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Modern Warfare's single player has aged incredibly well. Game looks so nice I can't believe it's a decade old. On the other hand the multiplayer has not. I can't believe I played this for 6 months straight online back in the day. I guess it was the first online game to really hook me so I didn't know any better. Map design has been hit or miss over the years but it's defiantly come a long ways from COD4.
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veni veni veni posted:Modern Warfare's single player has aged incredibly well. Game looks so nice I can't believe it's a decade old. On the other hand the multiplayer has not. I can't believe I played this for 6 months straight online back in the day. I guess it was the first online game to really hook me so I didn't know any better. Map design has been hit or miss over the years but it's defiantly come a long ways from COD4. MW Remastered actually rebuilt and modernized a lot of graphical stuff.
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Aug 27, 2018 21:11
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reinstalling mcc on my s and it’s only pulled 266 megs from the disc, so yeah, I guess it’s a total redownload and replace, for all intents and purposes.
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Aug 27, 2018 21:18
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Microsoft announced officially the Xbox All Access: https://venturebeat.com/2018/08/27/xbox-all-access-is-real-and-a-great-deal/ You can go to a Microsoft store, get a One X or One S for 35/25 a month for two years, which gives you Xbox Live, and the Game Pass. After paying for 2 years, you own the console. I feel stupid for even buying one of the original Xbones because this deal seems a helluva lot better than paying all poo poo up front.
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Aug 27, 2018 21:52
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You can cancel the service at any time and pay off the remainder of the console to keep it which surprised me.
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Aug 27, 2018 21:54
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univbee posted:MW Remastered actually rebuilt and modernized a lot of graphical stuff. Ah that explains a lot then.
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Aug 27, 2018 21:56
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Barudak posted:You can cancel the service at any time and pay off the remainder of the console to keep it which surprised me. I could see this causing people to be very brand loyal after two years you just return the console and continue paying for the next generation of systems.
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Aug 27, 2018 22:16
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Barudak posted:You can cancel the service at any time and pay off the remainder of the console to keep it which surprised me. I don't know about the US, but this is a standard legal requirement pretty much everywhere else.
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Aug 27, 2018 22:16
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Diabetic posted:Microsoft announced officially the Xbox All Access: If you are getting Gold and Game Pass anyways this is actually a good deal? What's the catch?
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Aug 27, 2018 22:17
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univbee posted:I don't know about the US, but this is a standard legal requirement pretty much everywhere else. Not sure the laws either, but I was anticipating youd get dinged on early payments or not having the digital services but thats because in the US is a legal hellscape.
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Aug 27, 2018 22:18
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DariusLikewise posted:If you are getting Gold and Game Pass anyways this is actually a good deal? What's the catch? A) If you can buy a console straight up, you can save money on the gold and gamepass with various sale deals B) You own an xbox
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Aug 27, 2018 22:20
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Barudak posted:Not sure the laws either, but I was anticipating youd get dinged on early payments or not having the digital services but thats because in the US is a legal hellscape. If they offer this in Canada, they'll be legally required to make the "buy off the console" price drop equally every month across 24 months, so after 12 months they'd be required to sell you the bonx for $300 (half off the $600 MSRP), after 18 months they'd be required to sell it for $150, etc. So that's probably what they'll do (using the full MSRP as a guide) and if you buy your way out they'll probably cancel your Gold and Gamepass at the end of that month, something along those lines.
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Aug 27, 2018 22:32
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Can we all agree that people considering payment plans on consoles probably shouldn't be buying consoles? Edit: same with fancy new phones, but that's another thread.
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Aug 27, 2018 23:12
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Yes, all consoles should be bought with straight cash, like our forefathers did.
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Aug 27, 2018 23:14
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HoneyBakedMAN posted:Can we all agree that people considering payment plans on consoles probably shouldn't be buying consoles? Its cheaper than buying them all new and have no interest. There is no financial reason not to purchase it this way from a new to new comparison, and arguably if you are capable of putting money away monthly into a index fund or other investment, you are dumber for buying it upfront.
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BisterdDave posted:Yes, all consoles should be bought with straight cash, like our forefathers did. I make all my purchases in gold bullions like our forefather's forefathers did. HoneyBakedMAN fucked around with this message at 23:29 on Aug 27, 2018 |
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Aug 27, 2018 23:26
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univbee posted:I don't know about the US, but this is a standard legal requirement pretty much everywhere else.
