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I rolled arc totems heiro as league starter for incursion and just never ended up playing anything else all league. I am really struggling not to roll it again as starter
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# ? Aug 28, 2018 11:21 |
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Goa Tse-tung posted:Champions using Double Strike and Hierophants using Arc Totems I started with the latter in incursion so gently caress doing that again. Skeletons let's do this *waits for patch notes*
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# ? Aug 28, 2018 11:22 |
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it will be interesting to see if they leave arc alone with the trap nerfs
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# ? Aug 28, 2018 11:53 |
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I wonder how bad of a nerf the throw speed is for traps.
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# ? Aug 28, 2018 12:38 |
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I think if they were going to nerf arc they would have mentioned it in the balance post since they mentioned the sunder nerf.
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# ? Aug 28, 2018 13:09 |
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I didn’t think arc was OP really. It was just traps that made it so. I’m hoping traps haven’t gone back to dumpster tier again as I quite like the play style. The throw speed nerf worries me a bit. I’m hoping it’s not a stupid nerf to 1 second throw speeds. E - also the incursion mods from the end boss made arc traps pretty good too without having to use shimmerons. Tai fucked around with this message at 13:35 on Aug 28, 2018 |
# ? Aug 28, 2018 13:22 |
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When are patch notes being released?
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# ? Aug 28, 2018 13:29 |
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Tai posted:I didn’t think arc was OP really. It was just traps that made it so. I’m hoping traps haven’t gone back to dumpster tier again as I quite like the play style. The throw speed nerf worries me a bit. I’m hoping it’s not a stupid nerf to 1 second throw speeds. I mean Arc is the best skill for self-cast, totems and traps. It can't be traps alone.
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# ? Aug 28, 2018 13:36 |
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My second character last league was a poet's pen inpulsa arc/bl elementalist as well. It tore up maps and incursions like nobody's business. But yeah, if arc doesn't take a hit, I would still expect a lot of arc totems. Curious to see if pen gets hits as well.
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# ? Aug 28, 2018 13:49 |
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Arc trap still might be viable. Really depends on how bad the throw speed nerf is. The cluster trap nerf shouldn’t effect clear speed too much. Lightning trap getting a buff could off set single target dps a bit.
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# ? Aug 28, 2018 13:53 |
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Tai posted:I didn’t think arc was OP really. It was just traps that made it so. I’m hoping traps haven’t gone back to dumpster tier again as I quite like the play style. The throw speed nerf worries me a bit. I’m hoping it’s not a stupid nerf to 1 second throw speeds. Arc is ludicrously strong, with or without traps. I did selfcast arc and PP LW/Arc and both were just ridiculous.
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# ? Aug 28, 2018 13:54 |
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Turd Herder posted:When are patch notes being released? Probably in about 12 hours
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# ? Aug 28, 2018 13:58 |
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Soothing Vapors posted:Arc is ludicrously strong, with or without traps. I did selfcast arc and PP LW/Arc and both were just ridiculous. Arc's strength is its targeting - particularly after they fixed it to be able to path around corners outside the player's LOS. It's good at clearing and at finding stragglers and at putting full DPS on a boss if you can click vaguely near him. It's obviously not a boss-murdering skill like Molten Strike or other stuff that cheese hitboxes, but the speed and logic of its attack is just so efficient.
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# ? Aug 28, 2018 14:12 |
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the 15% more multiplier for each remaining chain is probably what needs to be addressed more than anything, this was what was making arc so powerful in any delivery method on a 4L nerfing anything else would destroy the skill imo it wouldn't feel as good to play anymore yum fucked around with this message at 14:54 on Aug 28, 2018 |
# ? Aug 28, 2018 14:49 |
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Being able to just right click anywhere on the loving screen to murder everything on it and a screen away is what I love most about arc, yeah.
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# ? Aug 28, 2018 14:54 |
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It's a good idea to local save your builds for when the passive tree changes and we get free respecs again, right?Penitent posted:Just started playing again after years and years. Now? You're starting NOW? Also the passive tree is changing so...
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# ? Aug 28, 2018 15:01 |
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Filthy Monkey posted:My second character last league was a poet's pen inpulsa arc/bl elementalist as well. It tore up maps and incursions like nobody's business. Yeah this was my last played build of the league and it was amazing, I liked it even more than arc traps and would start with it this league if it wasn't pretty expensive.
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# ? Aug 28, 2018 15:17 |
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I decided early on I'd play the new poo poo, i.e. make a Dominating Blow Guardian. With the new changes, I'm now super pumped. I can't wait to see the new tree.
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# ? Aug 28, 2018 15:32 |
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Penitent posted:Just started playing again after years and years. To follow up on Ak Gara's incredulousness, a new League (with new Delve gameplay) is starting in 3 days 5 hours from this post. Most people will be playing that mode, so feel free to mess around in standard or whatever for a bit, but if you want to play the New Hotness, you'll be starting from scratch in 3 days with the rest of us.
