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Pakled posted:No socialism until our African colonies are connected. gently caress the colonies. It's 1896. I would like our children to finally have access to public education and to stop dying from preventable disease. I have 0 interest in sending them out to die in dumb African wars to secure more profits for the scumbags that thought that having a trade in human hands was a good idea. Additionally, I am preemptively encouraging our Sultan to dishonor any call to arms from Japan in the event that they get into a war with Russia. It's not at all in our interests. We can bunker down in Iberia while the rest of the world goes to hell shooting each other.
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Depends how awful our industry is but it's probably really drat behind at this point and that is a serious issue that needs to be addressed.
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Aug 23, 2018 20:54
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Can we please do a land swap with whomever has that one unsightly colony in Angola already?????
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Aug 23, 2018 21:03
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It's Benin and yes, give them The Ivory Coast in exchange.
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Aug 23, 2018 21:06
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Yeah, honestly, as an Imperialist I am content. We have the largest colonial empire in our history, ruling over an area larger than Western Europe in Africa and a population larger than Western Europe in Bengal. With Ibriz, an Andalusian-speaking Gharbian great power, we've ticked off all the boxes. Plus we have pretty borders in our homeland. It's time to consolidate and bring all that wealth home to Iberia.
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Aug 23, 2018 21:09
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We have all the colonies we need. Time to milk that cow for industrial growth.
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Aug 23, 2018 21:14
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we're like some geopolitical albatross that brings ruin to everyone we ally with goddam
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Aug 23, 2018 21:14
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Also I'm sure that if there was a war with Morocco that vitory wouldn't in anyway cause a collapse of their system of government.
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Aug 23, 2018 21:20
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Can't wait for us to lose a war and go fascist.
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Aug 23, 2018 21:26
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ChaseSP posted:Can't wait for us to lose a war and go fascist. I shall be tactically voting so as to ensure this outcome happens.
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Aug 23, 2018 21:30
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ChaseSP posted:Can't wait for us to lose a war and go fascist. We have a core on Narbuna, so this is more likely than you might think.
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Aug 23, 2018 21:34
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Agean90 posted:we're like some geopolitical albatross that brings ruin to everyone we ally with goddam Hey, we haven't ruined Benin. Yet. 
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Aug 23, 2018 21:38
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Frionnel posted:Hey, we haven't ruined Benin. This just proves that ruin only comes to the fools who reject Andalusian wisdom and guidance. If the Dual Monarchy hadn't been so disloyal they'd be the Triple Monarchy of Holy Rome by now!
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Aug 23, 2018 21:50
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Moderates are probably best way forward from here. We can get oir Industry and Culture techs back up to date.
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Aug 23, 2018 21:51
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Seventh Meeting of the Majlis The year is 1895, and with Al Andalus emerging from a continental war as the world’s leading power, it’s time to reshuffle the Majlis once again. Four parties have legal admittance to the assembly - Royalists, Moderates, Imperialists, Socialists - if you want more in-game information on them, click here. Two parties are currently banned - the Radical Liberals and the Communists. I’ve posted the usual screenshots, but if you need any more info to make your choice, just say so and I’ll see what I can do. Without further ado, here are the parties of Al Andalus: Royalists After so long without power, the Royalists are growing increasingly agitated, and insist that only they can guide Al Andalus through the perilous waters that approach. They claim that preventive wars need to be launched against Morocco, to keep them from regaining their great power position, and are also determined to conquer Narbuna and incorporate Palermo into the Andalusi empire. They’ve also extensively criticised the Imperialists for folding to the socialists, and promise to halt the advance of socialism in Iberia, or else crush them underfoot. As for the khedive, so long as he remain subservient to the sultan, they have no qualms with granting him autonomy. Primary Issues: They’re primarily focused on securing the historical borders of al-Andalus. These nobles hark back to the days where al-Andalus had a commanding position in Europe, and they vow to one day see all of its continental territories reacquired (including the rest of Iberia, Corsica, Sardinia, and even Sicily). Research Policy: They’re focused on advancing Army technology, and expanding the sizes of both the standing and the mobilised armies.   Moderates Moderates campaign on the promise of a decade of peace, and with Al Andalus lagging badly behind the other GPs in industry, some peace might be exactly what they need. They will also try to win a European great power as an ally, probably the United Republic or North Germany, as a precaution against any aggression from Morocco or France. Lastly, they promise to launch a massive fortification effort to turn the Pyrenees border and Straits coastline into impregnable barriers. As for the khedive, the moderates are largely opposed to granting one man control over their colonies, and will attempt to pry him from power. Primary Issues: The policy of this party is two-pronged. First, they’re concerned with avoiding wars and maintaining the power balance between the great powers, primarily by building a vast defensive alliance web across Europe. Second, they’re devoted to investing in the internal development of al-Andalus via factories, railroads, fortresses and so on, and also improving relations abroad through foreign investment. Research Policy: They’re focused on advancing Industrial and Culture technologies, and will invest heavily in the construction of new buildings and railroads, hoping to kindle the flowering of a new renaissance in Iberia.   Imperialists Imperialists have already glorified the past three decades as the golden age of Al Andalus, claiming that it was them who dragged the country to the pinnacle of the world, and only they could keep Al Andalus there. If they manage to win a consecutive fourth term in power, they’ll continue their gradual political reformation of Al Andalus, will look to conquering the Land Corridor of Central Africa from Morocco, and also begin negotiations to partition the north Indian kingdoms with Japan. As for the khedive, the Imperialists are viciously opposed to him, and will waste no time in outfitting an expedition to topple him from power. Primary Issues: They’re concerned with securing Iberia, with no further expansion in Europe. They’re also interested in building a new colonial empire, however, seeing it as the best way to regain and cement Andalusia’s rightful position as a great power. Research Policy: They’re focused on advancing Naval and Commerce technologies, constructing larger naval bases, and most importantly - expanding and strengthening the navy.   Socialists Socialists have gradually gained influence in recent years, and despite continuous setbacks and opposition from the other parties, they're certain that the time is ripe to come into power. They’re determined to avoid warfare on any and all fronts, will almost-definitely break off the ‘imperialist alliance’ with Japan, and begin to invest into the industry and commerce of Al Andalus, with the occasional fort constructed along the Pyrenees. As for the khedive, the socialists are actually in favour of granting him autonomy (under certain conditions), as they see it as a good way to distance Al Andalus from their African colonies (and begin the long but necessary decolonisation process). Primary Issues: Their chief priority is to keep Al Andalus at peace, with no interest in further expansion, both domestically and globally. They’ll focus on internal development through factories, railroads etc, weakening the capitalist grip on industry, and - most importantly - beginning to implement their socialist ideals via reforms. They will also seek to ally with and strengthen other socialist regimes, though non-violently. Research Policy: They’re focused on advancing Industrial and Commerce technologies, with their secondary focus being culture and (defensive) army tech.   General State of the Nation Great Powers:  Political overview:   Relations overview:  Military overview:  Economy overview  Industrial overview:     Technology overview:     
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Aug 23, 2018 21:59
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The Imperialists have brought wealth and glory to Al-Andalus!