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Aug 27, 2018 23:30
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DariusLikewise posted:If you are getting Gold and Game Pass anyways this is actually a good deal? What's the catch? If you buy the S, you save about 40-50 dollars. If you buy the X, you save maybe 20 dollars. That's if you pay full price for everything and don't find any sales. So if you plan on getting these and 20 dollars is something you can't just throw away, then maybe it's a good deal. That's also if you don't want to spend time looking for a better deal. Every once in a while there are sales on gold and game pass and on the consoles themselves. There will definitely be few of these sales during your two years of paying off an xbox. Cojawfee fucked around with this message at 23:40 on Aug 27, 2018 |
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Aug 27, 2018 23:38
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Cojawfee posted:If you buy the S, you save about 40-50 dollars. If you buy the X, you save maybe 20 dollars. That's if you pay full price for everything and don't find any sales. That's 20-50 dollars you could be investing in the stock market.
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Aug 27, 2018 23:41
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BisterdDave posted:So I signed up for the 2 months of Game Pass for $2 this morning, and I was always under the impression that there was only ~10 games or so on rotation at any given time. Boy was I surprised when I saw the full list. Like, good god, this is all anyone pretty much needs to keep busy on Xbox. MUCH better service than I initially thought. Your problem was paying attention to certain posters who will no doubt have something clever to say about this post. 😉 Diabetic posted:Microsoft announced officially the Xbox All Access: Diabetic posted:I could see this causing people to be very brand loyal after two years you just return the console and continue paying for the next generation of systems. This seems pretty good. But on the other hand, think of all the baka parents who will buy the gaijin console now... how will they know how to game correctly... and how will they make sound investments in the stock market...
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Aug 28, 2018 00:48
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I can see this loving with a small segment of the rent to own racket
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So does the new MCC patch make it X enhanced or is it...preparing it for the X patch on the 1st? Anyways I got Conan Exiles, Halo 5, Deep Rock Galactic, FH3 and PUBG installed if anyone wants to play. Begging basically because I only have one goon on my list. GT is DisposableScud.
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Aug 28, 2018 01:07
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HoneyBakedMAN posted:Can we all agree that people considering payment plans on consoles probably shouldn't be buying consoles? Yeah, someone should write those poors a letter telling them what system to buy this upcoming holiday.
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Aug 28, 2018 01:13
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Again, I'm sitting here thinking if I had a teenager this would be great. Low out of dollar cost, the "value" is in the whole game catalog attached to it, and I can link the payment to their allowance / part time job. If you have internet, for 10 more a month than Netflix you can have Xboxgameflix. That is an easy sale.
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Aug 28, 2018 02:10
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James Woods Fan posted:So does the new MCC patch make it X enhanced or is it...preparing it for the X patch on the 1st? Anyways I got Conan Exiles, Halo 5, Deep Rock Galactic, FH3 and PUBG installed if anyone wants to play. Begging basically because I only have one goon on my list. GT is DisposableScud. It’s 4K one, came out early I guess. I was messing around earlier and Halo2 looks good.
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univbee posted:If they offer this in Canada, they'll be legally required to make the "buy off the console" price drop equally every month across 24 months, so after 12 months they'd be required to sell you the bonx for $300 (half off the $600 MSRP), after 18 months they'd be required to sell it for $150, etc. So that's probably what they'll do (using the full MSRP as a guide) and if you buy your way out they'll probably cancel your Gold and Gamepass at the end of that month, something along those lines. lol Canada/rest of world is never seeing this. We never do.
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LIVE AMMO ROLEPLAY posted:Yeah, someone should write those poors a letter telling them what system to buy this upcoming holiday. Sorry if it came across as mocking poor people. It's just in my experience people who use payment plans or loans to purchase luxury items are almost always making terrible financial decisions in the end. I'm sure this does make financial sense to people who use it responsibly.
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It's probably good for a college student who has a certain amount of spending money a month. It's a smart idea for Microsoft, not so great for consumers though. The X is only a 2% savings.