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# ? Aug 28, 2018 15:40 |
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I've tried combining the best of my top 2 chars, Flicker Strike and Molten Strike - Poison. It has to go all over the tree and it ends up being poo poo at all 3. One problem is the weapons Flicker Strike uses are "sort by: damage per strike" and Molten Strike uses "sort by: damage per second" which doesn't work for Flicker Strike as it NEEDS 1 hit - 1 kill for frenzy generation.
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# ? Aug 28, 2018 15:41 |
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Dahbadu posted:I decided early on I'd play the new poo poo, i.e. make a Dominating Blow Guardian. With the new changes, I'm now super pumped. I can't wait to see the new tree. Same, except poison spore pathfinder
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# ? Aug 28, 2018 15:42 |
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Ghostlight posted:
siiiigh I was planning a selfcast chaos (Blight/ED/Contagion) witch for Delve but hey at least that means one more tree path I can avoid. Maybe squeeze in the new Herald if I can find the sockets anywhere. Dallan Invictus fucked around with this message at 15:49 on Aug 28, 2018 |
# ? Aug 28, 2018 15:45 |
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Dahbadu posted:I decided early on I'd play the new poo poo, i.e. make a Dominating Blow Guardian. With the new changes, I'm now super pumped. I can't wait to see the new tree. Same. I like minions and I wanted to play a melee guy this league. It sucks cause I think a lot of people will do it and the uniques are going to be expensive
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# ? Aug 28, 2018 15:50 |
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Arc totems requires a four link. Which is a pretty cheap barrier to entry. Although I saw somewhere someone best Uber elder with a pseudo five link arc trap. In SSF euphronius fucked around with this message at 15:56 on Aug 28, 2018 |
# ? Aug 28, 2018 15:54 |
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Two races in a row I hit 85, and two races in a row I got nothing. Garbage game.
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# ? Aug 28, 2018 16:02 |
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I'm planning on running mostly new build ideas this league at least. The new chaos rain of arrows and/or caustic arrow, some form of skeleton minion build, etc. I want to do flicker strike but I want to see if there's any new frenzy charge gimmicks before I narrow it down.
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# ? Aug 28, 2018 16:05 |
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I got the automaton portal from the free apocalypse chest thing for reaching 35
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# ? Aug 28, 2018 16:07 |
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The new bringer of pain looks interesting to me. I didn’t use the new double strike yet Especially since war cries can be instant now
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# ? Aug 28, 2018 16:12 |
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euphronius posted:The new bringer of pain looks interesting to me. I didn’t use the new double strike yet
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# ? Aug 28, 2018 16:18 |
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Yeah and if you are constantly war crying you get intimidate too
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# ? Aug 28, 2018 16:19 |
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I was thinking about going Grandpa, too...
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# ? Aug 28, 2018 16:20 |
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Oh it’s fake and I’m dumb I guess I’m bad at the Internet.
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# ? Aug 28, 2018 16:27 |
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Ak Gara posted:It's a good idea to local save your builds for when the passive tree changes and we get free respecs again, right? What's a good way to do this, even? I'm using Path of Building but presumably it will update for the new passive tree and struggle to load older builds I have saved, right?
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# ? Aug 28, 2018 16:39 |
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The official website tree will still load old codes but just break on any changed paths iirc Also playing a character that has a respec (standard) is already a mistake
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# ? Aug 28, 2018 17:07 |
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dyzzy posted:Also playing a character that has a respec (standard) is already a mistake Even if I believed this (I wouldn't go that far but there's no point starting a fight over it), I might want to borrow parts of a tree build for a future league and it would be nice to be able to consult them, so this dyzzy posted:The official website tree will still load old codes but just break on any changed paths iirc is good news, thanks.
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# ? Aug 28, 2018 17:27 |
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Sometimes I sling poo poo for the sake of it, all that matters is that it's fun for you
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# ? Aug 28, 2018 18:14 |
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Also, Path of Building has a setting for older trees (2.6 vs. 3.3 i believe) so you can load old characters and see what they looked like.
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# ? Aug 28, 2018 18:35 |
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Still surprised that ele hit wasn't mentioned in the manifesto yesterday. I can see Impulsa's taking a another slight nerf besides the secondary damage, but seeing how they haven't done anything to poet's pen since it came out I don't know. Not sure what to do in delve, but I'm thinking skeletons and specters again. Better witch pathing sounds good.
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# ? Aug 28, 2018 18:51 |
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I hope they never touch my perfect pen
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# ? Aug 28, 2018 18:52 |
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# ? May 28, 2024 12:52 |
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Dallan Invictus posted:I get their reasoning here but the thing with balancing via strategic tedium is that this is still a video game. Picking up scrolls and abundant minor currency items is miserable (thus the calls for autopickup) in addition to being inefficient, and that means that not many "other people" will do it as an actual means to get somewhere economically for very long. They'll either learn quickly that it isn't worth their time, or just quit playing because gently caress that, they already have a job. I just want to add that this is basically my opinion on the situation. Also, having to pick up all that minor currency must get tedious for many SSF players -- right?
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# ? Aug 28, 2018 19:01 |