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GoGoGadgetChris
Mar 18, 2010

i powder a
granite monument
in a soundless flash

showering the grass
with molten drops of
its gold inlay

sending smoking
chips of stone
skipping into the fog
Trials is on indefinite suspension. There's a giant expansion out one week from today that changes everything. Game dead for 7 days then very very popular again.

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Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus
The next 7 days are going to be lit as gently caress because a bunch of the changes from foreskin happen today, like weapon slot rebalancing, shoulder charges going to 1hko, and uh, other stuff I think?

AAB
Nov 5, 2010

How about thos thick, meaty patch notes, eh???? https://www.bungie.net/en/News/Article/47127

Pozload Escobar
Aug 21, 2016

by Reene
Trials is gone my dog

AAB
Nov 5, 2010



:fap:

wyoak
Feb 14, 2005

a glass case of emotion

Fallen Rib
That wormhusk change seems like a straight pvp buff which feels unnecessary but we’ll see I guess

ICR
Dec 31, 2008

New pvp map the incontinence gonna own.

I am 6 to mids

Ducking get lit Bros and girl

https://www.bungie.net/pubassets/pkgs/114/114535/forsaken_post_launch_infographic.jpg

Posting again because it’s amazing. Life rules.

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

HEAVYARMS

quote:

Peacekeepers
Increased movement speed when wielding an SMG

:yeshaha:

Snuffman
May 21, 2004

"Heavy Machine guns return"

Yesssssssss. :fap:

A 50S RAYGUN
Aug 22, 2011
if there are not pvp titles i will cry

Sixto Lezcano
Jul 11, 2007



“Increased in air accuracy” yessss

E:v loving YES O MAN

Marksman’s Dodge is now considered a reload; it can interact with Kill Clip, Rat King, etc.

GET IN

Sixto Lezcano fucked around with this message at 19:30 on Aug 28, 2018

Paracausal
Sep 5, 2011

Oh yeah, baby. Frame your suffering as a masterpiece. Only one problem - no one's watching. It's boring, buddy, boring as death.

Snuffman posted:

"Heavy Machine guns return"

Yesssssssss. :fap:

The single greatest coming change. Holy gently caress yes.

wyoak
Feb 14, 2005

a glass case of emotion

Fallen Rib

Sixto Lezcano posted:

Marksman’s Dodge is now considered a reload; it can interact with Kill Clip, Rat King, etc.

GET IN
Wormhusk even more mandatory now

Paracausal
Sep 5, 2011

Oh yeah, baby. Frame your suffering as a masterpiece. Only one problem - no one's watching. It's boring, buddy, boring as death.
According to loudmouth dipshit streamers forsaken gear is dropping?

Apprentice Dick
Dec 1, 2009

Quantum Shart posted:

The single greatest coming change. Holy gently caress yes.

I too am preparing for the return of the Thunderlord and Jolder's

1stGear
Jan 16, 2010

Here's to the new us.

Quantum Shart posted:

According to loudmouth dipshit streamers forsaken gear is dropping?

Apparently the Flashpoint engram is dropping Forsaken gear. Some goons in Discord have confirmed it.

ICR
Dec 31, 2008

For those who are scared to click the Mr Bungie link to patch notes (and because I’ll need these for the new OP), here are the notes for viewing here:

quote:

DESTINY 2 UPDATE 2.0
3h - Destiny Dev Team
Service Announcements:
Destiny 2 Update 2.0 will bring many changes to the Destiny 2 experience in preparation for Forsaken. Some features may not be fully operational until September 4.
This is the final week of Season 3. Season 4, “Season of the Outlaw,” begins on September 4.

