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sub supau
Aug 28, 2007

OmanyteJackson posted:

Shove it up your rear end. The last 3 pages of the thread have been treating these dumb tweets as if they have consequences. TWITTER DOESN'T MATTER.
If you want to act like you're responding to what people are actually saying it would help if you read it first.

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Mr. Lobe
Feb 23, 2007

... Dry bones...


OmanyteJackson posted:

What your asking for isn't principles, it's a curated public persona. You wan't AOC to be a symbol of the left but she's just one person navigating the hell that is american politics. Sanders does the same thing, he speaks out when he wants to influence a policy, all other times he's just as :decorum: as everyone else.

I don't think you understand the problem I have. the problem I have is that I don't believe she is going to make opposition to US imperialism a political priority in a either a legislative or rhetorical sense. it's not just a tweet, it's also her wavering on Israel--she isn't willing to speak out plainly about the US's malfeasance abroad. it suggests either she doesn't have a coherent analysis of US imperialism, or else she is not willing to use her platform to speak out on against it with the seriousness it deserves because of other, more calculated political priorities. even if you think in her heart of hearts she really has a good analysis and has decided it is most politically expedient to not share it with the rest of the world right now (while also valorizing a man like McCain), do you really think opposing the military industrial complex is something you can do while talking out of both sides of your mouth?

I don't think wars are ended with backroom dealings, personally. in fact, I think we can point to Obama specifically about the failure of staking hopes on that specific strategy.

if we are seriously going to take on the military industrial complex, then we need political representatives who are able to articulate something that is currently absent in the national political stage of the US: we need people who can speak out consistently and with a principled and clear analysis about how evil and counterproductive US foreign policy is. we need people who can spread that message, and build a serious anti-war movement. we don't have that now, not even in Sanders. we don't have someone who says things like Sawant did, or like Jeremy Corbyn has in the UK since the beginning of the Iraq war.

it would have been nice if AOC could have been the first of those voices to champion a socialist analysis of anti-imperialism in our contemporary political arena, but I think we can extrapolate from what we are seeing here and say no, that's probably not the case.

Mr. Lobe fucked around with this message at 09:49 on Aug 27, 2018

DoubleDonut
Oct 22, 2010


Fallen Rib
more people should poo poo on mccain on twitter because the extremely upset replies they get from people who think The West Wing was real are hilarious

Honky Mao
Dec 26, 2012

I shed one tear of cum every time a war hawk farts their last fart

Exodus1984
Feb 18, 2005

Eastern Europe Episode IV: A New Hope. I love President Volodymyr Zelenskyy. I understand and appreciate the precarious position the Ukrainians are navigating. I wish I could set up a 401(UA) fund from my paycheck to directly contribute my earnings to Ukraine's success.

Mr. Lobe posted:

AOC didn’t ask that McCain was brought back to life to be killed by firing squad.

Let’s wait for her to be elected to Congress before we get whipped in to a frenzy. Everything she does is viewed under a different prism than how you’d like. Just chill.

OmanyteJackson
Mar 18, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo

Mr. Lobe posted:

I don't think you understand the problem I have. the problem I have is that I don't believe she is going to make opposition to US imperialism a political priority in a either a legislative or rhetorical sense. it's not just a tweet, it's also her wavering on Israel--she isn't willing to speak out plainly about the US's malfeasance abroad. it suggests either she doesn't have a coherent analysis of US imperialism, or else she is not willing to use her platform to speak out on against it with the seriousness it deserves because of other, more calculated political priorities. even if you think in her heart of hearts she really has a good analysis and has decided it is most politically expedient to not share it with the rest of the world right now (while also valorizing a man like McCain), do you really think opposing the military industrial complex is something you can do while talking out of both sides of your mouth?

I don't think wars are ended with backroom dealings, personally. in fact, I think we can point to Obama specifically about the failure of staking hopes on that specific strategy.

if we are seriously going to take on the military industrial complex, then we need political representatives who are able to articulate something that is currently absent in the national political stage of the US: we need people who can speak out consistently and with a principled and clear analysis about how evil and counterproductive US foreign policy is. we need people who can spread that message, and build a serious anti-war movement. we don't have that now, not even in Sanders. we don't have someone who says things like Sawant did, or like Jeremy Corbyn has in the UK since the beginning of the Iraq war.

it would have been nice if AOC could have been the first of those voices to champion a socialist analysis of anti-imperialism in our contemporary political arena, but I think we can extrapolate from what we are seeing here and say no, that's probably not the case.

2 things,

first 90% of people don't care about American foreign policy, we on this forum do, but for most people there material concerns are the things they care about. AOC won on a domestic policy platform, not on a vision for a post imperial America

second, if you want to have an authoritative critique on the US foreign policy you need access to knowledge that only the government has access to. If she says that our current military policies are bad, an endless stream of analysts and current and former military personnel will still holes in those arguments. they have the advantage of playing on fear, special knowledge, and authority.

the best play is to just attack the military on domestic spending and the lack of return. maybe she can get an ex-troop on staff but that's the best case. unlike the UK our military is huge and it will take more than a politician with a nack for posting to change it.

If that meaningless platitude means 20 less write ups that A PC hates America during her primary, or maybe enough good will to be put into a Medicare 4 all commity than whatever.

