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DJExile posted:you wrote a thesis attacking a victim and wrote "O$U" unironically. With literally nothing backing up other than it’s possible she could be bad. Like the original reply was not nuanced so why should we be.
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wow way to attack me on my character guys. here's why you should be skeptical of that mental nutcase courtney smith
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KIM JONG TRILL posted:But they are pretty similar. It's just a difference in scale/scope. Obviously Penn State was far, far worse, but at the core of the story is a head coach doing the bare minimum (if that) and looking the other way for years as a subordinate does horrible things... because football. Nah, that's the thing. They're wildly and completely different scenarios, and not just because of scale. First of all, nothing about Zach Smith being employed or not employed by Ohio State gave any determination to whether or not he was capable of spousal abuse. Whether or not Sandusky was employed by Penn State has everything to do with whether or not he was (easily) capable of sexual abuse. Secondly, in the case of the Smiths, the police were aware, were called, questioned, investigated, and failed to arrest. Entirely different, to compare them is absurd. quote:Literally nobody is advocating for that. You literally imply so in your first sentence of your post, accusing me of victim blaming when I suggest the mere possibility that their relationship was abusive and lovely both ways, full of alcohol and abuse and unhinged behavior from both parties, all of this backed up by her own mother, by the way. [/quote]
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MyStereoHasMono posted:Nah, that's the thing. They're wildly and completely different scenarios, and not just because of scale. First of all, nothing about Zach Smith being employed or not employed by Ohio State gave any determination to whether or not he was capable of spousal abuse. Whether or not Sandusky was employed by Penn State has everything to do with whether or not he was (easily) capable of sexual abuse. Secondly, in the case of the Smiths, the police were aware, were called, questioned, investigated, and failed to arrest. Entirely different, to compare them is absurd. What is your evidence it was abusive both ways.
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MyStereoHasMono posted:Very nuanced replies, guys, you really disproved my exact point with the tempered judgement of my character. That nonsense you shat out doesn't deserve a nuanced reply
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gently caress anyone who commits domestic violence and gently caress anyone who is an apologist for those who commit it. I deal with this poo poo on an almost daily basis for work, and you HAVE to take every allegation seriously, and THEN investigate. Because otherwise you potentially perpetuate a dangerous situation. Anyway, how bout them Tigers yall.
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MyStereoHasMono posted:Very nuanced replies, guys, you really disproved my exact point with the tempered judgement of my character. Not sure that the point of "tOSU is rear end" needs much nuance.
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I thought that was just a simple copy-paste from a Rivals thread. But nope
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Does anyone here pay for The Athletic and do you like it?
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The reason no arrests are made so often in domestic abuse situations is that the victim drops the charges or won't cooperate, for whatever reason, but quite a bit is because the abuser, whether directly or through third party influence, gets them to drop it. Many abusers can be emotionally manipulative as well. In those cases the police have nothing to go except the initial report, thus not enough evidence to make an arrest on their own. This is why it's so sad so many OSU fans are hanging their hat on the fact that no arrests were made, shows how much most people just don't understand domestic abuse cases.
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vyst posted:Does anyone here pay for The Athletic and do you like it? I got it whenever the last big sale was and like it so far. I got it mostly because they have a couple basketball writers I like a lot but the college football coverage is good
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If the abuser gets arrested then no more monetary support in terms of child or spousal support .
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Was assuming that was a case of "source your quotes" but,  vyst posted:Does anyone here pay for The Athletic and do you like it?
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I've really liked Athletic's work so far as well.
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Komet posted:I thought that was just a simple copy-paste from a Rivals thread. But nope 
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TheAlmightyFrog posted:This is why it's so sad so many OSU fans are hanging their hat on the fact that no arrests were made, shows how much most people just don't understand domestic abuse cases. Geez, there's tons of times where "well no one was arrested," but there was still something wrong, even without getting into domestic violence. Such a lousy metric to follow.
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MyStereoHasMono posted:Courtney Smith has mental and alcohol problems and was one half of an abusive, poo poo relationship. The amount of thoughtless stupidity in the reactions to this situation is a sign of the times we live in - a time of binary thinking with maximum penalties, all of which done with total certainty. *starts a slow clap*
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swickles posted:Has Courtney Smith apologized for her role in the incident yet? lol, goddamnit you just know this is coming
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I really wanted to know why he was so sure they abused each other.