Player Character
General
Subclass screen updated in preparation for Forsaken

Weapons and Armor
Exotic Armor

Hunter
Orpheus Rig
No longer grants Super energy on bloom and damage sharing
Raised base Super amount that you receive from tethers to create a more consistent and less exponential experience
Super energy given is scaled up when more powerful enemies are tethered
When used with Moebius Quiver, grants additional tether shots
Does not grant ability energy on tethering targets
Celestial Nighthawk
Now grants 33% of your Super energy back if the target is killed by the shot
Wormhusk Crown
No longer starts regeneration of health and shields
Instead grants a larger health and shield bump at the beginning of dodge instead of at the end
Knucklehead Radar
Enhanced radar resolution while crouching
Lucky Pants
Extended duration of Illegally Modded Holster
Shinobu's Vow
Skip grenade returns some energy when it damages an enemy

Warlock
The Stag
Rift dropped from death now has standard rift duration
Eye of Another World
Ability recharge bonus increased
Nezarac's Sin
Increased duration of Abyssal Extractors
Rapid kills extend the duration up to 20 seconds
Skull of Dire Ahamkara
Increased Super energy gained from Nova Bomb kills
Killing higher-ranked enemies now rewards more Super energy
Transversive Steps
Enhanced mobility
After sprinting for a short time, your currently equipped weapon is automatically reloaded
Winter’s Guile
Tuned damage and duration per stack to be more consistent

Titan
Mk. 44 Stand Asides
Overshield granted by sprinting appears faster
Hallowfire Heart
Base cooldown reduction when Super is uncharged in addition to CDR when charged
Helm of Saint-14
Grants allies an overshield for a short duration when passing through Ward of Dawn
Mask of the Quiet One
Increased energy gain from incoming damage
While critically wounded, health is granted from kills
Crest of Alpha Lupi
Healing pulse is more effective
Peacekeepers
Increased movement speed when wielding an SMG
Wormgod’s Caress
Tuned damage and duration per stack to be more consistent


Weapons
Developer Insight: With Forsaken, we've made a major change to the systems—the freedom to slot powerful weapons in either the Kinetic slot or Energy slot. This fundamental change necessitated a fresh look at a player’s damage output in both PvE and PvP.

Primary ammo weapons and Special ammo weapons may exist in either the Kinetic or Energy slot.
Heavy ammo weapons can exist only in the Power slot.
Ammo type and damage type are now fixed attributes of a specific weapon.
Ammo distribution models updated entirely to support weapon slot changes.
Energy weapons no longer deal bonus damage to active enemy Supers.

Ammo Economy
Primary Ammo Weapons
Hand Cannons
Scout Rifles
Auto Rifles
Pulse Rifles
Sidearms
Submachine Guns
Special Ammo Weapons
Fusion Rifles
Shotguns
Sniper Rifles
Trace Rifles
Single Shot Grenade Launchers
Heavy Ammo Weapons
Drum-Loaded Grenade Launchers
Rocket launchers
Linear Fusion Rifles
Swords

The following Year 1 weapons have moved to the Kinetic slot
Baligant
Shepherd's Watch
Hawthorne's Field-Forged Shotgun
Alone as a God
Perfect Paradox
The Frigid Jackal
Silicon Neuroma

The following Year 1 weapons are now locked to Solar damage
IKELOS_SR_v1.0.1
IKELOS_SG_V1.0.1

The following Exotic weapons did not change slot and still use Heavy ammo
Tractor Cannon
The Legend of Acrius
D.A.R.C.I.
Whisper of the Worm

Developer Insight: The tuning of Destiny weapons and abilities is inexorably tied to the systems that we build upon. Ultimately our goal is to still provide gameplay challenge despite a global increase in player damage output due to the new systems introduced. To properly support the higher uptime of Shotguns, Snipers, and Fusions, the following changes were made to all weapons in the game.

Primary Ammo Weapons
Increased precision damage output of Primary ammo weapons
Increased in-air accuracy
Decreased body shot damage in PvE
Decreased Auto Rifle damage required to stagger enemies to compensate for reduced body damage

Special Ammo Weapons
Reduced damage output of Special ammo weapons
Increased damage of Trace Rifles
Trace Rifles now disintegrate defeated enemies

Heavy Ammo Weapons
Grenade Launchers:
Increased damage and blast radius
Linear Fusion Rifle
Increased damage
Reduced time to charge and fire
Reduced aim assist
Swords
Increased ammo
Increased damage mitigation when guarding

Exotics
Sleeper Simulant
Fixed issue where charge time was not displayed properly on weapon
Magazine size increased
Reduced base damage
Borealis
Bonus damage after breaking a shield increased on precision hit
Still grants bonus damage on body shots
Prometheus Lens
No longer generates Special ammo on kill
Tractor Cannon
Repulsor Force's Weaken effect now also increases non void damage by 33%, but no longer stacks with other weaken effects. (Shadowshot,Hammer Strike, etc).