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It's good for a college kid or teenager or just someone who can't afford to buy a system and a bunch of games. And the price isn't even predatory so I don't get the cynicism from people. If it worked out to twice the price over time or something I'd be all in on bashing it but it works out pretty much 1:1 if you don't take into account hunting for deals, which I think is fair. I think it's a good idea tbh even if I have no interest in it at all personally. I don't get why people would expect it to work out to an overall discount on the system or it's monthly services. It's kind of remarkable it isn't the other way around because that is usually how that poo poo works. veni veni veni fucked around with this message at 05:04 on Aug 28, 2018 |
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veni veni veni posted:I don't get why people would expect it to work out to an overall discount on the system or it's monthly services. It's kind of remarkable it isn't the other way around because that is usually how that poo poo works. Because that's what they are selling it as.
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Aug 28, 2018 05:14
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veni veni veni posted:It's good for a college kid or teenager or just someone who can't afford to buy a system and a bunch of games. And the price isn't even predatory so I don't get the cynicism from people. If it worked out to twice the price over time or something I'd be all in on bashing it but it works out pretty much 1:1 if you don't take into account hunting for deals, which I think is fair. I think it's a good idea tbh even if I have no interest in it at all personally. It's not a bad deal on paper. I just don't like these sort of deals in general because they prey on people who want something but can't afford it.
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univbee posted:If they offer this in Canada, they'll be legally required to make the "buy off the console" price drop equally every month across 24 months, so after 12 months they'd be required to sell you the bonx for $300 (half off the $600 MSRP), after 18 months they'd be required to sell it for $150, etc. So that's probably what they'll do (using the full MSRP as a guide) and if you buy your way out they'll probably cancel your Gold and Gamepass at the end of that month, something along those lines.
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Aug 28, 2018 05:28
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you never have to hunt for xbox deals
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If it was preying on people the price would work out to more than you would pay for (not hypothetical sale price obviously) retail in the end. Which is almost always how those deals work. Rent to own, Payday loans etc. all of that poo poo is predatory. This is not because all it does is spread out to cost. poo poo, it even lets you back out of it if you pay off the system. There is nothing about it that is predatory, it just gives people more options.
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WithoutTheFezOn posted:I have no idea of Canadian law, but the deal is buying a console and both of the services for 24 months, as a bundle, up front. It’s not a console deal. There is no early buyout of just the console. There’s no cancelling the services. Not true, as discussed earlier itt.
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veni veni veni posted:If it was preying on people the price would work out to more than you would pay for (not hypothetical sale price obviously) retail in the end. Which is almost always how those deals work. Rent to own, Payday loans etc. all of that poo poo is predatory. This is not because all it does is spread out to cost. poo poo, it even lets you back out of it if you pay off the system. There is nothing about it that is predatory, it just gives people more options. "Prey" was the wrong word. What I mean is that these kind of deals confuse idiots who are bad with budgeting. Like I said, I think it's a fine deal for responsible people.
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hows it gonna work when the someone signs up for 2 years and a month later the retail price of the console drops $50-100? unless microsoft are going to hold retail console prices steady for 2 years and then refresh hardware?
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Laserface posted:hows it gonna work when the someone signs up for 2 years and a month later the retail price of the console drops $50-100? I dunno that's definitely a risk someone would be taking. But in a world full of actual disgusting scams that prey on the poor, this doesn't seem offensive at all, even if a theoretical price drop is a thing. Everything about it seems fair enough.
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Basically what I'm saying is that it just seems fair. Is it the best deal you are gonna be able to get in the long run? No, probably not. But it's not really taking advantage of the people it's targeting either. I'm not going to expect them to take future price drops or flash sales on subscription services into account. Everything about it seems super reasonable and I don't understand what's bad about it. It's not like someone who bought an Xbonx for $500 today gets to take advantage of a price drop a year from now either. If this deal applied to future price drops why would anyone even buy an Xbox outright lol?
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veni veni veni posted:Not true, as discussed earlier itt. quote:With Xbox All Access, you are purchasing the console and the 24 month Xbox Game Pass and Xbox Live Gold memberships, in full, immediately upon purchase. Outside of the standard Microsoft Store return policy, you cannot return or cancel the console or the 24 month Xbox Game Pass or Xbox Live Gold memberships.
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