Lessail
Apr 1, 2011

:cry::cry:
tell me how vgk aren't playing like shit again
:cry::cry:
p.s. help my grapes are so sour!
What AOC should have done instead of praise McCain is just not praise him. No need to insult him or tell the truth. Just send out a condolences to his family and friends and leave it at that.

KICK BAMA KICK
Mar 2, 2009

this is good Chapo

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

Lessail posted:

What AOC should have done instead of praise McCain is just not praise him. No need to insult him or tell the truth. Just send out a condolences to his family and friends and leave it at that.

no, this

https://twitter.com/carterforva/status/1034150467155238913

this is praxis

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band
"Four of the biggest loving nerds I've ever met in my life" --F. Biederman, on his co-hosts. :newlol:

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

"I have my gaming laptop"

:chloe:

bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m
Apr 16, 2017

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The reviews are in: the book is good enough to make people mad

https://twitter.com/CHAPOTRAPHOUSE/status/1034425687162138624?s=19

(I didn't really like the book tbh)

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m posted:

The reviews are in: the book is good enough to make people mad

https://twitter.com/CHAPOTRAPHOUSE/status/1034425687162138624?s=19

(I didn't really like the book tbh)

Goddamn, you can feel the indignation coming off that review

bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m
Apr 16, 2017

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Guy Goodbody posted:

Goddamn, you can feel the indignation coming off that review

Bruh

https://twitter.com/tdtbaa/status/1034423721493192704?s=19

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

that guy rules

cat doter
Jul 27, 2006



gonna need more cheese...australia has a lot of crackers
usually I find "lol u mad" comebacks kinda tiresome since I find if you're not getting mad about poo poo that matters you're probably a garbage human

but that dude?

he mad

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


that's the most not-mad thing i've read outside of trump's twitter feed.

https://twitter.com/dwdavison9318/status/1034435551024345088

An Apple A Gay
Oct 21, 2008

i'm getting mad rn

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


noah's having a meltdown now lmao

bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m
Apr 16, 2017

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Groovelord Neato posted:

noah's having a meltdown now lmao

Post the meltdown

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。

bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m posted:

Post the meltdown

an exemplary illustration of a cavillous hammering of a tenon that has persisted to be a thistle in the discourse's solar plexus

Breadallelogram
Oct 9, 2012


The word search in the book is really good.

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*
I am listening to the audiobook and it seems good to me. I wonder if I would like it we much in text.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


https://twitter.com/thom_not_tom/status/1034468993845940224

An Apple A Gay
Oct 21, 2008

my man big v jumping in to explain 'you collect the tickets you use the tokens to play the game '

Chexoid
Nov 5, 2009

Now that I have this dating robot I can take it easy.
Will's instagram story is amazing right now. Him and Matt are watching Virgil play Fortnite with a squad of what sounds like 10 year olds.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


https://twitter.com/willmenaker/status/1034913515218391046

Pomplamoose
Jun 28, 2008

An Apple A Gay posted:

my man big v jumping in to explain 'you collect the tickets you use the tokens to play the game '

That ruled

bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m
Apr 16, 2017

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We did it, I'm going to return my book to the store and get a full refund now.

coathat
May 21, 2007


The Felix soy face is the worst thing I’ve ever seen

cat doter
Jul 27, 2006



gonna need more cheese...australia has a lot of crackers
when did an expression of joy in a photo become known as soy face

did some shitheads on 4chan get upset that not everyone is as miserable as them

I Before E
Jul 2, 2012

cat doter posted:

when did an expression of joy in a photo become known as soy face

did some shitheads on 4chan get upset that not everyone is as miserable as them

Yeah, 4chan weirdos took "really annoying people really like doing that thing where they look like they're yelling at the camera in posed photos because they can't project excitement any other way" and turned it into "because of animal psychology, this is beta men showing alphas that they're okay with being cucked by Islam"

Pharmaskittle
Dec 17, 2007

arf arf put the money in the fuckin bag

I Before E posted:

Yeah, 4chan weirdos took "really annoying people really like doing that thing where they look like they're yelling at the camera in posed photos because they can't project excitement any other way" and turned it into "because of animal psychology, this is beta men showing alphas that they're okay with being cucked by Islam"

Lmao is it really about people fake yelling in photos? I thought it was basically them saying people have gay-face, I never put it together

40-Degree Day
Sep 24, 2012


4chan weirdos noticed a dumb trend of dummies getting fake excited for their nintendo switches and star wars movies and blamed it on soy beans. can't make this poo poo up

cohsae
Jun 19, 2015

40-Degree Day posted:

4chan weirdos noticed a dumb trend of dummies getting fake excited for their nintendo switches and star wars movies and blamed it on soy beans. can't make this poo poo up

Yeah if there's one thing 4chan weirdos would NEVER do, it's get worked up by Star Wars and video games lol

bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m
Apr 16, 2017

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https://twitter.com/formermullet/status/1034475529691426816

lol

Apoplexy
Mar 9, 2003

by Shine
Stav episode is out on Patreon! It's gooooooood

TomViolence
Feb 19, 2013

PLEASE ASK ABOUT MY 80,000 WORD WALLACE AND GROMIT SLASH FICTION. PLEASE.

the hot couch dvd menu thing is extremely relatable

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010
One of my roommates unironically shared the Politico review

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Stato-Masochist
Aug 22, 2010

the air is fresh, there's plenty of parking, plenty of space to walk around

Henchman of Santa posted:

One of my roommates unironically shared the Politico review

:sever:

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