Perks
Explosive Payload
Reduced bonus damage output
Ambitious Assassin
Increased time allotted between kills to earn bonus ammunition
Backup Plan
Decreased amount of time weapon must be stowed for perk to become available
Box Breathing
Reduced time required for perk to activate
Reduced precision bonus
Perk now resets after firing
High-Impact Reserves
Damage bonus granted earlier in magazine
Grave Robber
Now reloads your entire magazine
Primary ammo is granted directly to magazine
Heavy and Special ammo is transferred from reserves to magazine
Field Prep
Increased inventory reserves
Increased stow, ready, and reload speed when crouched
Auto-Loading Holster
Reduced time required for perk to activate when weapon is stowed.
Opening Shot
Increased falloff range (weapon does more damage at longer ranges)
Triple Tap
Grants ammo directly to the magazine; no longer pulls from reserves.

Mods
Starting with 2.0.0.1 (9/4/2018), Year 1 mods can no longer be inserted into gear or weapons. You will no longer be able to insert any mods into Year 1 gear or change the elemental damage type come next week.

Misc
Fixed an issue where Rocket Launcher stability stat was not working as intended
Fixed an issue where the Impact Casing perk on Grenade Launchers did not function
Swords now have the ability to accept shaders

Abilities

General

Visual layout of perks has changed in subclass paths
Increased base Guardian melee damage
It now takes two melee hits to defeat an enemy Guardian in PvP
Increased the base damage of Seismic Strike, Hammer Strike, and Shield Bash
Adjusted active Super bonus damage resistance values
Added a timer to the status effect for Healing Rift, Empowering Rift, and Rally Barricade to communicate the time remaining before they expire

Grenades
Axion Bolt
Increased base damage
Increased the amount of time it takes for the tracking strength to lower
Flashbang
Increased base damage
Incendiary Grenade
Increased base damage
Storm Grenade
Increased base damage
Scatter Grenade
Re-tuned range and falloff ranges for the detonations for more reliable damage
Magnetic, Fusion, and Flux Grenade
Increased base damage
Damage is now the same whether a target has been stuck or simply walked over grenade when detonating
Magnetic Grenade now detonates a second time only if it's attached to a target
The second detonation no longer only occurs on the grenade itself and will now be applied to each individual target hit by the initial detonation
Skip Grenade
Increased impact damage of each Skip Drone impact for a higher total potential damage
Voidwall
Increased the damage of initial Void Wall wave

Hunter
General
Marksman’s Dodge is now considered a reload; it can interact with Kill Clip, Rat King, etc.
Gunslinger
Practice Makes Perfect perk now grants Super energy on throwing knife kills
Increased the duration of all versions of Golden Gun
Nightstalker
Once activated, the Shadowshot tether will find enemy targets more reliably within its search radius

Titan
General
Rally Barricade no longer requires players to take cover to reload—it now feeds ammo to your magazine over time
Striker
With Terminal Velocity enabled, the opening Fists of Havoc slam no longer leaves a lingering damage area
Lowered the health threshold for triggering Knockout so that it triggers sooner, to keep up with the PvP lethality changes
Increased the lunge range of the Fists of Havoc melee attack
Sunbreaker
Sol Invictus will now trigger on burn kills
Sentinel
Increased Ward of Dawn health significantly
Increased the amount of health provided by the Ward of Dawn overshield
Sentinel Shield Super
Increased Shield Throw projectile speed
Shield Throw no longer loses damage after bouncing or ricocheting off targets
Faster attack animations for grounded melee attacks
Increased Sentinel Super damage in PvE