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vyst posted:Does anyone here pay for The Athletic and do you like it? I picked it up at the student rate using my wife's credentials. I really like it so far.
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CharlestheHammer posted:I really wanted to know why he was so sure they abused each other. I think you know why in your heart
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MyStereoHasMono posted:Very nuanced replies, guys, you really disproved my exact point with the tempered judgement of my character.  Check out this loving knucklehead. Victims are victims are victims. You don’t have to be a perfect person to be a victim. Goddamn. Stop w the character assassination just bc it threatens the prosperity of your footbaw team, it makes you look like a total ghoul.
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Thoguh posted:Is there anything I need to know about Michigan other than Harbaugh being weird? I'm not going to jump on the Michigan train or anything but with Penn State, Ohio State, and Michigan State all being recently proven to be terrible institutions I'm willing to passively be okay with them winning the East unless informed otherwise. Hey, everything that's already been said, plus two other things: - The first and only criminal sexual incident of Jim Harbaugh's time at Michigan was Logan Tuley-Tillman filming a girl that he was having sex with without her consent. He got kicked off the team the next day after charges were filed. Nothing like that has happened at Michigan since. - Brenda Tracy is Michigan's honorary captain for the home opener against Western Michigan, she will be honored during the game and will be speaking with all of the athletes at Crisler Arena while she is here.
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CharlestheHammer posted:I really wanted to know why he was so sure they abused each other. Allow me to try... Ahem. "Real Men Don't Hit Women. Therefore either she's a Lying Harpy and possibly a slut, or she struck first - probably on her period or something - and he only acted in self-defense to end the threat she posed to himself and others. Really, he's the hero in all this." OK, I went too far down that rabbit hole and need a shower.
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AsInHowe posted:Hey, everything that's already been said, plus two other things: hey who was his first d coordinator at Michigan what is that guy up to
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MourningView posted:at least paterno was nice enough to die Urbs will fake his death to "spend more time with his family", then get hired as the coach of Notre Dame three years later
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MourningView posted:hey who was his first d coordinator at Michigan what is that guy up to Wherever he went, he isn't at Michigan, and he's probably pretty suspicious for leaving right before the 2015 Ohio State game and leaving everyone out to dry. Probably not the best guy, for leaving Harbaugh like that.
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DC Murderverse posted:Urbs will fake his death to "spend more time with his family", then get hired as the coach of Notre Dame three years later Urban ending his coaching career at Notre Dame feels disgusting, so it must be meant to be.
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JGdmn posted:Urban ending his coaching career at Notre Dame feels disgusting, so it must be meant to be. Think of the crimes he could commit at a private school, with even less accountability.
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MyStereoHasMono posted:(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) the anti-OSU tard brigade strikes again
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AsInHowe posted:Wherever he went, he isn't at Michigan, and he's probably pretty suspicious for leaving right before the 2015 Ohio State game and leaving everyone out to dry. Probably not the best guy, for leaving Harbaugh like that. I'm sure he only became a jerk recently, the guy who thinks chicken is for pussies would never tolerate any outdated macho bullshit in his programs. Let's check in with what his former Michigan players think of him Jabrill Peppers posted:His tactics were different. It felt extreme at times...The way I would describe it: kind of like bully coaching oh huh
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DC Murderverse posted:Urbs will fake his death to "spend more time with his family", then get hired as the coach of Notre Dame three years later There’s no way he’d fake being a family man for three whole years. He was on the road immediately for like 200 days with ESPN then accepted the OSU job.
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MourningView posted:at least paterno was nice enough to die edit: amazingly the OSU websites I read had some actual responses against the blatant homerism which was refreshing. Don't get me wrong, still plenty of homerism, but at least some semblance of not being gigantic assholes to the very bottom. downout fucked around with this message at 04:11 on Aug 24, 2018 |
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MourningView posted:I'm sure he only became a jerk recently, the guy who thinks chicken is for pussies would never tolerate any outdated macho bullshit in his programs. Let's check in with what his former Michigan players think of him The chicken thing was a weird dad coach joke.
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I dunno what’s worse, the Ohio State homers or the Michigan dudes using this as an opportunity to pump up their program
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Fluffdaddy posted:I dunno what’s worse, the Ohio State homers or the Michigan dudes using this as an opportunity to pump up their program Look, AsinHowe knows that you miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
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