrow Wilson Woodrow Wilson was horrifically racist but he managed the country well and navigated it through the Great War as best as he could. His successor, was Warren G. Harding. Who actually IS one of the worst presidents in our history. Of course, Trump's sexual exploits and corruption are starting to blow past even Warren G. Harding.
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Aug 23, 2018 21:10
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Solaris 2.0 posted:Woodrow Wilson was horrifically racist but he managed the country well and navigated it through the Great War as best as he could. His successor, was Warren G. Harding. Who actually IS one of the worst presidents in our history. Trump's sexual exploits would probably blow Warren G. Harding.
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Aug 23, 2018 21:11
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EBB posted:Trump's sexual exploits would probably blow Warren G. Harding. I haven't read much about Trumps exploits outside of Stormy, but one of my papers in undergrad focused on Harding's affair with Nan Britton and his letters to her were downright filthy, and not even in a 1920s type way. Dude hosed in every corner of that oval office.
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Aug 23, 2018 21:13
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Solaris 2.0 posted:I haven't read much about Trumps exploits outside of Stormy, but one of my papers in undergrad focused on Harding's affair with Nan Britton and his letters to her were downright filthy, and not even in a 1920s type way.
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Aug 23, 2018 21:15
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Trump has all the tools to rocket to the top of the bad presidents list. But until he actually invades a country for no reason, costing us diplomatic influence, trillions of dollars, and countless lives while setting up the rise of further terrorism and destabilization in the region and to boost the regional power of our rival, he'll always be a also ran. The Iraq war wasn't the worst thing in American history, but it was definitely the worst completely pointless thing.
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Aug 23, 2018 21:16
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It constantly bogggles the conscience how dems haven't figured out at any point in the last 40 years that they become the literal spawn of satan to half the electorate the instant they put that (D) behind their name no matter how much they roll over, loving earn that title you pussies
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Aug 23, 2018 21:17
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Obama tacitly endorsed the war in Yemen in that he disnt cry out to end it. A few months before he left office he was blocking arms sales to KSA. Then a few months after Trump took office a very large arms deal went through, which the white house celebrated, pointing out that Obama had been against it. And now over a year after the fact, the war’s going just great and totally doesn’t suck for civilians, the KSA forces, and UAE forces!
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Aug 23, 2018 21:24
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Best Friends posted:The Iraq war wasn't the worst thing in American history, but it was definitely the worst completely pointless thing. I still can't figure out why they did it. Was it literally just "a war will boost our polling and we can take their oil, it'll be a cakewalk!" ???
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Aug 23, 2018 21:24
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my kinda ape posted:I still can't figure out why they did it. Was it literally just "a war will boost our polling and we can take their oil, it'll be a cakewalk!" ??? As always, PBS has you covered https://www.pbs.org/video/frontline-bushs-war-part-1/ TIP, you're going to need a stiff drink after, especially if you served.
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Aug 23, 2018 21:26
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my kinda ape posted:I still can't figure out why they did it. Was it literally just "a war will boost our polling and we can take their oil, it'll be a cakewalk!" ??? Even if you don’t consciously want tour intel to be fake, if you yell at intel workers about how theyre failing to find evidence of WMDs for months or years, by god they’ll find a way to tenuously connect dots and provide you some semblance of causus belli.
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Aug 23, 2018 21:28
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my kinda ape posted:I still can't figure out why they did it. Was it literally just "a war will boost our polling and we can take their oil, it'll be a cakewalk!" ???
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Aug 23, 2018 21:28
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The original planning team for Iraq was convinced we’d be down to like 15,000 troops by about Christmas. The military and state department just assumed everyone in Iraq would immediately chill out, rebuild, and create a working government. Thats Christmas after the spring offensive.
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Aug 23, 2018 21:31
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Insh'Elon https://twitter.com/becbecliuliu/st...ingawful.com%2F
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Aug 23, 2018 21:32
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my kinda ape posted:I still can't figure out why they did it. Was it literally just "a war will boost our polling and we can take their oil, it'll be a cakewalk!" ??? A permanent base in the middle east.