Warlock
General
Increased Healing Rift effectiveness
Empowering Rift now increases precision damage (previously, bonus damage was capped at the weapon’s precision damage in PvP)
Stormcaller
Increased the PvP damage of Stormtrance
Increased Arc Soul’s projectile speed
Dawnblade
Increased Dawnblade projectile speed and base tracking strength
Voidwalker
Significantly reduced the length of time that Blink disables your radar and HUD
Chaos Accelerant no longer costs Super energy to use
Increased the damage bonus granted by Chaos Accelerant for each Voidwalker grenade

PvE
Daily Heroic Story Playlist
Year 1 meditations have been retired and replaced with a Heroic Story playlist
These will share modifiers with Heroic adventures and strikes
Forsaken campaign missions will be featured at 500 Power, while Year 1 campaign missions will be featured at 200 Power

Destinations
Wanted escapees from the Prison of Elders now roam the open world
They will not drop rewards until September 4, 2018
Increased the difficulty of Lost Sectors
Example: EDZ Lost Sectors are now 240 Power

Adventures
Replayable adventures have been removed from destination vendors
Heroic adventures have been added to all destinations
Destinations without Heroic adventures before Forsaken will have them available during their Flashpoint weeks
A random Heroic adventure will be available each day
Mercury and Mars Heroic adventures are unchanged
Heroic adventures will share similar modifiers with daily Heroics and strikes

Strikes
Vanguard Strikes
Heroic Strike playlists have been retired for all players and replaced with a single content-appropriate playlist:
Legacy
Strikes playlist matches the legacy playlist that is currently available in Year 1
Recommended Power 200
Will have modifiers
Forsaken
Strike playlist has three difficulties to select from:
Recommended Power 300 (not available when your level is 40 Power higher)
Recommended Power 400 (not available when your level is 40 Power higher)
Recommended Power 500 (always available)
Will have modifiers
Nightfall
Retired Prestige difficulty
Increased base difficulty for Nightfall activities
Players can choose one of three Nightfall strikes each week
Players may select only the strikes for which they own the appropriate expansions
Legacy players will still be able to enable modifiers via the Challenge Card, but scoring will be disabled in the 270 Power Nightfall

General
Escapees from the Prison of Elders now appear in strikes, Lost Sectors, and public areas

Crucible
General
New ammo model for maps to accommodate weapon slots

Items & Economy
General
Collections (emblems and Exotics) that are found in the vault will be unavailable during the week of August 28–September 4, but they will return with 2.0.0.1 in the upcoming Collections tab
Exotics will now always drop at or above your Guardian’s Power level
Year 1 challenges will no longer grant destination materials or tokens
Destination materials can be earned via bounties, available from their respective destination vendors
Anything that previously granted destination tokens or Rare materials will grant Common destination materials moving forward
Destination tokens and Rare destination materials are no longer granted, but they can still be redeemed for reputation if you have them in your inventory

Xûr
His will is not his own
No longer displays a vendor icon on destination maps
No longer tied to Flashpoints
He has a clear purpose but cannot explain it—forgive him
Fated Engrams grant only pre-Forsaken Exotics

Tower
Increased vault size to 500 slots
Players can now dismantle shaders in stacks of five in Master Rahool’s vendor screen

Cayde-6
Cayde-6 has left the Tower to investigate disturbances in the Reef
Removed Treasure Maps and Scout Reports