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Aug 23, 2018 22:04
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Moderates Because it’s the only way we’ll get our industry tech up, get proper forts on our borders, and not set our alliances on fire.
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Aug 23, 2018 22:04
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Well, we won the wr, the time has come. Socialism, ho!
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Aug 23, 2018 22:06
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"Lastly, they promise to launch a massive fortification effort to turn the Pyrenees border and Straits coastline into impregnable barriers. As for the khedive, the moderates are largely opposed to granting one man control over their colonies, and will attempt to pry him from power. Hell yes moderates make the pyrenees a giant fortress and take the colonies under our direct rule.
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Aug 23, 2018 22:07
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Moderates have the right ideas.
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Aug 23, 2018 22:08
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I wholeheartedly vote Moderate. Best party, best policies, screw the "Khedive", Majlis rule forever.
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Aug 23, 2018 22:08
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Yes, now is time for socia—Hashim posted:Moderates
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Aug 23, 2018 22:09
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All-in - Imperialism!
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Aug 23, 2018 22:09
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Oh god our industry is horrible please work to fix this please goons.
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Aug 23, 2018 22:10
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The Imperialists ushered in a golden age for the rich. The time has come for the Socialists to bring the golden age to the people.
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Aug 23, 2018 22:10
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I mean, obviously the Moderates, right? Seems like a trick question.
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Aug 23, 2018 22:12
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Now is the time to hide. Switched below. Lord Cyrahzax fucked around with this message at 03:29 on Aug 24, 2018 |
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Aug 23, 2018 22:13
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Socialism Now, Socialism Forever You guys can't credibly complain about us being the bad guys all the way into the 20th century if you're going to keep voting in the same conservatives that are blocking reform. 
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Aug 23, 2018 22:14
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ChaseSP posted:Oh god our industry is horrible please work to fix this please goons.
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Aug 23, 2018 22:15
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Partially Automated Comfortable Earth Socialism
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Aug 23, 2018 22:16
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I was interested in the Socialists, but the Moderates stole the very good "hole up in Iberia strat". Hmm....
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Aug 23, 2018 22:18
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Oh my God look at those industry techs  As much as I would love to seize the Morrocan Corridor, we need the Moderates to save our industry and safeguard the nation. The Pyrenees line shall be impenetrable!
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Aug 23, 2018 22:19
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ThatBasqueGuy posted:I was interested in the Socialists, but the Moderates stole the very good "hole up in Iberia strat". Hmm.... Both of them will hole up in Iberia, but moderates will dedicate more resources to fortifying the peninsula, whilst the socialists are more concerned with improving our industry and lacklustre infrastructure. Given enough time though, both will probably get the job done. The moderates will also be willing to join allies in defensive wars though, whilst the socialists would be much more isolationist in general, which is why they wanna break off the alliance with Japan.
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Aug 23, 2018 22:20
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focusing on industrial techs would prolly helpus out a lot better than more mil techs for home defense by this point tbh, since railroads let us move faster and give a reinforcement bonus iirc
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Aug 23, 2018 22:21
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moderates so that we skip socialism and head on into the glory of communism
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Aug 23, 2018 22:22
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socialism for real, let's build some trains and teach some children how to read
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Aug 23, 2018 22:22
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Socialists
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Aug 23, 2018 22:23
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Full socialism now. Odysseus S. Grant fucked around with this message at 00:19 on Aug 25, 2018 |
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Aug 23, 2018 22:25
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gently caress it changing to Socialist
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ThatBasqueGuy posted:I was interested in the Socialists, but the Moderates stole the very good "hole up in Iberia strat". Hmm.... If we're going to bind ourselves to all sorts of unnecessary military alliances with the various other Great Powers, then we're going to end up fighting in a bunch of hellwars regardless if the Moderates have any expansionist ambitions on their own. Worst yet, the children of Iberia will be dying for the imperial ambitions of foreign elites with the anticipation of minimal benefits for our own nation. The best way to secure peace for ourselves is by voting for the Socialists and avoiding getting entrapped in those meaningless conflicts in the first place.
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