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Aug 23, 2018 21:33
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Solaris 2.0 posted:As always, PBS has you covered Casimir Radon posted:Neo-Cons had been trying to get us back in Iraq through out the entirety of the 90s. Go read Hubris by Michal Isikoff and David Corn. It'll make you mad, but at the same time stupid fuckers like Wolfowitz will look positively cuddly next to the people Donnie surrounds himself with. Thanks for the recommendations! I'm only 27 so I was too young to have paid attention at the time and I haven't done any in depth look as an adult.
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Aug 23, 2018 21:33
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my kinda ape posted:Thanks for the recommendations! I'm only 27 so I was too young to have paid attention at the time and I haven't done any in depth look as an adult. Don’t worry, the same is true of most people 40 years your senior.
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Aug 23, 2018 21:36
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I'd just like to remind you all that some of us on the peninsula do actual real loving science and we're not all this jackass.
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Aug 23, 2018 21:40
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Sounds like you just lack vision!
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Aug 23, 2018 21:44
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the damage that trump has done is going to be felt for the next 20 years because he has pushed two party politics to the extreme limits where literally anything the democrats want is the worst and you deserve death if you support it
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Aug 23, 2018 21:46
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my kinda ape posted:I still can't figure out why they did it. Was it literally just "a war will boost our polling and we can take their oil, it'll be a cakewalk!" ??? It's vastly stupider than you think, nobody really thought about what they were doing at all. They just thought it sounded good. That was the depth of analysis.
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Aug 23, 2018 21:48
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W's handlers also put bible quotes in his daily presidential brief to encourage the thought that we're doing god's work
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Aug 23, 2018 21:54
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Trump's handlers also put
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Aug 23, 2018 22:00
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at this point it's probably so slimmed down it probably reads like a cspam post so basically just a single 8.5x11 with TRUMP in 72 point font in landscape
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Aug 23, 2018 22:01
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Eej posted:If Obama was willing to ignore the Angry Black Man image and strongarm stuff through like the public option America would've been a lot better off be he wasn't willing to and he didn't even want the public option anyway so here we are. Trump getting elected is probably the biggest indictment of how much of a failure the concept of respectability politics is. Here is the only good opinion about Obama's Presidency and why its an utter failure. An extremely likable but milquetoast centrist who had the power of hope and change but just offered hope and nothing else.
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Aug 23, 2018 22:06
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This is basically next level Climate Change Denial
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Aug 23, 2018 22:09
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Obamacare saved my life when I was a student in nursing school and had a sudden artery blown in my GI tract so ya'll can talk poo poo all you want but I would crawl over broken glass to vote for that man again.
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Aug 23, 2018 22:12
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https://www.upi.com/Science_News/2018/08/22/Laziness-is-an-effective-survival-skill-evolutionary-biologists-find/4141534959466/quote:"Maybe in the long term the best evolutionary strategy for animals is to be lassitudinous and sluggish," said evolutionary biologist Bruce Lieberman. Trump...right?!
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Aug 23, 2018 22:13
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Guys, we did it! We solved the dying Earth problem. Now we 200 space-based tech bros can hang in this spaceship. Look, we all wanted windows, but the designs were behind schedule and windows are a luxury. Don’t worry about the space madness and the backlog on 3D-printed flesh-lights and anime pillows. Im pretty sure the two women on board, both of whom swear they’re gay, can be red pilled.
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Aug 23, 2018 22:14
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Sergg posted:Obamacare saved my life when I was a student in nursing school and had a sudden artery blown in my GI tract so ya'll can talk poo poo all you want but I would crawl over broken glass to vote for that man again. This is equally as a valid of a take as Obama should have done more
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Aug 23, 2018 22:18
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Idea for a video game: take the Alien survival horror game and replace the Alien with Elon Musk on Viagra.
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Aug 23, 2018 22:19
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Eej posted:This is equally as a valid of a take as Obama should have done more Wish he’d done more is, however, different from pretending nothing changed, which is a popular take these days.
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Aug 23, 2018 22:19
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Don't underestimate Hope. Because I'm coming up on 2 years of having little to none and it's probably taken 5 years off my life.
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