Technical
Localization
Added Korean language support to consoles

User Interface
Updated title screen to reflect Forsaken launch

Director
The Director screen has been updated to reconfigure the way challenges, milestones, Flashpoints, and quests are presented:
Challenges
The Year 1 challenge system has been removed and converted into bounties, which will be available through their respective destination and activity vendors on September 4
Bounties are displayed in the Pursuits bucket of the inventory screen
In Year 2 (Forsaken), “challenges” now refer to the bonuses that grant rewards on a daily or weekly basis
These can be seen in the Director via new indicators on a playlist or destination when available
Milestones
The milestone tray will now be limited to showing specific quests and quest steps
One-time completion objectives, such as campaign missions, subclass missions, and strikes introductions will remain as milestones
Players who do not have any active milestones will not see a milestones blade being displayed
Many Year 1 milestones have been converted into challenges
These challenges will continue to grant powerful rewards
Weekly and daily milestones
Previous weekly and daily milestones, such as strike completion and Crucible, will now appear as weekly or daily challenges on their associated playlists
Flashpoints
The Flashpoint milestone will now appear as a challenge visible on its respective destination vendor
Flashpoint progress has been expanded to include Lost Sectors and Heroic adventures
Exotic quests
Exotic quests are now displayed in the Inventory tab under the Pursuits bucket
They can be recovered at the quests’ associated vendor if abandoned
Exotic quests now correctly use Exotic coloring in the UI
Icons for Exotic quests are now appropriately represented with Exotic rarity
World quests
World quests are now displayed in the Inventory tab under the Pursuits bucket
Updated the Director with a new theme and layout to better represent destinations for Year 2
Presell is in the Reef location
The “Leviathan” raid and raid lairs have been moved to Nessus

Character Screen
Weapon slots
Weapon tooltips now display ammo types
White ammo icon – “Primary”
Green ammo icon – “Special”
Purple ammo icon – “Heavy”
The HUD will show a color based on the associated ammo type next to each weapon on the weapon tray
Subclass screen
The path name is now being displayed along the bottom of the character art
Collections
Collections are not available until September 4
Triumphs
Triumphs are not available until September 4
Gear tooltips
Perks are displayed by name only on tooltips for Ghost Shells, weapons, and armor
Exotic perks will display a short description

Fantastic Foreskin
Jan 6, 2013

A golden helix streaked skyward from the Helvault. A thunderous explosion shattered the silver monolith and Avacyn emerged, free from her prison at last.

If I'm still in HotDog y'all can kick me out. While the changes look sweet I don't have enough time to devote all of my gaming time to destiny.

Snuffman
May 21, 2004

Pretty great update so far.

There's a little oddness here and there (bounties still asking for challenges, but challenges aren't a thing anymore), I was worried that I'd run out of primary ammo running both primary ammo-weapons but ammo hasn't been a problem at all.

Infusions seem expensive at first, but planet resources fall like rain. Pays to have a resource detector ghost, too. The resource requirement seems mostly just a reason to actually visit the old planets. Has bungie said if Year 2 infusions are cheaper as a way to encourage people to use year 2 guns?

The one piece of Forsaken armor I got from the flashpoint is vastly more powerful in terms of perks it provides (also very ugly :(), so I can see myself migrating to year 2 armor pretty quick.

Snuffman fucked around with this message at 22:45 on Aug 28, 2018

ICR
Dec 31, 2008

ItBreathes posted:

If I'm still in HotDog y'all can kick me out. While the changes look sweet I don't have enough time to devote all of my gaming time to destiny.

You’ll be missed friend. No problem!

A 50S RAYGUN
Aug 22, 2011
got a forsaken helmet that has increased pulse rifle handling, accuracy, and target acquisition

drat

Poops Mcgoots
Jul 12, 2010

A 50S RAYGUN posted:

got a forsaken helmet that has increased pulse rifle handling, accuracy, and target acquisition

drat

Congrats on your future crucible wins.

Sultan Tarquin
Jul 29, 2007

and what kind of world would it be? HUH?!
Can confirm. Got a forsaken chest piece from the mars flashpoint. Unflinching pulse/shotgun & scout rifle reserves/special ammo finder

e: Welp looks like I can't do this part of the sleeper stimulant quest because they took out heroic strikes till next week.

Sultan Tarquin fucked around with this message at 23:08 on Aug 28, 2018

the good fax machine
Feb 26, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
oh my god armor perks are back gently caress yes

A 50S RAYGUN
Aug 22, 2011
unflinching sniper will be big

Waffle House
Oct 27, 2004

You follow the path
fitting into an infinite pattern.

Yours to manipulate, to destroy and rebuild.

Now, in the quantum moment
before the closure
when all become one.

One moment left.
One point of space and time.

I know who you are.

You are Destiny.



:flashfap:

Hey guess what I have money to set aside for this weekend finally

A 50S RAYGUN
Aug 22, 2011
also, not sure if it's some kind of placeholder, but my masterwork option for my piece had increased solar resistance. kinda be kinda lame if you can't reroll mainstat on armor anymore

Elysiume
Aug 13, 2009

Alone, she fights.
Time to dust everything in the vault, huh. At least I can hide my shame over messing up the dates and failing to get the full set of arc glow on the SoH armor.

ICR
Dec 31, 2008

These random rolls are what keeps the grind alive.

This is incredible.

Snuffman
May 21, 2004

Are the "new" (old PS4 exclusive) strikes and Crucible maps in the game yet? I notice we're still operating of a playlist for strikes and I haven't seen one yet.

Stormgale
Feb 27, 2010

Exotics are now dropping with random rolls so.

Enjoy that.

Fathis Munk
Feb 23, 2013

??? ?

Snuffman posted:

Are the "new" (old PS4 exclusive) strikes and Crucible maps in the game yet? I notice we're still operating of a playlist for strikes and I haven't seen one yet.

Those come later. I think at least, forsaken gear is also not supposed to drop right now :v:

Waffle House
Oct 27, 2004

You follow the path
fitting into an infinite pattern.

Yours to manipulate, to destroy and rebuild.

Now, in the quantum moment
before the closure
when all become one.

One moment left.
One point of space and time.

I know who you are.

You are Destiny.


Stormgale posted:

Exotics are now dropping with random rolls so.

Enjoy that.

:popeye:

What...what is this strange feeling I’m experiencing...? Is it...is this game getting good...?

Stormgale
Feb 27, 2010

Also they made Orpheus rig do something with Moebius quiver, but just to clarify:

You on;y gain the bonus energy from tethers now with top tree Nightstaker (it used to be explosions/damage share did too) but upped the ammount, it's still pretty ok to get full resets (arguably easier with the stacking type you used on Argos)

Now for Moebius quiver it just gives you flat out 2-3 extra shots.

ponzicar
Mar 17, 2008
What sort of random rolls are we talking? Am I going to have to hold on to five different copies of a single gun and throw the stats into a spreadsheet to figure out which is the best?

Stormgale
Feb 27, 2010

ponzicar posted:

What sort of random rolls are we talking? Am I going to have to hold on to five different copies of a single gun and throw the stats into a spreadsheet to figure out which is the best?

Guns appear to roll with some random perks, depending on the gun (so if you really care about min max for PVP probably yes), I think some guns (like redrix) roll with a fixed core perk/perks and roll with some randoms

in the case of Exotic armor, the warlock gloves I saw were exotic perk(s) then random reload perk, random ammo Storage perk

SgtSteel91
Oct 21, 2010

I haven't beaten the main story yet, are Curse of Osiris and Warmind worth downloading?

Or should I just get Forsaken and jump into that after I finish the main stuff?

SgtSteel91 fucked around with this message at 00:35 on Aug 29, 2018

ICR
Dec 31, 2008

SgtSteel91 posted:

I haven't beaten the main story yet, are Curse of Osiris and Warmind worth downloading?

Or should I just get Forsaken and jump into that after I finish the main stuff?

Bad news friend. Curse of Assiris and Worm Mind are required to join play Foreskin.

Au Revoir Shosanna
Feb 17, 2011

i support this government and/or service
pvp looks good now?

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SgtSteel91
Oct 21, 2010

SUN GOD AVATAR posted:

Bad news friend. Curse of Assiris and Worm Mind are required to join play Foreskin.

Oh... well good thing those two are $10 each

edit:

Lol, I tried buying them but it says I already got the season 1 pass

Must have already gotten that when I first bought Destiny 2

SgtSteel91 fucked around with this message at 00:52 on Aug 29, 2018

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